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I don't know about you, but I am on a HIGH from watching the new extravaganza of Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. It is quite hard not to be. There are lots of crazy links to the original series which are still being picked out, but one quote, right at the end, really took me down.

"Will we die, just a little?"

The tone of this was frightening. Grindelwald knows that he is getting out- he speaks about the future- and we know that Voldemort eventually kills him in his prison cell.  We also know he has a great duel with his former friend Dumbledore (hence the prison cell) nineteen years later at the same time as Voldemort is in his seventh year taking his NEWT exams (May 1945). This duel might have been a source of inspiration for Voldemort: he could do better and win. There are lots of tangled characters here. The point I am getting across is that Grindelwald is a hugely important character in more ways than one. He is also cocky and self-assured- his ultimate downfall?

But going back to the quote, this suggests that Grindelwald has it in for Newt. This has to be explored in the next few movies, but what is really interesting is that Newt isn't involved in the big final duel involving Dumbledore and Grindelwald. Does Newt defeat Grindelwald at some point? We know that Newt lives a long life, so he definitely makes it out ok enough.

I also love the fact that it is "just a little", suggesting that Grindelwald might not actually want to kill Newt. Maybe he just wants to see him suffer. Probably in a much more cruel fashion. Or it could just be that Grindelwald wants to force Newt to follow him (as we do know that Grindelwald has an army). We know that Newt does support the allowance of Muggle and Non-Muggle marriage when he comments on the "backwards laws" of America on the subject. (This is when Tina first meets Newt by the bank) If Grindelwald knew that Newt said this, he could see an opportunity to force Newt to join him as it would be easier if he already held a similar (but a lot less radical) view as to what Grindelwald wanted. He could be threatening Newt, warning him that he could be wanted.

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But how would Grindelwald know that Newt said this? Having spies or just him slinking around is a bit too mainstream for Rowling; it would be some sort of twist or hidden clue. If you remember when Tina Goldstein ends up on the wizard death row with Newt, you see a memory being extracted from Tina's mind in the same way that Dumbledore is seen extracting a memory in the original Harry Potter films. This is then used to manipulate her to willingly place herself in the chair. (If you have watched the film you will know what I mean. If you haven't watched the film- what are you doing reading this until you have watched it?!). What we don't know is how many memories are extracted in this process and where they actually go (appart from the wand). Is there any way Percival Graves/Grindelwald could access Tina's memories and see the scene where Tina first meets Newt?

Well I can give Grindelwald this- he is definitely very observant, and very good at crafting hints that will throw us into an excited gaggle of scared geese trying desperately to figure out what will happen next.



To say the least, there is a lot more to this line than meets the eye. --Hannah-3105 (talk) 22:10, November 26, 2016 (UTC)