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Teacher?[]

How do we know she's a teacher? How do we know she isn't Lucinda Thomsonicle-Pocus, for example? Or maybe a recast of Irma Pince? Maester Martin (talk) 00:37, June 10, 2018 (UTC)

Identified!?[]

Holy cow, okay, here goes to being excited for nothing lol, but I think I found her!? (Or not.) Could this be her? Actress "Sangeeta Reding" https://www.mandy.com/actor/profile/sangeeta-reding; granted, I have no idea how long ago the showreel on the profile was made, and that to me she kinda looked younger in it as opposed to the screenshots of this "Unidentified female Hogwarts teacher" has in the article, but I do see the resemblance? On Mandy, she is supposedly credited as "Wizard Teacher Camelia" in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (film), Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (film) and Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (film). (GOF isn't listed =/) I am aware that Mandy can contain errors, however, seeing that a good amount of Users take Mandy (and even IMDb) as "fact", can people help verify and share your thoughts on whether or not you think Actress Sangeeta Reding does look like she was the actress portraying this character? (I admit, I personally find more resemblance in the showreel and not the photoshoots provided on Mandy, so be sure to check out the clip) Because if the general consent is "yes, that's her", can we then assume in good faith the credit is correct, and proceed to rename this page as "Camelia"? Very, very eager to hear some thoughts! --Sammm✦✧(talk) 03:08, March 2, 2019 (UTC)

And this is why I personally never got used to Pinterest. I have no idea why (and idk if this was merely a browser issue) the descriptions don't seem to always be present when you clicked into whatever you clicked into. Here's the description for the following link: "Here is Sangeeta Reding, who casts in a lot of Pakistani and Indian roles. The eyes are not retouched, those are all her own. Crazy reflections." (https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/521854675541062822) (literally just now when I first clicked in there was no descriptions or tags and just the image, yet it is now showing up for me, so while this is not the point, I'm just providing the description in case this also happen to people who clicked in) But yeah, please consider taking a look at the linked photoshoot, I really do think it looks like the same actress. --Sammm✦✧(talk) 03:58, March 2, 2019 (UTC)
Great find! She does indeed seem to be the actress that plays this teacher. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 04:36, March 2, 2019 (UTC)
Okay, cool. I think the only thing that's a bit remotely shady, is that, when I Googled "Wizard Teacher Camelia" (with the 2 "s; because without it, I'm not finding anything relevant), the only result was Reding's Mandy profile; I'm like confused why that would be the only place to ever have documentation on it should it be legit. Just rewatched the showreel though, and I think comparing it to the Sybill Trelawney deleted scene, Reding's definitely the actress. The next question would be whether or not to take the "Camelia" claim seriously? =D
--Sammm✦✧(talk) 05:38, March 2, 2019 (UTC)
Double yes! Belatedly found her Spotlight profile https://www.spotlight.com/4411-3427-3107 (Not sure why Google s*cks at this when searching "Sangeeta Reding site:spotlight.com" showed no result.) Anyhow, on Spotlight, she is in fact credited for GOF along with the other films. It also has more photoshoots of her. The only downside is that she is only credited as "Wizard Teacher" as opposed to "Wizard Teacher Camelia".
--Sammm✦✧(talk) 09:48, March 2, 2019 (UTC)
I won't pretend to have any knowledge on the subject: how reliable is Mandy.com? Are those official professional profiles? If so, then I think it would be fine to rename this "Camelia"; if not, perhaps it should just be mentioned in the "Behind the scenes" section? --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 17:06, March 2, 2019 (UTC)
I can't pretend either. D; I'm not sure if I'm just too trusting and gullible, but their About Us page is pretty compelling; sample opening paragraphs and company timeline infographic: "We are the world’s largest creative community of actors, film and TV crew, theatre professionals, child actors, voiceover artists, dancers, singers, musicians, models and extras. We empower professionals to find work in TV studios, on movie sets, in training institutions, events, concert halls, theatre companies and art collectives. We help cast commercials, link art directors with cinematographers, and bring lighting designers to dark stages. We support our members as they promote themselves and network across the arts and media industries." (timeline image); IDK if this would help the matter on recognition, but they were previously "Casting Call Pro" (and a few other "Pro"s). I believe the full domain change happened around 2018, (according to the graph presented by Wayback Machine there's no new URLs for castingcallpro.com after 2017) this is what castingcallpro.com's more recent homepage originally looked like. So any link to "Casting Call Pro", if not archived, is redirected to "Mandy", and there's quite a few on this Wiki. Personally, I thought the old site name just automatically gave the impression that they are legit lol. (I'm bringing this up because perhaps "Casting Call Pro" would ring a bell, if not, owells xP) --Sammm✦✧(talk) 18:42, March 2, 2019 (UTC)

Bump. --Sammm✦✧(talk) 03:14, December 30, 2019 (UTC)

I feel like the two independent sources would at any rate support renaming the page Wizard Teacher. But I'm prepared to trust "Camelia", personally. --Scrooge MacDuck (talk) 11:03, December 30, 2019 (UTC)


In light of this discovery, I think we should just rename the article "Camelia" and be done with it.  Tfoc (talk) 19:26, October 9, 2020 (UTC) 

We have used Mandy in the past to track down character names and actors, so I don't see why we couldn't use it to take the name "Camelia". It's an appropriate source, so I feel inclined to trust it too. - Kates39 (talk) 21:17, October 9, 2020 (UTC)

Mistaken for Irma Pince?[]

I don't think there is a Camelia at all. Several photos of her clearly show that it is Irma Pince. The only "clue" to the existence of "Camelia" is the Mandy page of an actress of Indian origin who supposedly played this role. I'm leaning towards the possibility that this is a recast of Irma Pince, as has happened several times in the films (for example, Pansy Parkinson or the Patil twins). -Zuckerkatze (talk) 10:57, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

This is baseless speculation, I'm afraid. This wiki will continue to treat Irma Pince and Camelia as different characters until strong canon proof to the contrary emerges, which is extremely unlikely imho. At the current time, there is no reason to suggest the Mandy page is wrong. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  11:33, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
I found something interesting: On the Polish Fandom page, the "Camelia" pics are linked to Bathsheda Babbling. -Zuckerkatze (talk) 11:51, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
There is zero proof for the claims made above, and if the Polish HP wiki has incorrectly attributed these images to another character, then that is a matter for them to correct. RedWizard98 (talk) 11:54, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
I have not written a single word that the Polish page is wrong. Forgive me for doubting a character that does not appear in any of the HP books. It should be clear to everyone by now that the films are not necessarily canon. If we were to go by that, the heraldic animal of Ravenclaw would not be an eagle. -Zuckerkatze (talk) 12:03, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Just checked the Polish wiki. The 'Camelia' images there do not link to Bathsheda Babbling. They have a separate page for Camelia just like we do. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  21:27, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Despite not speaking Polish, I also removed the images of Camelia from Babbling's page on that wiki to avoid any confusion between the two. RedWizard98 (talk) 02:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Interesting that all of a sudden the pictures disappear and a new page pops up as soon as I mention this ... I have uploaded a screenshot of it, you can see it on my profile. -Zuckerkatze (talk) 10:43, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
This was just an error on the Polish page, and it has already been fixed. Would it be better if you take your concern to the Polish Harry Potter Wiki and open a discussion there? - Peregino (talk) 11:03, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
To be honest, the problem of these images being mistaken on the "Polish HPW" has nothing to do with the "English HPW". - Peregino (talk) 11:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
And in any case, even when those images were on the polish Bathsheda Babbling page, they were captioned as "woman who may have been Bathsheda Babbling" anyway. They were never certain. Also the separate Camelia page on the polish wiki was renamed to 'Camelia' back in October, so it's not really a case of "a new page popping up as soon as you mention this". -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  11:19, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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