Could the incantation be Glacius or Specialis Revelio? 13:36, August 30, 2011 (UTC)Nobody You Know

Is this supposed to be a specific spell? It sounded to me more like it would refer to a broad catagory of charms. Since "substantive" can also mean "independant rather than subordinate in existance or function," I would be inclined to think that a substantive charm is any charm that can be used by itself without any other charm as a prerequisite. 04:24, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

To "Nobody You Know", I don't think so - the former being the Freezing Spell and the latter being Scarpin's Revelaspell. To - that's a good idea, and I honestly don't know what to think now. Don't forget: Elvendork! (It's unisex!) 13:26, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
We don't know, so we shouldn't presume to know. It's better to have nothing in the article, then something that we do not know to be true. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 00:10, March 22, 2013 (UTC)