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Hello, Yin&Yang, and welcome to the Harry Potter Wiki (HPW). Thank you for your edit to the Forum:The Physical Appearance of Spells page. I hope you enjoy it here and decide to stay.

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-- Seth Cooper (Talk) 12:12, 27 August 2009


Hey Yin & Yang,

Would you like me to make you a signature? If so, please tell me your favourite colours (1 or 2) and the image you would like, if you do want one. Quidditch LoverSnitch 2(My talk)(contribs) 05:48, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Hi Quidditch Lover. I wouldn't mind if you gave me something a little more appealing for a signature than what I have now. Go ahead and do your thing! Oh, and my favourite colour is blue but feel free to get inventive with the font style. Don't worry about an image too much though, I can do without one. Thanks.--Yin&Yang 06:17, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so what do you want to link to it? I have my talk and contributions page, but you can choose what you want. I wouldn't recommend linking more than two,though. Quidditch LoverSnitch 2(My talk)(contribs) 06:25, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
I've gone with blue, turquoise and deep blue for the colours, but if you'd like to go for the ravenclaw colours, I can always change them. I wasn't sure which font you'd prefer, so I tried three, but if you don't like them, I can try different ones. I just linked your talkpage for now, but I'll add anything you want me to.

Yin & YangTalk to me!

Yin & YangTalk to me!

Yin & YangTalk to me! Choose which one you like the best, and leave a message on my talk, please! Hope you like them! Quidditch LoverSnitch 2(My talk)(contribs) 06:48, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so I've created the page User:Yin&Yang/sig. Now, you need to go to your preferences page and put in {{SUBST:User:Yin&Yang/sig}} in the signature box. Make sure to check the Custom Signature box. Happy Editings! Quidditch LoverSnitch 2(My talk)(contribs) 20:21, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Uhh, I think something went wrong with my signiture Quidditch Lover. For some reason it gives me this:--{{SUBST:User:Yin&Yang/sig}} 00:09, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Have you checked the Custom signature box? There should be a checkmark. And could you please reply on my talk page? Thanks. QuidditchLoverSnitch 2(My talk)(contribs) 02:26, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
Hmm...This is a very interesting problem.. but I believe that any of the admins would be able to give you more information on the problem than me. I'm not much of an expert at this... I can make the signatures, sure, but I can't really solve problems like that. I'm really sorry. QuidditchLoverSnitch 2(My talk)(contribs) 03:54, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
Hey Yin,

I've just been playing around making a sig for a new user, User:Scarletmoon579, and it danwd on me why your sig isn't working. I'm pretty confidnet it's because of the &. The & and a bunch of other keys (one of them being *, I think) that aren't allowed on the markup. But I really can't see any way around it, unless you're going to change your username. I just thought you might want to know. Cheers!QuidditchLoverSnitch 2(My talk)(contribs) 06:05, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Joanne Murray

Hi Yin & Yang, I was just reading the 'About Me' section on your user page, and was wondering, why did you write J.K. Rowling a.k.a. Joanne Murray? I've never heard her called that before... Thanks! --Margiechocoholic Medieval Broomstick Owl me! 21:37, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Reporting slight vandalism

Editing/ersaing other people's comments is a very serious offence. The unregistered contributor has, therefore, been officially warned and another offence of that kind will result in the latter being blocked from editing the Harry Potter Wiki. Please, do inform me if he persists in doing that. Thanks for reporting me that. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 22:24, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Unicorn blood

I added the Behind the Scenes section to the Unicorn blood article. Take a look if you want. - Nick O'Demus 13:39, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Love your work :)

Dude, I absolutely love what you add to forums, and look forward to what write next :D

Wow, thanks! I'm glad you get something out of what I do. I just write what I think other fans might want to know but all the same, I really appreciate the vote of confidence. Sorry I couldn't reply to your talk page (seeing as I don't know your I.P. address or login name) but if ever you want to ask me a question, please feel free.--Yin&Yang 11:37, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Hell yeah, I agree with the guy who wrote this section. Yin&Yang is awesome! Someone give the guy an Order of Merlin already!:D

Okay, I don't know where to begin anywhere else but 'thankyou'! Just for the record though, I don't think Order of Merlin awards are given based soley on the actual quality of the work. I think to be given such an award requires both quality and quantity in terms of what the editor contributes and I haven't really made that many edits yet. Thanks anyway, that's very kind of you.--Yin&Yang 03:31, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Accidental edit

You can copy it yourself if you go here, as it is retained in the history (just make sure sure not to hit save). Then just copy it to Seth's talk page. Cheers, Grunny (Talk) 04:10, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Your Last Edit of the Bellatrix Lestrange Page

Hmmm. I can see your point. But the fact Bellatrix was below at the Great Hall wreaking havoc doesn't contradict the books, does it? As the book doesn't mention her at Hogwarts, it is possible that she didn't ran in with Harry or the Order. I never wrote that she cast the Dark Mark, as the book states Gibbon did it prior to AD's death. Also, Bellatrix could have used one of the secret passages out of the school , unlike the other Death Eaters. There's nothing directly contradicting Bellatrix's presence on Battle on the book, that I can remember. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 10:49, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

If the books do not state something has happened and the movies do, that makes it canon under the canon policy. It is only a non-canonical fact when the books directly state that that something has not happened (i.e. Skirmish at the Burrow.) Also, I think you misinterpreted me, as I said that the article does not state that Bellatrix cast the Dark Mark as a Death Eater called Gibbon (see) did it on the books. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Seth Cooper (talkcontribs).
I see your reasoning, and completely agree that if Rowling wanted Bella to take part on the Battle she would be mentioned. However there's nowhere in canon (that I remember, please do correct me if I'm wrong!) that explicitly states she WASN'T there. As the films make that claim, her presence at the Battle is considered canon (per the canon policy).
The fact that the skirmish between the Order/DA and the Death Eaters never happened is, along with the fact that Bella was the one to cast the Dark Mark and set Hagrid's hut on fire, is completely non-canonical. The fact that Bella was part of the Battle is, according to said policy, canon. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 22:32, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
The fact that Bella cast the Dark Mark and set Hagrid's hut on fire is non-canonical. Why? Because it directly contradicts book statements (the books state that Gibbon and Thorfinn Rowle did that, respectively).
The fact that Bella was present at the Battle is canon, according to the policy. Why? Because the books do not make any reference to it (they do not support it, but they also do not contradict it).
That's the policy. I know you are not arguing against me but just reflecting your point of view (which I think is absolutely amazing to do as a community!), but if you want to propose changes to the canon policy, I would direct you to The Wizengamot, for all the community to discuss. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 23:05, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah! Go Yin&Yang! You definitely have it right! I think this guys a genius. He should be an admin guy too.

Once again, thank you for your kind words but could you please tell me who you are?--Yin&Yang 07:53, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I see what you mean. But the fact the book states Bellatrix didn't cast the Dark Mark/burn Hagrid's Hut does not necessarily rule out that she was at Hogwarts and did what she did at the Great Hall. Think of it this way: just because Alastor Moody has red hair in the films (instead of the canonical grey) does that make him another individual? As much as I agree with you (believe me, I'm sure JK would mention Bella if she was there), the canon policy makes this canon. Also, the book does not splicitly state she was not there: again, by the canon policy, an omission is not a statement. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 21:39, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Dumbledore pic

No problem. - Nick O'Demus 13:39, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

5 points

I've awarded five points to Gryffindor for the excellent edits you made to the phrophecy record article:) Jayden Matthews 14:58, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Prophecy Record

Thank you for your edits to "Prophecy Record". Still, I don't think we should remove the "cleanup" tag just yet, as the article still has OoU information, misses an "Appearances" section, does not offer any quotes when there are LOTS relevant and does not state any source whatsoever. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 00:52, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Umbridge infobox

The infobox for Umbridge has been created. TurboGolf 20:47, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Sirius Black's death

Hey, Yin&Yang. I just thought I'd let you know - I've written an article, which, I hope, resolves the dispute revolving around Sirius's death. Jayden Matthews 13:38, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Glad you like it. I'll expand it at somepoint. But, for now, it's the closest we can get to abiding by canon in regards to Sirius's death. Jayden Matthews 13:59, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Do you mean the title of the article? If so, I think the reason it isn't capitalized is because it isn't an offical name, as the spell doesn't have one. Jayden Matthews 14:13, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure. I think, when an articles title is conjectural, we only use lower case, except for the first letter of course. Your best bet would be to ask an Administrator. Jayden Matthews 14:31, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Unsigned Post

I see You-Know-Who already got to it. The simplest way is to check the talk page history. If it's the most recent post, it'll be right there at the top. As for sock puppetry, I do have a strong suspicion that this guy,, is also and X247. You can see certain similarities in both what they've been editing and what sort of comments they've been making. If you feel the comment they left you may qualify as a personal attack, you can report it to an admin. Hope this helps. - Nick O'Demus 11:31, November 25, 2009 (UTC)


Well, Yin, the simplest solution, I think, would be to create a new page, like User:Yin%26Yang/sig since %26 seems to be the markup code for &. But then, I'm not entirely sure this is allowed; if you want to try this solution, I'd ask an admin if it's okay for you to create such a page, because I think if you create User:Yin%26Yang/sig, you also create User:Yin%26Yang. Well, I'll play around and see if I can come up with another solution, but that's all I have for now. Cheers! QuidditchLoverSnitch 2(My talk)(contribs) 06:34, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

I think I've found the solution!! I was just playing around with the dozens of ways & is written around wikia, and I think I've found the right one. Try {{SUBST:User:Yin&Yang/sig}} and see if it works. It seemed to work when I tried. And please tell me the results! I'm quite eager to get this working--perhaps because it's my work. :) Well, I hope it does! QuidditchLoverSnitch 2(My talk)(contribs) 05:59, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
Wikia isn't showing what I'd actually written, so I'll put in a space where it shouldn't be. {{SUBST:User:Yin& amp; Yang/sig}} is what I'd actually writtten. Just get rid of the spaces, I put them in because if I don't, it just shows as &. But try it; it worked when I tried it with my account. If this doesn't work either, I'm willing to host your signature, as Cav suggested. QuidditchLoverSnitch 2(My talk)(contribs) 06:08, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I'm glad it worked out for you. That's one problem solved. Oh, and just a side comment: would you like to work on re-writing the Room of Requirement with me? It's really not half as good as it could be. I'm going through the basics right now: adding the missing parts, fixing grammar, structure, etc, but it'll be a while before it's done, becuase I'll have to expand it and stuff. So, anyway can you help? Thanks. QuidditchLoverSnitch 2(My talk)(contribs) 22:04, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to tell you, I've got the page copied onto my parchment, and am editing there. I'm somewhat afraid to go directly onto the page, just in case something goes wrong. I've got a list of To-dos on my parchment, and I'm just going through it for now. As soons as I'm done that, I'll get working on expanding it; I'm just trying to make sure I don't miss the basic info for now. Thanks for agreeing to help! QuidditchLoverSnitch 2(My talk)(contribs) 20:46, December 6, 2009 (UTC)


Thanks alot. That means a great deal to me. Jayden Matthews 12:36, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Still, your approval means alot to me. Thanks. Feel free to leave your two cents on the forum discussion. Jayden Matthews 09:19, December 1, 2009 (UTC)


What coding are you using at the moment? - Cavalier OneGryffindorcrest(Wizarding Wireless Network) 09:28, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, basically the ampersand is the problem. The way Wikia coding works, most symbols are replaced with code values. Standard Wikia practice advises people not to use certain symbols in article names (although sometimes there is no way around it), and this applies to user names as well. Basically, signature coding is like placing a template on a page, such as a stub template or infobox. However, instead of calling for a page in the Template namespace, the signature calls for the signature page you set up. As Quidditch Lover suggests, since you have an ampersand, the process for calling the template gets confused. There's no way around it that, I'm afraid. However, there may be a way. Since its basically a template call, you can create a page that doesn't include your name in it, and use that in the signature field. Our signature policy doesn't allow for custom signatures to be anywhere apart from the User namespace (that is, they must follow the User:Username/Signature format). This is a matter of neatness and order, to keep the Template namespace free of custom signatures that can be stored elsewhere. If another user is willing to "host" a second signature for you, to the effect of, say, (User:Username/YYsignature) then that should work. However, this would only work on this one Wiki. Any other Wiki, and your signature would just display as the raw tag {{Subst:User:Username/YYsignature}}. There may also be a way to create a global signature using a global.js script which would apply to all Wikia-hosted wikis. It might be an idea to inquire about that at Central. - Cavalier OneGryffindorcrest(Wizarding Wireless Network) 11:23, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Millennium Bridge Collapse Debate

Hey Yin,

I wanted to talk to YOU about this debate. It's going nowhere. I do agree with you; common sense tells us that 1) the films are set in post-2000 and 2) the Millennium Bridge was used instead of the Brockdale Bridge. But policy disagrees. The films (and books) are full of anachronisms, and the general scene makes it "blatantly obvious" that they are set in this time period, not a decade before. But the general scene, and all the other things you've pointed out, are clues. No matter how obvious, they are clues. The dates (such as Draco's birthdate) are facts. You have to agree with that. And only facts can be considered canon. Because of that, the films have to be considered as taking place in the 1990s. If you just think about it, Millennium Bridge replaced Brockdale Bridge. Common sense says so. However, since there is no evidence directly contradicting the existence and collapse of the Millenium Bridge in 1997, it is canon, according to policy. Here, in this Wiki, policy is more important than anything, common sense included. And because Policy trumps Common Sense, Cav's right; your points are void. The policies aren't perfect; you know they can't be. We've gotten them as close to perfection as we can, or at least my fellow editors and I think so. There are still going to be many problems, but we have to solve them according to policy. And policy states that the Millennium Bridge Collapse is canon. I'm not saying it makes sense; it doesn't. But that's the policy. Both sides of the debate are sound; it's just a difference between being based on Common Sense and Policy. And since policy trumps common sense here, Seth and Jayden and Cav and all the others' argument have to win over yours. It's just that. Obviously, they aren't perfect. But wee have to stick to policies as closely as possible, no matter what problems arise, or there's no point in having them. It's simply POLICY over everything else. Well, I think I've made myself as clear as possible, but if you have any questions, ask me at my talk. And please don't be offended; I just meant to state things the way they are. That's all. QuidditchLoverSnitch 2(My talk)(contribs) 22:14, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Where'd you go?

Hey Yin,

I haven't seen you around in a while. Where are you? QuidditchLoverSnitch 2(My talk)(contribs) 18:11, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Yin&Yang I am reporting you for your pompousity, arrogance, and supercilious behaviour towards Jayce Carter and myself. You're a disgrace to editors and Harry Potter fans. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by X247 (talkcontribs).

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