Talk:Wand

Chart

On her site J.K.Rowling said she found a chart which helped her decide/finalise a few major characters' wands, it would be good to get that list in the article. The list was of different ancient trees (used in wands) and which birth months they corresponded to. 210.49.174.3 08:43, August 17 2007

Elder Wand's Core

Someone listed The Elder Wand as having a Thestral's hair as a core. Where did this information even come from? - —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Deadeye-Davi (talk • contribs).

From J.K. Rowling's website. She posted it in the FAQ section in a recent update. I had to verify it myself since I thought it was fanon myself. - Cavalier One^{(Wizarding Wireless Network)} 22:30, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Wandmaker=Death?

In the Tales of Beedle the Bard it is stated that Death created the Elder Wand. Should it be said that Death was a Wandmaker? Dumblydoor 15:52, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

All he did was pluck a twig off a tree though. He didn't craft anything IMO. Mafalda Hopkirk 23:25, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

True, and also Dumbledore believes that the Three Brothers created the wand anyway... Dumblydoor 12:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

What the f?

• Wands used in the Harry Potter films are shown to have clear handles for wizards to hold onto them such as the bone handle of Voldemort's yew wand. The books however do not describe such handles. In fact all the pictures by Mary GrandPré in the American editions depict all wands as thin rods. This is supported by such things as Ron's Slug-Vomiting Charm coming out the "wrong end" of the wand and Harry's feeling that his wand is a "strip of wood" compared to a Dragon.

What exactly is is supported the sentence doesn't make sense, is it supported that they do have handles in the books or not?-- 21:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The idea that the wands in the books do not have handles is supported by Ron's slug-vomiting charm coming out of the wrong end, making it seem as though the wand must be the same size all around. --Parodist 11:18, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Pine trees as wand?

In the text it says "Some of the woods used include:" and then it come lots of different wood types, is that the entire list of woods used? Or is there more wood types used that we don´t know of? Like did they make wands of Pine trees?

--78.69.4.223 20:20, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

We only know the woods that were used for wands listed in the novels, which is not very many. There could very well be wands made out of other woods, it's just that nobody owned one in the books. So yes, they very well could have made wands out of pine.--Matoro183 ^(Talk) 21:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Wand Recognizing New Master

There is a line in the text that suggests that a wand's allegance cannot be won by a wizard removing it from the owner's hand without magic; i.e. physically wrenching it from the owner's grip. This is definately incorrect! Harry used absolutely no spellwork to gain the Elder Wand's allegance. During the events at Malfoy Manor, Harry wrested Draco's own wand and two others out of his grip and then used them to stun Greyback with a triple spell. Just the one action of removing Malfoy's wand from his grip gave Harry the Elder Wand's devotion, and the devotion of Malfoy's own wand as well. Do I have an administrator's permission to change this or am I missing something here?--Yin&Yang 08:51, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

The affects of the dark arts on a wands appearance

Has anyone else noticed that all the wands used by dark wizards have particularly sinister appearances? It's hard to imagine Ollivander making wands like Bellatrix's and Voldemort's. Is it possible that extended use of dark magic can physically warp the appearance of a wand? Jayden Matthews 13:34, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I think that is just the creative liberty of the filmakers so don't read too much into it. Although your theory about Dark Magic physically disfiguring a wand is interesting, it doesn't tie in with Fleur Delacour's film wand which has an unusual bend to it (shown in 'Goblet of Fire'). Fleur is definitely not a Dark Witch so I think we can rule that idea out.

What I am about to say is something I have said before, and even though it may be far too late to do anything about it now, I'll still stick by my argument. I strongly feel that the wiki policy sets too much store by films and videogames i.e. "canonical" information from sources other than the books. The books contain the true story of Harry Potter, the films along with all other media are just adaptations of that story. I personally disagree with the way some articles imply that the events in the books and the respective films are side-along and part of the same universe. Often, these articles beat around the bush and mince words so as to avoid any contradicting pieces of information from two different sources; that shouldn't have to happen. The books and the films are all composed by totally different people who haven't necessarily agreed on everything together, so how can that lead to consistency? That is, J.K. Rowling isn't asked for permission on every change the directors bring to the story.

If the Dark Wizards' wands are bent or altered in the films it doesn't follow with the books' versions consistently! Ollivander is the only known Wandmaker in Britain and being a very kind and benign man, is not meant to create twisted versions of wands. You might say that the Dark Wizards purposely chose to alter their wands by themselves - but without the necessary knowledge of wandlore, how are they supposed to do that? I have seen countless interviews of film cast members in which they explicitly state that J.K. Rowling herself recognises the books and the films as "two seperate entities", so why can't we? Instead this wiki combines the two/three universes into an unrecognisable and inconsistent storyline. I'm only saying this because I genuinely care about Harry Potter and I do like this wiki (otherwise I wouldn't bother writing anything) so please don't think I'm trying to vandalise the policy.

I think the ideal policy would allow only in-universe sections of articles to relate to the books whereas any article that refers to the films or games, is labeled out-of-universe with their sources mentioned. Excuse my sardonic tone, but "bring on the disagreements, I know there will be plenty".--Yin&Yang 08:28, November 15, 2009 (UTC)