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Moved from "Talk:Black 1995 Start-of-Term Feast attendant". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 01:25, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Ministry of Magic and name

I recall seeing an almost identical man in HBP and in a deleted scene, you can hear the director talking to the man, reminding him that he is Professor Severing/ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.108.3.43 (talk • contribs).

In which scene, and why is the section titled ´Ministry of magic and name?--Rodolphus 11:12, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Bumping--Rodolphus 14:37, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Unless a source is presented, the information shall not be included in the article. And what does this have to do with the Ministry of Magic, exactly? --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 16:48, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Why would the director be reminding an extra who their character is? Sounds phony beloney to me. Or maybe you just misheard. Jayden Matthews 16:56, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it's most likely fanon, but it wouldn´t be the first time a character is not naned in the film itself, but later. Sinistra and Vector were first identified in Lego Harry Potter. Maybe he'll be in a future video game.--Rodolphus 17:02, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

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Moved from "Talk:Black Hogwarts Healer". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 01:29, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Pomfrey?

Don't you think she could actually be Madam Pomfrey but portrayed by a different actor? Butterfly the rabbit 13:09, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Image

Can we get an image?--Rodolphus 14:31, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Uploaded an image. By the way, another unidentified nurse appears in the same scene and after the Quidditch match when Harry wakes up in the hospital wing. -Smonocco 15:04, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Should we move this article to unidentified Healer 1 then, or create a redirect?--Rodolphus 15:07, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

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Moved from "Talk:Oriental Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry employee". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 01:39, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Not Sprout, Trelawney or Pince

We know it's not Sprout, Trelawney or Pince now. Monkey-_ 12:39, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

And who is it then? Do you think Hogwarts is full of unknowns teachers? Each unknown teacher or teacher should someone play and they should be addressed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Septima Vector (talk • contribs).

asian?

In Britiain, we call people Asian when they are from India and other such places. Chinese people, like this witch here, would be called Oriental. It is more of an American thing to call Chinese/Japanese people Asian. 92.23.114.58 16:51, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

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Moved from "Talk:Healer who watched the first task". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 16:07, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Hogwarts Employee?

It is entirely possible that this healer may not be a Hogwarts employee but instead has been brought in to monitor the challenge on behalf of the Ministry.

What proof is there that she is indeed a Hogwarts employee? Sings-With-Spirits 19:41, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

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Moved from "Talk:High-ranking Hogwarts Healer". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 16:10, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

High-ranking Hogwarts Healer

Is it not more likely that this actually is Pomfrey? Butterfly the rabbit 17:14, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, she could to change her robes for the laters films, or not? Or may be in the first year of Harry Potter had more than a nurse, and clothes were used to differentiate them —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2.213.166.72 (talk • contribs).

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Moved from "Talk:Hogwarts witch wearing a big hat". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 16:17, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

in lego

She isnt named in the lego game?Pol 871 19:26, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

i haven´t even seen her. Where does she appear?--Rodolphus 15:07, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

she appears at the far right of the staff table in 1991. 91.108.11.32 11:46, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Bumping--Rodolphus 10:19, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

we can get an image of him in lego?Pol 871 18:33, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

I can only remember one teacher I can´t identify. In the very last scene, she´s waving at the Durmstramg students when they leave. Or she could have been Sprout. But she didn´t resemble the employee described here at all.--Rodolphus 18:37, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

anyway we can get an image for create the article?Pol 871 19:05, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Bumping--Rodolphus 10:33, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Bumping--Rodolphus 18:57, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Bumping--Rodolphus 16:26, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

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Moved from "Talk:Hogwarts wizard in the Middle Courtyard". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 16:20, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Image

Can we get an image?--Rodolphus 14:34, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

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Moved from "Talk:Unidentified female Hogwarts employee (V)". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 16:20, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Madam Hooch

Need to combine this page and page Rolanda Hooch. Since it is clear and without evidence that this Madam Hooch. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Septima Vector (talk • contribs).

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Moved from "Talk:Unidentified Start-of-Term Feast attendant (II)". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 16:42, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Pomona Sprout?

Probably this Pomona Sprout teacher? Since Wilhelmina Grubbly-Plank could not be a Prisoner of Azkaban, in Bathsheda, it is not very similar, but on a very even Sprout. Especially in the prisoner she was dressed in a gold color odezhy, just for the dean of Hufflepuff. User:Septima Vector

No evidence. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 16:57, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

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Moved from "Talk:Unidentified Start-of-Term Feast attendant (1996)". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 16:48, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Guy from POA?

Is he this guy from POA? keep in mind almost 5 years difference, and low quality. Same nose and hair.

[1] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 92.3.63.232 (talk • contribs).

Maybe, He looks similar, heads a different shape thought.Emrabt 19:48, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Because of the discription in the book I think it could be that he played Wilkie Twycross, the Ministry of Magic Apparition Instructor in HBP. What do you think? Harry granger 19:36, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Twycross did not attend the Welcoming Feast. He is introduced later, in the Apparition class.--The Evening Prophet (Owl Post) 22:04, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Character in other films?

Our article on Neil Findlater states that he plays a Wizengamot member in OP and a Death Eater in DH. Should we consider them the same characters?

We also consider two Death Eaters from OP to be Macnair and Dolohow, though they are identified in other films.--Rodolphus 16:46, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

Bumping--Rodolphus 16:05, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

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Moved from "Talk:Unidentified Start-of-Term Feast attendant (1995)". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 16:53, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Another appearance

In Harry Potter and the Philosopher´s Stone, when the first years are Soerted, we see Hagrid at the staff table. On his right side, there is the Unidentified female teacher 4 and on the left side, there is a teacher similar to this one. Is it him, or another Unidentified teacher?--Rodolphus 14:26, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

are Unidentified male Hogwarts employee (XVII) and Unidentified male Hogwarts employee (III) the same person? 92.3.63.232 10:50, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

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Moved from "Talk:Unidentified male Hogwarts employee (XXVI)". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 19:57, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Repeated article

This man already has a page Unidentified male Hogwarts employee (IV)92.3.63.232 10:36, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Both pictures do look like they are the same person, but at the feast he's wearing glasses and in the other picture he's not. --BachLynn23 12:19, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Not everyone wears glasses everytime.--Rodolphus 12:22, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

It's the same man from the same movie, playing the same character. Emrabt 13:46, July 30, 2010 (UTC) ´ Should be merged, then.--Rodolphus 13:48, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure that they are the same person.Pol 871 13:57, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not that sure, either. This individual seems to have a moustache, whereas the unidentified male Hogwarts employee (IV) doesn't seem to have any. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 14:00, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that's actually a mustache, if you look really close, I think it's just the poor image quality of the picture. I copied the picture out and played around with it some in Photoshop (cleaning it up and magnifying the pixels), it doesn't appear to be a mustache there. --BachLynn23 14:15, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

If we look at the low quality version of Teacher 4 it also looks like he has a moustache, if you look at a colour correctedemployee (XXVI) it looks like he doesn't have a moustache, it's the picture quality and the brightness. Emrabt 15:08, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Vote for merging?

So all in all, I propose we decide once and for all whether or not these two be merged. I'm in favor of it, I think they are the same person. What does everyone else think? --BachLynn23 15:18, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's the same man, so i think merging would be a good idea.Emrabt 15:40, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

As we're in doubt, we should keep the two just to be safe. If we get another better-quality picture that proves they're the same guy, then we should merge. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 15:48, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

After said this image, i think that yes, they are the same individual, because in this promotional/filming image, the wizard looks with her glasses.:

everyone seems to be in agreement that they are now the same man, we shoudl merge.Emrabt 19:41, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Watching Movie

I will watch the movie this weekend on my laptop, and see if I can get a better screen shot/image of the pictures/characters in question. --BachLynn23 16:07, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

it is impossible that you get a better image.Is an screenshoot of a website who have their photos in the best quality of the DVD.Pol 871 16:13, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

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Moved from "Talk:Unidentified male Hogwarts employee (XXIII)". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 20:02, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Aberforth?

Who says that he's a teacher. It could in fact actually be Aberforth Dumbledore, as this man have a long beard and Aberforth was about to grow a long beard. And that Aberforth was shown in the book. --Danniesen October 8 2011, 19:33 (Denmark)

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Moved from "Talk:Unidentified male Hogwarts employee (XIV)". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 20:09, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Actor

Is it just the costume, or could he have been played by David Sterne

If I´m right, this wizard isn´t a teacher, but a ministry wizard.--Rodolphus 10:30, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Bumping--Rodolphus 16:42, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

When this man is David Sterne, than he played indeed a ministry wizard. Harry granger 17:42, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

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Moved from "Talk:Unidentified male Hogwarts employee (XII)". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 20:11, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Which scene?

Which scene did the image of him in POA come from?92.12.181.83 12:17, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

The Quidditch scene, in the grade with the other employees —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pol 871 (talk • contribs).

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Moved from "Talk:Unidentified male Hogwarts employee (XI)". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 20:14, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Verify

This image is not fanon:http://www.mugglenet.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1541&pos=32

And how do we know he worked at Hogwarts in the 1940s? --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 12:21, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Because he is seen in the Tom Riddle's Diary, during the flashback.Pol 871 14:56, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

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Moved from "Talk:Unidentified male Hogwarts employee (X)". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 20:17, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Better Picture

We need a better picture. That one is rubbish. User:Conaboy2

Quirrell?

I believe that this may be Professor Quirrell. Thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.108.3.43 (talk • contribs).

I doubt that this is Quirrell as Quirrell can be seen sitting next to Snape in the same scene, wearing a different costume. -Smonocco 11:13, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

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Moved from "Talk:Unidentified male Hogwarts employee (V)". --  Seth Cooper  owl& nbsp;post! 20:19, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Muggle Studies teacher?

He could be the Unidentified_male_Muggle_Studies_teacher The timing is right. Monkey-_ 15:34, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

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Moved from "Talk:Unidentified Hogwarts old male teacher". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 20:25, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Which?

To which teacher is this article referring? The teacher setting up the enchantments and the teacher going down the Ravenclaw Staircase are two different professors: one has a beard, and the other does not. So, which one? Because I was about to upload some higher quality pictures of him, but realised he has a beard in one and none in the other! AlastorMoody 22:31, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

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Moved from "Talk:Unidentified female Hogwarts teacher (XII)". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 20:41, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Aurora Sinistra

I'm positive that she is Professor Sinistra. If you look closely she has the same skin color, nose, and face features as the actress who played Sinistra. Also, the Oriental Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry employee appeared in the first film, along with Sinistra, and returned in the same seen in this film. I'm pretty sure that is Sinistra. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zannabanna (talk • contribs).

No concrete, verifiable evidence, no action taken. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 23:37, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Well I guess I'll go evidence hunting :D --Zannabanna (talk) 00:24, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Evidence:

• They have the same pointy noses and skin color.
• Aurora's hair is braided, and this unidentified female's hair is also braided.
• Aurora appeared in the first film with The Oriental Female Employee. Some of the crew announced they wanted to bring everything back. Well they brought back the Oriental Employee in the scene this "Unidentified" female appears in. They obviously brought them back from the first film to be in this scene together.
• In Behind the Scenes of this page it says this wizard can be either Aurora Sinistra or Septima Vector. I don't even have to think about that. It's obviously Aurora. Septima is known for her red hat, and this one doesn't even have the same hair color or skin color as Septima.

This is obviously Aurora Sinistra :D --Zannabanna (talk) 15:30, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Uh, no. By "evidence", Seth means find a reliable source that says that the actress who played this extra is credited as Sinistra, or at the very least is the same actress who played her in the first film. I don't think we could ever say with enough certainty to list her as the same person based of physical similarity alone. -- 1337star ^{(Drop me a line!)} 16:23, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

How do we know that Igor Karkaroff's Yule Ball partner appears in the last film. It doesn't look like her exactly. A lot of unidentified teachers have been put as appearing in sevreal films because they have the same hair, etc. There is no evidence of who even plays those unidentified extras either. --Zannabanna (talk) 16:29, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with you completely. -- 1337star ^{(Drop me a line!)} 16:37, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

There are numerous more. About every unidentified teacher is credited to have appeared in more than 1 film and they aren't the same extra but I'm sure the same character. Who else could this wizard be besides Aurora? I'm pretty sure this is Aurora Sinistra! ;D --Zannabanna (talk) 16:40, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

We've seen characters have complete make-overs and, in some cases, complete redresses of their physical features (i.e. Lavender Brown, Filius Flitwick). Physical evidence is, by itself, too weak an argument to support any claim of this sort because of this. Besides, just because there are other background characters whose articles claim they were played by the same person in Deathly Hallows: Part 2, that doesn't make it fact unless there are other external sources to support it. If those articles are mistaken, we ought to correct them, not to pollute other articles with potential misinformation.

On the other hand, when you use the "Who else could this wizard be besides Aurora?" argument, you are forgetting that Hogwarts has a large faculty and, one can presume, a just as large body of non-teaching staff (judging by the films). Why could she be? A teacher we don't know; a redress of a previouly seen teacher (á la Flitwick); an assistant caretaker; a school secretary; a member of the Board of Governors; the Chief Attendant of Witchcraft Provisions; and I could go on, and on, and on.

One last little counterargument: "Some of the crew announced they wanted to bring everything back." Alright. I'll accept that as long as you give me a source for that statement, and point me out where, for instance, Zoë Wanamaker starred as a Rolanda Hooch or John Cleese as Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington in Deathly Hallows: Part 2. Evidently not everything was thrown into the film, so why must we presume the extras were? --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 23:38, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

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Moved from "Talk:Unidentified male Hogwarts employee (XVI)". --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 21:43, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Unidentified male Hogwarts employee (VIII)

Hi, I found again an article where I think the photos of the employees are so similar they can be the same person: Unidentified male Hogwarts employee (XVI) and Unidentified male Hogwarts employee (VIII).

Rename

Since all the articles with too little information is redirected and put into the Unidentified Hogwarts employees page, I think we should rename this page by removing the "(XVI)" part and calling him teacher instead of employee. Just a thought. :) --94.191.187.17 10:35, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

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