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==Archive==
 
I took the liberty to archive the page. It was getting pretty long. {{User:Ratneer/sig include}} 20:06, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
Good job, Ratneer.--[[User:Station7|Station7]] 20:12, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
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== Name Change ==
   
Erm, could we get a citation for voldie being trapped in limbo forever? {{Unsigned|114.76.49.240}}
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I think that the name of this article should be changed to Voldemort. This is because that he is more commonly known as Voldemort rather than Tom Riddle. He tossed aside his birth name for a new one. Therefore wouldn't it be more suitable to use the name he goes by rather than a name he doesn't use anymore? [[User:Weirdo Guy|<font face="Arial Black" size="4" color="midnightblue" >Weirdo Guy</font>]] ([[User talk:Weirdo Guy|<font face="Segoe UI Light" size="2" color="steelblue">talk</font>]]) 23:23, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
   
:{{Done}}. - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 15:56, November 13, 2010 (UTC)
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:It is the policy of this wiki to use a character's legal first and last name. Voldemort was merely a title Tom Riddle took in his adult years. Changing this article's name would be a manner of changing policy, and thus a wider discussion than just this one article. -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] <sup>([[User_talk:1337star|Drop me a line!]])</sup> 23:49, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
   
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Technically Voldemort is an alias rather than a title. Dark Lord, Chief Death Eater, Heir of Slytherin: those are titles.
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[[User:Jdogno7|Jdogno7]] ([[User talk:Jdogno7|talk]]) 04:23, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
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==Voldemort/Lord Voldemort==
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Actually "Lord Voldemort" is better grounded in canon than just "Voldemort" - CoS movie level or higher. During the confrontation in the Chamber of Secrets, the sentence "I am Lord Voldemort" is shown to be the anagram of "Tom Marvolo Riddle". [[User talk:MinorStoop|<font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="red">MinorStoop</font></font>]] 07:45, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
   
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:Agreed. Even Dumbledore, who pretty much hated him, called him "Lord Voldemort". [[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 01:16, March 26, 2014 (UTC)
   
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Voldemort only calls himself a Lord to make himself appear to be an aristocratic elitist. He doesn't have aristocratic heritage on either side of his family not as far back as his grandparents at least.
# [[User:Pol 871|Pol 871]] 19:32, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
# [[User:Jayden Matthews|Jayden Matthews]] 22:19, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
# [[User:El Profeta Vespertino|El Profeta Vespertino]] 11:57, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 
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# <font color="Green">★</font> [[User:Starstuff|<font face="Times" color="green">S</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">t</font><font face="Times" color="green">a</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">r</font><font face="Times" color="green">s</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">t</font><font face="Times" color="green">u</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">f</font><font face="Times" color="green">f</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Starstuff|<font face="Times" color="darkgreen">(Owl me!)</font>]]</sup> 14:51, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
 
# -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;"> '''Seth Cooper''' </font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> '''owl post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 18:50, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
 
# [[User:Harry granger|Harry granger]] 18:42, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
===Young Riddle image (+0)===
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[[User:Jdogno7|Jdogno7]] ([[User talk:Jdogno7|talk]]) 04:08, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
===Comments===
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:Irrelevant. The fact the people use the title to refer to him is all that matters. This is about what he is called, not what he would write on a government form. Remember that he never got a legal name change to Voldemort either, so you could just as easily complain about calling him Voldemort as you could about calling him Lord. [[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 04:10, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
What do you think this new image (New image OotP)?
 
I think best represents the character, rather than the current one in which appear the three toms and may confuse visitors.[[User:Pol 871|Pol 871]] 18:41, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
 
:I think we need to be looking at a ''Deathly Hallows'' image. Maybe this one (New image DH)? [[User:Jayden Matthews|Jayden Matthews]] 15:08, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
::Well, i think, that a HBP-picture of Tom Riddle would be preferable. Why not this one (Young Riddle Image)?
 
:::Because it doesn´t show his most recent appearance. The picture on the left seems acceptable to me.--[[User:Rodolphus|Rodolphus]] 14:49, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::Why would a picture of him at the age of sixteen be preferable to a picture of him at his current age of seventy one? [[User:Jayden Matthews|Jayden Matthews]] 15:08, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::In my opinopn, it isn´t.--[[User:Rodolphus|Rodolphus]] 15:18, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::::Agreed. [[User:Jayden Matthews|Jayden Matthews]] 15:53, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::::I think we should put the Deathly Hallows image as it is chronologically the last (actually I guess he is in his last minutes). --[[User:El Profeta Vespertino|El Profeta Vespertino]] 12:50, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::::::I think that this image is the best (New image DH).[[User:Pol 871|Pol 871]] 19:32, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::::::Without a doubt. [[User:Jayden Matthews|Jayden Matthews]] 22:19, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::::::When voting closes?[[User:Pol 871|Pol 871]] 14:58, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 
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==Etymology==
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Not always. Albus Dumbledore has also referred to him as simply Voldemort as well. He doesn't hate him, he pities him, knowing his past: his mother dying after giving birth, being abandoned by his father before birth, being conceived under the effects of a love potion. That doesn't meant that Dumbledore will stand idly by when he can stop Voldemort's evil actions however.
The etymology section should be re-ordered. The long paragraph in which all of the various possibilities are discussed is fascinating, but since all of the evidence points to the name simply being the French, "Flight from death", this should be the first suggestion. [[User:Azraphon|Azraphon]] 06:36, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
Flight OF death. Not FROM death
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[[User:Jdogno7|Jdogno7]] ([[User talk:Jdogno7|talk]]) 04:49, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
Also, "Tom Marvolo Riddle" is an anagram for "I am Lord Voldemort." Tom demonstrates this in Chamber of Secrets.
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:The fact that Dumbledore doesn't use his full name in every single instance doesn't make it not his name. Nor do I see how Dumbledore's opinions on Voldemort are relevant. [[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 04:19, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Years of death and born ==
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Well people can give themselves names without being accused of self-aggrandizing. Titles are different: there is nothing to support his proclamation of him being a Lord.
   
Since Hagrid was expailed from school because of Tom Riddle and Hagrid is born in the 1940's so Riddle can't be born in 1926.
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[[User:Jdogno7|Jdogno7]] ([[User talk:Jdogno7|talk]]) 05:29, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
Secoundly Tom ain't 72 when in dies in 1997.. But only around 50
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What are you saying in the response above? I'm a little confused. Are you referring to Dumbledore or Riddle/Voldemort?
   
::Actually, Hagrid was expelled in 1942 ("fifty years ago" in 1992), not born then. In 1942 he was thirteen, so Hagrid was born in 1929. Riddle was three years older than him, so he was born in 1926. --[[User:Parodist|Parodist]] 15:48, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
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[[User:Jdogno7|Jdogno7]] ([[User talk:Jdogno7|talk]]) 05:32, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
::Actually Hagrid was born in 1928, but his birthday was before riddle opened the chamber [[User:Slyhades99|Slyhades99]] 18:28, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
==Behind the scenes==
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:In response to your first comment, he is not claiming to be a "Lord" in the official sense. This is about what he is called, and he is called "Lord Voldemort". Also, yes, Voldemort is self-aggrandizing; it doesn't make it any less of his name though. He is not a Lord in the way you are thinking of, but it is still a part of his name.
Why isn't Ralph Fiennes mentioned? He did play Voldemort in the most films. I think Richard Bremmer deserves a mention, too.
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:In response to your second comment, I was saying that Dumbledore calling Voldemort simply "Voldemort" in some instances has no bearing on what his complete name is (which is "Lord Voldemort"). [[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:38, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
==eyes==
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Voldemort IS HIS chosen NAME. LORD is merely HIS CHOSEN TITLE. He refers to himself as Lord to make himself sound to be of aristocratic heritage. He IS referring to himself as a Lord in the official sense but in reality he is not. It's a façade of elitism. Titles and names are different things.
in the fourth film, when voldemort opens his eyes after turning human, he does have snake eyes before quickly turning normal. this is said on wikipedia as well, we should put on the article. ---- 16:34, july 30th, 2010.
 
   
can someone please agree with me, because I want some support behind this before I put it on the page. --- 15:26, august 5th, 2010.
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[[User:Jdogno7|Jdogno7]] ([[User talk:Jdogno7|talk]]) 05:54, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
:Compleatly correct, voldemort's eyes are really red, slited eyes. but in the movie adaptation they made the mistake of making eyes more human.
 
   
== 17 ==
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"Lord Voldemort" is grounded in the books canon, Jdogno; your opinions are not. [[User talk:MinorStoop|<font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="red">MinorStoop</font></font>]] 06:33, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
He was seventeen when he opened the Chamber of Secrets. {{unsigned|109.57.16.255}}
 
   
:No he wasn't. He was born on 31 December 1926. As the attacks were sometime before June 13, 1943, he was at the time a 16-year-old, some six months away from his 17th birthday. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 19:54, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
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Not explicitly at least. Well we can refer to him as Lord Voldemort in some instances and simply Voldemort in others, both are correct.
   
Why did the 16-year-old [[Tom Riddle]] in [[Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince]] not looks like the 16-year-old Tom Riddle in the memory in [[Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets]], then?? {{unsigned|109.57.16.255}}
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[[User:Jdogno7|Jdogno7]] ([[User talk:Jdogno7|talk]]) 07:22, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
:Because they were played by different actors. [[Christian Coulson]], the actor who played Riddle in ''Chamber of Secrets'' was 31 years-old at the time they shot ''Half-Blood Prince''. As such, they hired the younger [[Frank Dillane]] to play the part. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 21:27, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
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Only Dumbledore and Harry - who are ''not'' frightened of him - call him Voldemort. Everyone is "My Lord", "He who must not be named"/"You-know-who", "The Dark Lord" or "Lord Voldemort". --[[User:HarryPotterRules1|HarryPotterRules1]] ([[User talk:HarryPotterRules1|talk]]) 04:38, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
But why did they not ''make'' him looks like the first Tom Riddle. [[Albus Dumbledore]] in his OLD time was also played by two different actors. But Dumbledore 1 and Dumbledore 2 looks like each other.
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Also, we do not know if Voldemort's ancestors are nobility or aristocratic. The second (and latter) sons of anything lower than a Duke - Earl, Viscount, Baron, etc. - are, according to Debrett's (which ''would'' apply to Voldemort's paternal ancestry), only known as "Mr", which Thomas Riddle is. Thus, the family ''could'' be aristocratic, just not the first in line.--[[User:HarryPotterRules1|HarryPotterRules1]] ([[User talk:HarryPotterRules1|talk]]) 20:02, June 27, 2014 (UTC)
   
:Because they couldn't. There are two much facial/physical differences to the two actors. Either way, this does not prove or disprove anything, because the books say he was 16 and not 17. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 22:01, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
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== My [[Lord Voldemort]] Nightmare ([[Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (film)|Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone]] ==
   
Yes, but he is 17. He was born 1926, and opened the Chamber of Secrets in 1943. If you looks at a calculator, and say 26 + 17 = 43, if you say 26 + 16 it is = 42. {{Unsigned|109.57.126.108}}
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I'm not sure what it was but there was something about him that gave me nightmares in 2004 (the first number of times I watched the film) and again in 2007 (when I went back and unsuccessfully tried to overcome the thing about him that gave me the nightmares). I didn't bother watching that scene again until 2008 when I found I'd overcome this sort of nightmare.
   
:He was born on New Years Eve. He didn't turn 17 until Dec. 31st, 1943. [[Special:Contributions/70.242.114.248|70.242.114.248]] 09:02, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
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In 2004 I actually saw Voldemort lying in a chair (his eyes were open but he wasn't moving - so he wasn't awake). Of course he wasn't really there - I must have just been seeing things.
:I did some research on here and looked up tom, he was b. 1926 and i looked up 1940's and itr said the chamber was opened in 1942. he was sixteen. you dont believe me, look up tom, 1940s and use a calculator. [[User:Slyhades99|Slyhades99]] 12:04, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Excuse me, but Tom M. Riddle started Hogwarts in 1938 at eleven years old, at least that is stated on this site if I'm not wrong, but as he was born in 1926 this doesn't make sense so the whole Tom Riddle page is wrong, but it's also locked for changes. The Chamber of Secrets was opened in 1942 by Riddle in his fifth year, stated by J.K. Rowling herself on Wikipedia and on the 1940s page on here. So Riddle would be fifteen when The Chamber of Secrets was opened according to this wikia. Also Hagrid was in his third year when that happened as he told Harry, Ron and Hermione that he was expelled at 13. Could anyone enlighten me on if Riddle started Hogwarts at 1938 or 1937?
 
:[[User:Alicelouise1|Alicelouise1]] 14:35, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
:::He was born on new years eve 1926, the next day (new years) it became 1927. So the year he turned 11 was 1937 (26 +11), the next day it became 1938. Since you must be 11 to start Hogwarts, he started september 1st 1938 (as he wasn't yet 11 in september 1937) and turned 12 over the christmas holidays that same year.
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The Voldemort in [[Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (film)|Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire]] obviously lacked the "scary" thing about the first one because I never got nightmares from that version. '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 04:34, May 13, 2014 (UTC)
   
::**year 1 1938 - 1939 (11 - 12)
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==Garbagets advocates for a less cluttered Personality and Traits section==
::**year 2 1939 - 1940 (12 - 13)
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I did an edit of April 21 in which I reorganized the "Personality and traits" section into four subheadings, "Personality and psychology", "Social situation", "Ideology", and "Throughout his lifetime". 
::**year 3 1940 - 1941 (13 - 14)
 
::**year 4 1941 - 1942 (14 - 15)
 
::**'''year 5 1942 - 1943 (15 - 16)'''
 
::**year 6 1943 - 1944 (16 - 17)
 
::**year 7 1944 - 1945 (17 - 18)
 
:::And for all the other talk of dates and ages; Chamber of Secrets took place 1992 - 1993, they say in the book several times that it was last opened fifty years prior. 1992 - 50 = 1942. So his school years and ages in them would be like this:
 
   
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I submit that the way the section is currently laid out is so disorganized and rambling that the reader's eyes would glaze over. If you don't like my headings, then fine, but use *some* means of organization or the thing keels under its own weight. Speaking of which, my revisions sought to include all material from the previous text that was relevant and correct, and I don't see the need to have crammed all the old text, even the redundant parts, back in. All in all, I find the old text poor in style, quality, and comprehensibility, and advise that it be done away with entirely. If you feel there is information missed in my April 21 revision, feel free to add it under the correct heading. 
   
:::Tom Riddle would have started his fifth school year in 1942 at 15 and then returned after the holidays in 1943 at 16. He was not 17 until the christmas holidays of his 6th year.
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Also, someone deleted two of my claims. My evidence that Voldemort was not ashamed of his half-blood origins and even wore it as a badge of pride is derived from the fourth book, when Voldemort gave his followers assembled in the graveyard a true account of who his father had been, all without a trace of shame or self-conflict over his half-blood status. My evidence that Voldemort merely used, and was truly apathetic towards, the cause of pure-blood supremacy abounds in all the books. I think that's a deeply important point about Voldemort. *He wasn't a true believer in the ideology that coalesced around him*. He was a cynic who couldn't care less about the 'cause', he only saw its usefulness to himself. 
   
:::So, if Tom Riddle opened the chamber the 2nd half of the school year during his 5th year, it would have been 1943 and he would have been 16 years old. [[User:Touj0urspur|Touj0urspur]] 18:35, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
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Sincerely, 
   
:::Yeah, I realized later I made a mistake, thanks for pointing it out clearly though! You're absolutely right, haha I was confused! [[User:Alicelouise1|Alicelouise1]] 18:54, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
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[[User:Garbage3ts|Garbage3ts]] ([[User talk:Garbage3ts|talk]]) 21:20, June 23, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Wands ==
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== Sr. Jr. ==
   
If the Elder wand is going to be listed as one Voldemort's wands, despite it never "choosing" him, shouldn't Lucius Malfoy's wand be listed there as well? --[[User:EmmyG|EmmyG]] 11:58, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
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Voldemort's father is Tom Riddle Sr. How come we have Sr. but no Jr.? It's ridiculous. [[User:AB Ng|<span style="color:00BFFF"><font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="00BFFF">AB Ng</font></font></span>]] [[User talk:AB Ng|<span style="border:2px outset white;"><font face="Comic Sans MS"><font size="3" color="#9400D3">Talk</font></font></span>]] 04:35, July 13, 2014 (UTC)
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: If I remember correctly, Voldemort was never directly referred to as "Tom Riddle Jr", so the suffix is unnecessary when referring to him; 'Tom Riddle' is sufficient. --<span style="border: 2px blue solid; background-color: blue;">[[User:Cubs Fan2007|<font face="Gisha" color="red">'''Cubs Fan'''</font>]] [[User talk:Cubs Fan2007|<font face="Gisha" color="white">'''(Talk to me)'''</font>]]</span> 19:20, July 14, 2014 (UTC)
   
I agree. All of the wands ''used'' by Tom Riddle should be there but we have to know they were only used.
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: There is a pretty simple reason for this.  During the time Voldemort used the name "Tom Riddle", hardly anyone knew that there was a "Tom Riddle, Sr."  The matron of the orphanage knew roughly the father's name, but since it was an ''orphanage'' almost certainly assumed the father was dead.  Dumbledore was told the story of this birth, but again, at that time, almost certainly did not know the father was still alive, thus there was no need to introduce him to the magical world as "Tom Riddle, ''Jr.''"  Voldemort himself did not know his father was alive until he visited the Gaunt shack - and according to what he said in the Chamber of Secrets, he took the name Voldemort immediately after this.  So, essentially, no one ever knew there was a living "Tom Riddle, Sr." which would cause them to even consider calling him "Tom Riddle, Jr." [[User:Wva|Wva]] ([[User talk:Wva|talk]]) 17:42, July 30, 2014 (UTC)
   
Yeah...but once he use it ( since Riddle is a more powerful wizard ) it broke cause the wand was too weak for his powers. [[User:Speedysnitch|Speedysnitch]] 13:39, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
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== Move to Voldemort? ==
   
I thought it was because Harry's wand shot that "golden fire" stuff at it and it broke? I don't think it was because Voldemort was too awesomely awesome to use such a noob wand (though it's not impossible, since Voldemort IS awesomely awesome and Lucius Malfoy is a noob ;D). [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 21:58, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
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I know this topic has probably been brought up an exhausting number of times, but it's been about a year, so hey, why not revisit it? Moving this page to [[Voldemort]] makes a lot of sense. I'm aware that this wiki's [[Harry_Potter_Wiki:Policy#Naming_of_articles|article-naming policy]] dictates that first and last names should be used instead of nicknames, but "Voldemort" is definitely more than a nickname. Voldemort completely dropped the name "Tom Riddle" in his youth, and was only ever well-known in the Wizarding World as Voldemort. He never signed any papers in a court, but I don't think that's necessary to say that his name change was, for all intents and purposes, official. People who knew of Voldemort's past, such as Albus Dumbledore, may have referred to Voldemort as "Tom" from time to time, but this usage was hardly ever used, and even when it was, it was made in reference to Voldemort's past, before he had any real significance. Titling this article as "Tom Riddle" is also at odds with the fact that the majority of the content in the article uses the name "Voldemort" instead. I'm not advocating for a site-wide policy change or anything; in fact, a move in this instance would be compatible with the existing policies. Food for thought. {{User:C Teng/sig}} 08:08, July 30, 2014 (UTC)
 
== Theo Kypri ==
 
 
Hi, I have a question. There is an article about Theo Kypri where it is said that he made a stunt for Voldemort. When I open the source: [[http://www.starwarsautographcollecting.com/Autographs/HarryPotter/TheoKypri.htm]] There you can see Voldemort in the scene with the dead unicorn in the Forbidden Forest. I think this photo would be useful for the Voldemort site. What would you think about this suggestion? [[User:Harry granger|Harry granger]] 19:46, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Timelines, Albus, Tom, James ==
 
 
headboys in school are changed every year. beeing a 7th year student. and according to the article that head boy before tom riddle, was albus dumbledore. witch is compleately incorrect. cause dumbledore was headboy atleaset 50 years ago.
 
 
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:That's why the Succession Box says "'''Unknown'''" and "'''Eventually'''". Dumbledore was the last ''known'' Head Boy before Riddle, and James was the last ''known'' Head Boy after him. Those who came between have not yet been identified. - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 09:07, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Editing page ==
 
 
[[User:Joseph Laforest|Joseph Laforest]] 22:02, November 27, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
==Intellect==
 
Do you think we could add something about his intellect? It seems that Dumbledore, Grindelwald, and even Hermione have intellect mentioned under their abilities. It seems to me that Voldemort is on a level with Dumbledore and Grindelwald, who both have genius-level intellects.
 
 
I like this idea. Voldemort should be given credit for his intelligence as well. He is not just highly intelligent, he is genius. {{unsigned|108.18.168.206|03:08, December 3, 2010}}
 
 
==James Potter's classmate?==
 
hey I wonder if tom riddle went to howwarts with james potter {{unsigned|70.17.233.92}}
 
 
:They weren't classmates: Riddle attended Hogwarts from 1938 to 1945 and James from 1971 to 1978. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 17:59, December 19, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:If they were classmates they probably be worst enemies with him and snape cause they are both slytherin and snape use to be an death eater so....yeah [[User:Speedysnitch|Speedysnitch]] 02:16, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Voldemort's "Also known as." ==
 
 
* Lord Voldemort [1]
 
* Voldemort
 
* You-Know-Who [2]
 
* Thomas Marvolo Riddle Jr. [3]
 
* He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named [4]
 
* The Dark Lord[5]
 
* Lord Thingy [6]
 
* Lord Thing
 
* Lord Voldything
 
* Master
 
* Your Lordship[7]
 
* Chief Death Eater
 
* Heir of Slytherin [8]
 
* Voldy [9]
 
* Voltapolt (Sirius Black said)
 
 
I honestly think we can do without
 
 
- Lord Thingy
 
- Lord Thing
 
- Lord Voldything
 
- Chief Death Eater
 
 
I think Harry's uncle said Lord Thingy, Lord Thing or Lord Voldything, forgot.... [[User:Speedysnitch|Speedysnitch]] 01:13, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== age??? ==
 
any idea as to what was voldemorts age before he was completely killed? [[User:Jin kazama7|Jin kazama7]] 07:55, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
 
:The infobox says 71. But if you mean when he lost power on 10/31/1981 than he was (about) 54 years old. --[[User:KiumaruHamachi|KiumaruHamachi]] 11:24, April 19, 2011 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 
Man, he is flippen old, 71 he could of die out... looks like he is....40..nooo...I don't really know, what age do you think he looks like? [[User:Speedysnitch|Speedysnitch]] 01:16, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
==Lede description of Tom Sr.==
 
In the lede, Tom Sr. is described as "a wealthy Muggle who abandoned his wife," which I find problematic. I think Tom Sr.'s actions need to be considered in the context of what Merope did to him: drugged him with [[Love Potion]] and him forced to enter into a marriage, and, obviously (from Tom Jr.'s existence), to consummate it. Tom Sr. was a victim, and, from his perspective, leaving Merope must have been simply getting away from the person who'd harmed him, not abandoning his wife and shirking the responsibilities of impending fatherhood. <font color="Green">★</font> [[User:Starstuff|<font face="Times" color="green">S</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">t</font><font face="Times" color="green">a</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">r</font><font face="Times" color="green">s</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">t</font><font face="Times" color="green">u</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">f</font><font face="Times" color="green">f</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Starstuff|<font face="Times" color="darkgreen">(Owl me!)</font>]]</sup> 09:34, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
I think Starstuff is right. Without that background he is a scoundrel, with that background he is a victim. I think Merope didn't thought of that, didn't feel so, because she loved him, but it fatally remembers me of stalker and - sorry - yes - also of rape, but in this case to a man instead a woman. [[User:Harry granger|Harry granger]] 18:51, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
It says on the DH part 1 page that Christian Coulson (the guy from COS) is in a flashback in the seventh movie. does anyone know what/when it is?````jpc
 
 
== Christian Coulson in DH Part 1? ==
 
 
It says on the DH part 1 page that Christian Coulson (the guy from COS) is in a flashback in the seventh movie. does anyone know what/when it is?[[Special:Contributions/67.253.254.189|67.253.254.189]] 04:31, May 14, 2011 (UTC)jpc
 
 
I'm not sure when exactly, but probably during dreams or visions of Voldemort that Harry has. You can only see the light bursting through him as Harry destroys the diary Horcrux.
 
 
== Incorrect date ==
 
 
This article claims that Voldemort applied for the Defense Against the Dark Arts job on the 10th of November 1971. This simply cannot be true. Dumbledore says that Voldemort applied for the job 10 years after he murdered Hepzibah Smith. He murdered her when he was 18, which would make him roughly 28 (depending on the date) at the time of his application. He graduated from Hogwarts in 1945, so as you can see, these dates simply don't match up. And as the article is protected, someone else will have to fix it. [[Special:Contributions/86.166.43.107|86.166.43.107]] 18:13, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
*Born - [[December 31]], [[1926]]
 
*Started Hogwarts - [[September 1]] [[1938]] (age 12)
 
*Opened the Chamber of Secrets - [[1942]] (age 16)
 
*Came of Age - [[December 31]], [[1943]] (age 17)
 
*Graduated from Hogwarts - Summer, [[1945]] (age 18)
 
*Murdered Hepzibah Smith, [[1945]] (age 18)
 
*Applied for the DATDA job - Winter, [[1955]] (age 28)
 
 
: Well one thing is absolutely certain and that is that he can not have applied for the job in 28/29 and he can not have murdered Hepzibah smith in 18/19 because it just can't. If he did, he would have been older than 90 years when he died and that is not correct so I think you are definitely right. <sub>—</sub>[[File:German eagle logo.Png|31px]] [[User:Firefox1095|<font face="Vivaldi" size="4" color="Black">&nbsp;Firefox1095&nbsp;</font>]] [[File:German eagle logo.Png|31px]]<sub>—</sub> 22:15, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
You misunderstand me. He applied for the job when we was '''28 years old''' in '''1955'''. Not in '''1971''' as the article claims. [[Special:Contributions/86.166.43.107|86.166.43.107]] 09:06, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Can somebody please fix this. I can't as the article is protected. [[Special:Contributions/86.166.43.107|86.166.43.107]] 10:07, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:You have a point. I removed it. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 15:53, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:Might be a silly question, but aren't kids 11 when they first start Hogwarts? Why was Riddle a year older? [[User:Alicelouise1|Alicelouise1]] 14:37, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:Also it says on the Tom Riddle page that he opened the Chamber of Secrets in 1943 whilst it was 1942. Could this be changed any way? It's quite confusing. [[User:Alicelouise1|Alicelouise1]] 14:39, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== OWL/NEWT Score? ==
 
 
Okay, I am not sure about this one, but I seem to remember that in the Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, when Hermione researched about a boy named Tom Marvolo Riddle, there was mentioning about his brief history in Hogwarts. I seem to remember her mentioning his OWL score, though it never mentions which subjects. I remember Ronald Weasley saying that he is just like Percy and Hermione was a bit hurt by that... ..And there is no mention of Tom Riddle's OWL/NEWT score in the article, it seems. Can anyone check this out?
 
 
I am unsure whether it actually mentioned the results, or just said that he probably got a lot because he was headboy and got special award for the service to school, and I can't check it now because my cousin borrowed my copy and went aboard for vacation... [[Special:Contributions/114.79.52.55|114.79.52.55]] 04:30, May 29, 2011 (UTC)Kainey
 
 
== Etymology ==
 
 
It's written that Vol De Mort means Flight From Death. It's incorrect, because it's the translator took the litteral wording without considering french gramatical structure. Vol De Mort would correctly mean Flight OF death, not FROM death
 
 
==Hair==
 
What happened to Voldemort's hair? (Just asking)
 
 
Shaved it. <span style="background-color:Red; border:4px ridge Green;"> [[User:Arceus The God of Pokemon|<span style="color:Purple;">'''I am the God of Pokemon!!!!!!'''</span>]] </span> 03:46, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
lost it in a tragic snake human breeding accident! 01:43, March 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I think all the horcruxes had an affec on his appearance {{Unsigned|108.7.207.239}}
 
 
==Does Possession Make you Look Like the Thing You Possess??==
 
I was just a-thinkin', does possessing people make you look like the person you possessed? Because when the Dark Lord was possessing Quirrell, he was the same colour of Quirrell's skin, plus he had a nose! He looked human. However, when Voldemort was possessing snakes in the Albanian forest, the last thing he had possessed were snakes, therefore he now looks like a snake. Am i right??
 
 
I don't think he had a nose when he was inside Quirrell. He had one in the film, but he may or may not have had one in the book; plus, this was before he was reborn and before he was in his rudementary body. As for the snake thing, as far as I know, he looks like a snake because Nagini's venom was part of the rudimentary potion that he took to get his body, and he was fed the venom after it was milked while ''in'' that body. [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 05:48, July 19, 2011 (UTC)AlastorMoody
 
 
== Common name ==
 
 
Okay, now I know that this site isn't Wikipedia, but I think that the philosophy of [[Wikipedia:WP:COMMONNAME]] is pretty valid, at least in this case. No one calls Voldemort Tom Riddle anymore. Sure, he may not have gone into a court and had his name changed legally (at least not to my knowledge), but it's a different name nevertheless. Proposal: Move Tom Riddle to [[Voldemort]]. {{User:C Teng/sig}} 01:06, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
*Also, just because I know I'll be getting these arguments later, I'll present these counterarguments now:
 
**Just because [[Albus Dumbledore|one guy in the world]] calls Voldemort Tom '''from time to time''' does not mean that that's how he should be known by that name everywhere. Just like how the title for [[Harry Potter]] isn't Barry Weasley.
 
**Just because Rowling says "Tom Riddle hit the floor..." at the end of ''Deathly Hallows'' does not mean that that is the name he went by at the time of his death. That would be taking it far too literally. {{User:C Teng/sig}} 01:18, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
None of this changes the fact that his name is Tom Riddle. Most people don't call him Voldemort anyway. Most people call him You Know Who or He Who Must Not Be Named, but I assume that you wouldn't suggest that we move the page to one of those names.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 05:58, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
*True, it doesn't change the fact that Tom Riddle is his '''given name'''. But once again... [[Wikipedia:WP:COMMONNAME]]. {{User:C Teng/sig}} 18:34, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:Icecreamdif's argument is pretty convincing. Even if we were to follow the Wikipedia "Common Name" guideline, "Voldemort" is hardly Riddle's "common name" among British wizardkind. And to change the article title to "He Who Must Not Be Named" is, frankly, ludicrous. I'm for keeping the article title as it is. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 19:07, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
::One more thing - we almost never refer to Voldemort as "Tom Riddle" on this wiki. Just look at this page. He is alnost always referred to as Voldemort. Do you suggest changing this, too? {{User:C Teng/sig}} 15:52, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:::Not necessarily, he ''can'' be referred to by whichever name, although "Voldemort", "Lord Voldemort" and "Tom Riddle" are usually preferred. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 16:04, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Top Quote ==
 
 
I have yet to read the book of ''Deathley Hallows'' but a friend told me that the quote featured at the top of this page was indeed said by Voldemort in the text, or maybe it was something similar. In any case I have reason to believe this was not just from Part 2 and should not be sourced from that film as thus. Unless, of course, we have to change the quote to whatever it actually is in the book? Otherwise I'd think we just list the book as the source. Forgive me if I'm at all mistaken. --[[User:Mateo22|<b><span style="color: red">Mateo22</span></b>]]<sup> [[File:Avada_Kedavra.jpg|20px]][[User talk:Mateo22|<b><span style="color: red">Contact</span></b>]]</sup> 06:53, July 15, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
I recently read the book and Voldemort, as far as I can remember, does not say anything about how only he can live forever. [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 05:51, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Tom Riddle/Thomas Riddell ==
 
 
It says that the inspiration for Tom Riddle comes from a man buried in Greyfriars named Tom Riddle. This man's name is actually Thomas Riddell so it should be updated to that.
 
 
== Lord Voldemort & Lord Vader ==
 
 
Are Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort and Anakin Skywalker/Lord Vader compareable?
 
 
Tom Riddle, at a very young age, was "found" by Dumbledore as Anakin was found by Qui Gon Jinn, in almost the same age. They both grew in life to superior beings, but also were very talented as kids. And both became evil Lords, '''BECAUSE '''of "Love": Tom Riddle couldn't love, what caused him to become the Dark Lord; Anakin wasn't allowed to love, but he did love, what caused him to the Dark Side. And their both "masters" (Dumbledore; Obi Wan Kenobi) were "killed" (indirectly) by their former apprentices, furthermore their masters sacrificied themselves.
 
 
Maybe there is another point: they both were "reborn", in some way at least. And even more: what causes them to almost die, is that they had a "vision" (Padmé dying) or "prophicy" (the One Boy).
 
 
Finally both were overcome by even stronger, good sided, beings, indirectly: Lord Voldemort "killed himself", Lord Vader was killed through the Imperator.
 
 
PS: both were ugly as hell.
 
 
:So what? Unless you can find a source from J.K Rowling or something, we can't add this to the article. I can say that Lord Voldemort is like Michael Jackson. They both have creepy pale skin, have weird things going on with their noses, and committed terrible crimes against children. Without some kind of source, however, I can't put that in the article, and these talk pages are for talking about '''the article'''.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 19:02, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
==Tom Riddle Jr.?==
 
I know that Voldemort's father was named Tom Riddle, and his name on his page says Tom Riddle Sr., and so he must be a senior of someone (Voldemort, whose name is Tom Riddle). Does this mean that Voldemort is a junior, even though the article doesn't say it? Just want this cleared up, it's a bit confusing since his father is senior and his son who has the same name isn't junior. [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 22:02, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
==Image change==
 
I honestly don't think we need to change the image, but for some reason I think we could vote to change it. I like the current image, but to me it doesn't have that pizzazz that is Lord Voldemort needed for the main image. Just so I can try and contribute, I thought I'd put in my own candidate for the infobox image.
 
 
If someone would like to put in their own candidates, feel free. :) --[[Image:CJSFan Sig.png|link=User:CJSFan|75px]]<sup>''[[User talk:CJSFan|Black Pearl]]'', ''[[w:c:pirates:User talk:CJSFan/Archives|HMS Interceptor]]'', ''[[w:c:pirates:User talk:CJSFan/Free Discussion|Queen Anne's Revenge]]''</sup> 02:42, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
The third one (image 2) is absolutely awesome, way better than the two option... Change it to that! . :) -- [[User:ImperiexSeed|ImperiexSeed]], 10:50 PM, August 4th 2011
 
 
I like the middle one (image 1). Not sure, but I do think it's time for a new one... a better one. [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 02:59, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
See '''[[Forum:Post-DH2 infobox images]]''' - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 14:58, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== The Elder wand was never Voldemort's!!! ==
 
 
The Elder wand was never actually Voldemort's, because Draco Malfoy dis-armed dumble door the elder wand became his thus, the wand was never Severus Snape's thefore Voldemort killing Snape meant the wand still didn't become his, it was actually Harry's Wand after he dis armed draco
 
 
I think we have come to that conclusion.... [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 03:00, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
The translation for Voldemort Den Store would be Voldemort The Great, not Voldemort The Fantastic. If he was called Voldemort The Fantastic in Norwegian, it would be Voldemort Den Fantastiske. ~~ Regards, [[User:TardirProductions|Tardir]][[User talk:TardirProductions|Productions]] 15:48, August 19, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Here's a mistake ==
 
 
I wanna talk about the Russian adaptation of Voldemort's name. It is not TOM YARVOLO REDDL (= YA LORD VOLDEMORT), it's TOM NARVOLO REDDL (LORD VOLAN-DE-MORT) = ТОМ НАРВОЛО РЕДДЛ (= ЛОРД ВОЛАН-ДЕ-МОРТ)
 
 
 
Arthur from Spb, Russia [[Special:Contributions/89.110.16.98|89.110.16.98]] 18:13, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== I just realized something! ==
 
 
Seeing as Riddle sr. and Merope weren't married when she had Voldemort, wouldn't Voldemort's name be Tom Gaunt? -[[User: HoboHunter28|HoboHunter28]]- ([[User_Talk: HoboHunter28|Leave me an owl!]]) 19:20, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Merope died after giving birth but before her death she had time to give to Voldemort his dad's name (Tom Riddle)
 
 
Arthur [[Special:Contributions/89.110.7.158|89.110.7.158]] 10:34, August 28, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:Tom and Merope WERE married. He'd left her, but it never says they were officially divorced. {{Unsigned|12.198.157.85}}
 
 
==Infobox image vote==
 
 
'''[[Forum:Post-DH2 infobox images#Tom Riddle]]'''
 
 
Follow the link. Nominations are still open. Voting starts in 3 days. - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 14:53, August 26, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Grammar and writing ==
 
 
The grammar/writing style of a good deal of this article is quite unacceptable, especially for a featured article. Who has editing rights?
 
 
 
 
 
== Ability to love via Love Potion ==
 
 
Isn't the assumption that Voldemort cannot understand love just fanon? It's sourced as coming from Jo Rowlings website but I have been through the text-only version of that and at least three webchat transcripts and cannot find a soure at all.
 
 
The most I've found is where she says that his being concieved under one is 'a symbolic way of showing he came from a loveless union.' she then goes to say that had his mother [merope] lived to love and raise him herself everything would have changed. ([http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2007/7/30/j-k-rowling-web-chat-transcript source chat] )
 
 
Isn't that directly defying the idea that he cannot love because of the nature of his conception?
 
 
[[User:Touj0urspur|Touj0urspur]] 09:43, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
: The ''fact'' that he cannot understand love comes, I believe, from [[Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows#Chapter 35: King's Cross|Chapter 35]] in ''Deathly Hallows''; it's mentioned by Dumbledore. Based on that, the assumption about the love potion is just that - an assumption, and a logical one to boot. So while ''I'' don't think it's fanon, that's just one person's opinion. --<span style="border: 2px blue solid; background-color: blue;">[[User:Cubs Fan2007|<font face="Gisha" color="red">'''Cubs Fan'''</font>]] [[User talk:Cubs Fan2007|<font face="Gisha" color="white">'''(Talk to me)'''</font>]]</span> 12:39, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
::: Are you talking about this quote:'' "That which Voldemort does not value,''' he takes no trouble to comprehend'''. Of House-elves and children's tales, of love, loyalty, and innocence Voldemort knows and understands nothing."'' --? Because the first part is pretty much saying he only doesn't understand because he doesn't think it's important. Not that he literally cannot. And the chat I sourced, its the first one after the last book was released, so it isn't as if Jo said he could have loved and then changed her mind while writing.
 
 
::: And I respect your opinion, you can believe whatever you want, but shouldn't the'' ''wiki be about facts instead of opinions and assumptions, no matter how logical they are? Or at least state that they are those things so people don't go blindly beliving them. Even if others take that quote to mean that voldemort cannot love, that would be fine to keep in, but to say that it was ''because'' of the love potion is not fact at all and so I think it should be taken out.
 
::: [[User:Touj0urspur|Touj0urspur]] 20:17, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
 
:::
 
 
He is so amazing :)
 
 
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== After Hogwarts ==
 
 
Who says that he killed an Albanian to make the diadem into a horcrux? 18:43, October 11, 2011 (UTC) Sherlock
 
 
JK Rowling during a Bloomsbury Live Chat.... [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 23:36, November 28, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Kurtis Mc bride? ==
 
 
Who the hell is Kurtis Mc Bride?
 
 
==Fetus-Voldy in Limbo==
 
HOLY ******* MUSHROOMS?!?! Where did that super-ultra-mega-jumbo-extraordarily high quality photo of the fetus Voldy in Limbo come from??? Could we get more photos of that quality from ''Deathly Hallows: Part 2''?? [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 23:48, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Erm, why was "shiitake" starred-out? Shiitake is a kind of mushroom, for those of you who do not know... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiitake [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 02:02, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Mother from the Circus
 
 
One of the ideas that I had was whether to comment that the orphanage staff believed that Merope came from a circus. Do you think I should add that Riddle was told that his mother came from a circus until he was 11.
 
 
== um......how do people know he's 6'4"? ==
 
 
the infobox saids his HEIGHT! it saids he's 6'4" tall. how the hell does it fuckin know? it never sids anything in the book,he doesn't havae a actor,so how would you ever know? did you measurepixels on hte computer screen or something? {{Unsigned|64.175.32.208}}
 
 
:First of all, he does have an actor ([[Ralph Fiennes]]), but it can't even come from that because Ralph is 5'11", according to our page on him. This page is protected, but if one of admins who knows where Voldy's height is mentioned could cite the source for that when they get the time, it'd be wonderful. (Also, I changed your double single quotes to quotation marks for formatting reasons, hope you don't mind.) -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] ([[User_talk:1337star|talk]]) 20:02, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
==What spell==
 
 
[[File:Shadowspell.png|thumb|251px]][[File:ShadowspellOotP.png|thumb|251px]]That those spells is shown throwing a black force, like a smoke. I would like to know what kind and what spell is it. [[User:Dobby4ever|Dobby4ever]] 12:37, November 28, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Does the spell do anything but be a smokescreen (don't remember it)? Could be the [[Smokescreen Spell]] mentioned on Pottermore, or maybe he had some [[Peruvian Instant Darkness Powder]] on him for whatever reason. -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] ([[User_talk:1337star|talk]]) 17:31, November 28, 2011 (UTC)
 
:It seems likely that is it the Smokescreen Spell, it fits the little description it currently has. He also uses it on the Grand Staircase during his duel with Harry. --[[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 23:35, November 28, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:Do you think I ought to put a BTS mention on the [[Smokescreen Spell]] page that Voldemort could have used it? I could also put on an image, and could do the same for the [[Fumos]] and [[Fumos Duo]] pages. [[Special:Contributions/99.252.196.61|99.252.196.61]] 02:36, August 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Name==
 
 
I think that his name should be changed back to Lord Voldemort. It is similar to the dispute they had in Wookieepedia over Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker. I was a supporter of Anakin Skywalker because he died as Darth Vader and redeemed himself.
 
 
Lord Voldemort on the other hand refused to show remorse and died as Lord Voldemort, not Tom Marvolo Riddle. {{Unsigned|50.81.221.237}}
 
 
:No. Per our [[Harry Potter Wiki:Policy#Naming of articles|naming policy]], we use the full, legal first and last names of the article's subject: no titles or epithets are to be used (unless it's part of their name, such as [[Fingal the Fearless]]). -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] <sup>([[User_talk:1337star|Drop me a line!]])</sup> 00:36, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Purpose of name change? ==
 
 
What was the point of him changing his name to voldemort if he didn't want people to say it?
 
 
 
 
[[User:Hamza721|Hamza721]] ([[User talk:Hamza721|talk]]) 06:07, October 15, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Simple, because they could still think it and he was hoping that the fear of even the thought of it would have a powerful effect. [[User:ProfessorTofty|ProfessorTofty]] ([[User talk:ProfessorTofty|talk]]) 01:53, October 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Shoes or Shoesless ==
 
 
I'm not sure if this has been covered before but I'm convienced Voldemort did not wear shoes or any type of footwear after he returned to his body in ''Goblet of Fire.'' In two pictuers that depict The Dule in Little Hangleton and The Due in the Ministry Atrium, artwork based on that of Mary GrandPré, show Voldemort shoeless. While not clearly addressed in the movies I'm sure he did not wear shoes. He is clearly shoeless in the fourth movie and in the second half of Deathly Hallows, he is again shown shoeless in the scene where he walks among those he killed at Malfoy Mannor when he was told of the theft of Hufflepuff Cup. His feet get covered with blood. Why would he go alternate between wearing footwear and not? Pictuers taken between scenes do show Ralph Fiennes wearing slippers and while he most likely wore them during filming for comfort, his robes hidded them, I still think that in terms of the character, Voldemort didn't wear anytype of footwear. What do you think? [[User:Professor Ambrius|Professor Ambrius]] ([[User talk:Professor Ambrius|talk]]) 23:57, October 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Killed by Harry Potter / Tom Riddle ==
 
Is it really right to say that he was killed by Harry Potter ''or'' by himself? He was a victim of his own rebounding Killing Curse. [[User:ProfessorTofty|ProfessorTofty]] ([[User talk:ProfessorTofty|talk]]) 00:05, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:As you probably saw in my most recent edit, I think it was Harry that killed him, albeit unintentionally. The curse wouldn't have rebounded if Harry hadn't owned the Elder Wand. And Harry ''is'' the one who grabbed Draco's wand from him, so technically it's his fault he owns the wand and thus his fault Voldy died (at least, that's my take on the matter). --'''<span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:0.56cm;">[[User:Hunnie Bunn|<font face="Romance Fatal Serif Std" size="4" color="Red">"It is real, isn't it?"</font>]] [[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|<font face="Romance Fatal Serif Std" size="4" color="Black">"It's real for us."</font>]]</span>''' 00:12, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::I see your point, but it still doesn't really feel to me as if Harry killed him as such. I don't really have any strong feelings about it either way, though, so if anyone else wants to weigh in... [[User:ProfessorTofty|ProfessorTofty]] ([[User talk:ProfessorTofty|talk]]) 02:38, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::I think that if someone used a spell (particularly the Killing Curse) and that spell killed someone, then the caster is the one who did the killing, even if others used magic to redirect it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:06, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:Before anyone else raises the issue, I would like to point out that even if Voldy did kill himself using his own Curse (and I have no opinion either way), it wasn't suicide; that is when one intentionally kills oneself. Doing it accidentally, as in this case, is misadventure. — [[User:RobertATfm|RobertATfm]] ([[User_talk:RobertATfm|talk]]) 12:45, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Horcruxes and Old Age ==
 
 
I know Voldemort used Horcruxes to ensure his immortality and that wizards have extraordinarily long lifespans anyway, but do the Horcruxes prevent him from dying even of old age? [[Special:Contributions/68.99.140.120|68.99.140.120]] 20:46, April 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
:So long as those horcruxes remain, his soul remains tethered to life. However, that's not necessarily to say that his body wouldn't eventually age. At which point, of course, he could presumably just generate himself another body. Or posssess someone, or gain control of a Philosopher's Stone, or whatever other Dark means he might have for sustaining life. [[User:ProfessorTofty|ProfessorTofty]] ([[User talk:ProfessorTofty|talk]]) 20:50, April 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Year of birth contra graduation==
 
I read somwhere that Voldemort graduated in 1945, but in 1945, he would have been ninteen, and thus should have graduated in 1943. Given - of course, that he actually IS born in 1926. {{unsigned|80.203.81.78}}
 
 
:Voldemort was born on 31 December 1926, New Years' Eve. He turned eleven on 31 December 1937, but only started attending Hogwarts on 1 September 1938, 4 months away from his 12th birthday (since students start at Hogwarts on the September that follows their 11th birthday).
 
:So, his first year at Hogwarts was the 1938-1939 school year (during which he turned 12, on 31 December 1938), and his last year at Hogwarts was the 1944-1945 school year (during which he turned 18, on 31 December 1944).
 
:So, Voldemort was indeed born in 1926 (a day away from 1927), and graduated indeed in 1945, at age 18. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 13:40, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
 

Latest revision as of 17:43, July 30, 2014



Name Change Edit

I think that the name of this article should be changed to Voldemort. This is because that he is more commonly known as Voldemort rather than Tom Riddle. He tossed aside his birth name for a new one. Therefore wouldn't it be more suitable to use the name he goes by rather than a name he doesn't use anymore? Weirdo Guy (talk) 23:23, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

It is the policy of this wiki to use a character's legal first and last name. Voldemort was merely a title Tom Riddle took in his adult years. Changing this article's name would be a manner of changing policy, and thus a wider discussion than just this one article. -- 1337star (Drop me a line!) 23:49, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Technically Voldemort is an alias rather than a title. Dark Lord, Chief Death Eater, Heir of Slytherin: those are titles.

Jdogno7 (talk) 04:23, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Voldemort/Lord VoldemortEdit

Actually "Lord Voldemort" is better grounded in canon than just "Voldemort" - CoS movie level or higher. During the confrontation in the Chamber of Secrets, the sentence "I am Lord Voldemort" is shown to be the anagram of "Tom Marvolo Riddle". MinorStoop 07:45, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. Even Dumbledore, who pretty much hated him, called him "Lord Voldemort". Hunnie Bunn (talk) 01:16, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

Voldemort only calls himself a Lord to make himself appear to be an aristocratic elitist. He doesn't have aristocratic heritage on either side of his family not as far back as his grandparents at least.

Jdogno7 (talk) 04:08, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Irrelevant. The fact the people use the title to refer to him is all that matters. This is about what he is called, not what he would write on a government form. Remember that he never got a legal name change to Voldemort either, so you could just as easily complain about calling him Voldemort as you could about calling him Lord. SnorlaxMonster 04:10, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Not always. Albus Dumbledore has also referred to him as simply Voldemort as well. He doesn't hate him, he pities him, knowing his past: his mother dying after giving birth, being abandoned by his father before birth, being conceived under the effects of a love potion. That doesn't meant that Dumbledore will stand idly by when he can stop Voldemort's evil actions however.

Jdogno7 (talk) 04:49, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

The fact that Dumbledore doesn't use his full name in every single instance doesn't make it not his name. Nor do I see how Dumbledore's opinions on Voldemort are relevant. SnorlaxMonster 04:19, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Well people can give themselves names without being accused of self-aggrandizing. Titles are different: there is nothing to support his proclamation of him being a Lord.

Jdogno7 (talk) 05:29, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

What are you saying in the response above? I'm a little confused. Are you referring to Dumbledore or Riddle/Voldemort?

Jdogno7 (talk) 05:32, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

In response to your first comment, he is not claiming to be a "Lord" in the official sense. This is about what he is called, and he is called "Lord Voldemort". Also, yes, Voldemort is self-aggrandizing; it doesn't make it any less of his name though. He is not a Lord in the way you are thinking of, but it is still a part of his name.
In response to your second comment, I was saying that Dumbledore calling Voldemort simply "Voldemort" in some instances has no bearing on what his complete name is (which is "Lord Voldemort"). SnorlaxMonster 05:38, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Voldemort IS HIS chosen NAME. LORD is merely HIS CHOSEN TITLE. He refers to himself as Lord to make himself sound to be of aristocratic heritage. He IS referring to himself as a Lord in the official sense but in reality he is not. It's a façade of elitism. Titles and names are different things.

Jdogno7 (talk) 05:54, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

"Lord Voldemort" is grounded in the books canon, Jdogno; your opinions are not. MinorStoop 06:33, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Not explicitly at least. Well we can refer to him as Lord Voldemort in some instances and simply Voldemort in others, both are correct.

Jdogno7 (talk) 07:22, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Only Dumbledore and Harry - who are not frightened of him - call him Voldemort. Everyone is "My Lord", "He who must not be named"/"You-know-who", "The Dark Lord" or "Lord Voldemort". --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 04:38, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

Also, we do not know if Voldemort's ancestors are nobility or aristocratic. The second (and latter) sons of anything lower than a Duke - Earl, Viscount, Baron, etc. - are, according to Debrett's (which would apply to Voldemort's paternal ancestry), only known as "Mr", which Thomas Riddle is. Thus, the family could be aristocratic, just not the first in line.--HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 20:02, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

My Lord Voldemort Nightmare (Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone Edit

I'm not sure what it was but there was something about him that gave me nightmares in 2004 (the first number of times I watched the film) and again in 2007 (when I went back and unsuccessfully tried to overcome the thing about him that gave me the nightmares). I didn't bother watching that scene again until 2008 when I found I'd overcome this sort of nightmare.

In 2004 I actually saw Voldemort lying in a chair (his eyes were open but he wasn't moving - so he wasn't awake). Of course he wasn't really there - I must have just been seeing things.

The Voldemort in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire obviously lacked the "scary" thing about the first one because I never got nightmares from that version. C.Syde (talk | contribs) 04:34, May 13, 2014 (UTC)

Garbagets advocates for a less cluttered Personality and Traits sectionEdit

I did an edit of April 21 in which I reorganized the "Personality and traits" section into four subheadings, "Personality and psychology", "Social situation", "Ideology", and "Throughout his lifetime". 

I submit that the way the section is currently laid out is so disorganized and rambling that the reader's eyes would glaze over. If you don't like my headings, then fine, but use *some* means of organization or the thing keels under its own weight. Speaking of which, my revisions sought to include all material from the previous text that was relevant and correct, and I don't see the need to have crammed all the old text, even the redundant parts, back in. All in all, I find the old text poor in style, quality, and comprehensibility, and advise that it be done away with entirely. If you feel there is information missed in my April 21 revision, feel free to add it under the correct heading. 

Also, someone deleted two of my claims. My evidence that Voldemort was not ashamed of his half-blood origins and even wore it as a badge of pride is derived from the fourth book, when Voldemort gave his followers assembled in the graveyard a true account of who his father had been, all without a trace of shame or self-conflict over his half-blood status. My evidence that Voldemort merely used, and was truly apathetic towards, the cause of pure-blood supremacy abounds in all the books. I think that's a deeply important point about Voldemort. *He wasn't a true believer in the ideology that coalesced around him*. He was a cynic who couldn't care less about the 'cause', he only saw its usefulness to himself. 

Sincerely, 

Garbage3ts (talk) 21:20, June 23, 2014 (UTC)

Sr. Jr. Edit

Voldemort's father is Tom Riddle Sr. How come we have Sr. but no Jr.? It's ridiculous. AB Ng Talk 04:35, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, Voldemort was never directly referred to as "Tom Riddle Jr", so the suffix is unnecessary when referring to him; 'Tom Riddle' is sufficient. --Cubs Fan (Talk to me) 19:20, July 14, 2014 (UTC)
There is a pretty simple reason for this.  During the time Voldemort used the name "Tom Riddle", hardly anyone knew that there was a "Tom Riddle, Sr."  The matron of the orphanage knew roughly the father's name, but since it was an orphanage almost certainly assumed the father was dead.  Dumbledore was told the story of this birth, but again, at that time, almost certainly did not know the father was still alive, thus there was no need to introduce him to the magical world as "Tom Riddle, Jr."  Voldemort himself did not know his father was alive until he visited the Gaunt shack - and according to what he said in the Chamber of Secrets, he took the name Voldemort immediately after this.  So, essentially, no one ever knew there was a living "Tom Riddle, Sr." which would cause them to even consider calling him "Tom Riddle, Jr." Wva (talk) 17:42, July 30, 2014 (UTC)

Move to Voldemort? Edit

I know this topic has probably been brought up an exhausting number of times, but it's been about a year, so hey, why not revisit it? Moving this page to Voldemort makes a lot of sense. I'm aware that this wiki's article-naming policy dictates that first and last names should be used instead of nicknames, but "Voldemort" is definitely more than a nickname. Voldemort completely dropped the name "Tom Riddle" in his youth, and was only ever well-known in the Wizarding World as Voldemort. He never signed any papers in a court, but I don't think that's necessary to say that his name change was, for all intents and purposes, official. People who knew of Voldemort's past, such as Albus Dumbledore, may have referred to Voldemort as "Tom" from time to time, but this usage was hardly ever used, and even when it was, it was made in reference to Voldemort's past, before he had any real significance. Titling this article as "Tom Riddle" is also at odds with the fact that the majority of the content in the article uses the name "Voldemort" instead. I'm not advocating for a site-wide policy change or anything; in fact, a move in this instance would be compatible with the existing policies. Food for thought. —C Teng 08:08, July 30, 2014 (UTC)

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