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Dumbledore is gay Edit
The issue of Dumbledore's sexuality is not a matter of subjective interpretation. It is stated fact by the author and creator of the series. - Nick O'Demus 09:42, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
- Since it's not stated and not even hinted at (except perhaps the slightest bit) in the books, critics still argue whether this should be considered canon or not. Guess New York Times is reliable enough to have their opinion presented in the article. Fo01 09:46, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
- As mentioned, she is the author. She created this series. These are her characters. And it's pretty difficult to misinterpret "Dumbledore is gay". A significant portion of the information we have comes from interviews she has given or stuff from her website. And yet there isn't nearly as much debate over Neville marrying Hannah Abbott, or Harry becoming head of the Auror Department, or Luna having two kids, etc, etc. - Nick O'Demus 09:51, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
- The English Wikipedia explicitly states: "Some critics argued that Dumbledore's sexuality might not be considered canon. New York Times columnist Edward Rothstein said that "Ms. Rowling may think of Dumbledore as gay" however, "there is no reason why anyone else should"." Besides, her phrase "I've always though of him as being gay" sound more like the author's personal character interpretation rather than canon. --Fo01 10:11, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
- She didn't just say "I've always though of him as being gay", she also said he IS gay. And as she's the author, what she thinks about her own characters tends to carry some weight (a lot more than a newspaper columnist or some critics who have no relevance to the series).
Per the comment you made on CavOne's talk page. The references throughout the text are necessary as they go to the character's motivations. Knowing Dumbledore's motivations makes the article more Dumbledore centric. Basically, you now have 2 administrators on your page telling you to back off. --JKoch(Owl Me!) 14:34, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
- From the information we know, that Dumbledore fell in love with Grindelwald. He also supported Grindelwald's idea's telling Harry, "Grindelwald, you cannot imagine how his ideas caught me, Harry, inflamed me." And to that the fact that Dumbledore was blind to Grindelwald's true intentions, and you have the basis of a logical conclusion that that statement holds. --JKoch(Owl Me!) 15:32, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
Albus Dumbledore and Dumbledorenotgay userbox Edit
While you are entitled to your belief that Dumbledore is not gay, please understand that under the rules of this wiki, Rowling's comments are the highest form of Canon. Therefore, until she retracts her statement, this wiki will continue to operate under that belief. Your edits will continue to be reverted if you seek to change the article to reflect your belief.
Similarly, your new userbox will be allowed to stay, as it reflects a personal belief. However the image of the rainbow flag with a line through it has been deleted and removed from the userbox as it can be seen as offensive to members of the gay community. Please do not upload it again. - Cavalier One(Wizarding Wireless Network) 14:53, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
Because Dumbledore is gay. That is a stated fact. There is no reason to hold an opposing view unless you're a homophobe, which is offensive.
- Strange logic. If you personally don't see Dumbledore as gay, that doesn't nesessary mean you're a homophobe. If Rowling declared that Harry is an alien or a vampire, and you wouldn't believe it, would it make you an alien-phobe or a vampire-phobe? ;) --Fo01 13:34, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
- It might, if vampires and aliens existed. Why don't you see Dumbledore as gay?
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You have yet to make ONE constructive edit to this wiki. Your only article contributions were reverted by TWO Administrators. And before you respond with your NY Times article, let me point out the following:
- Wikipedia has their own policies and standards. This isn't Wikipedia.
- Michael Jackson is fan of the series. This has been mentioned and referenced. But if Michael Jackson had said "I think Harry and Luna had an affair in 2025", would we include that here? No, because Michael Jackson had no involvement with the series' development. Whatever his opinions were have no bearing on the facts.
If all you want to do is keep trumpeting your opinion (which you have made very clear), this isn't the place for it. There are any number of fan forums and discussion boards out there for that sort of thing, and you can shout "DUMBLEDORE'S NOT GAY!" at any or all of them until you're blue in the face. - Nick O'Demus 07:58, October 24, 2010 (UTC)