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[edit] HBP film appearance?

Is it possible that Ollivander has an appearance in the HBP film adaption, this picture shows a man with a black sack covering his head being kidnapped by Death Eater Fenrir Greyback, could this possibly be Ollivander?

The shop in which the man has been taken from has the same exterior to Ollivander's shop. (Two rounded windows and a rectangle shaped door in the middle)

What do you think? Patr0nus 16:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Well from what i've heard it is supposed to be him -Smonocco 16:15, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
There is another masked Death Eater exiting the shop, which supports the theory that this picture depicts the kidnapping of Ollivander, although the man could still be a new character invented strictly for the movie. Starstuff (Owl me!) 23:49, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
I already saw the movie, Base on what i've seen and heard, While the trio having a detour at Diagon Alley, they went inside the shop where the Death Eaters got this masked man and they discussed that it was Ollivander's shop, And besides Mr. Ollivander, Is there another important person from that shop whom Death Eaters are shows their interest? I believe, it was Ollivander. But i say, my belief is not important. It is what you think and the informations from official main source are more important to clarify this issue. --ÈnŔîčö (Send me an Owl!) 19:01, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Another proof that it was Ollivander is the latest article from Warner Bros. and VFXWorld: VFXWorld investigates Half-Blood Prince natural effects --ÈnŔîčö DC(Send me an Owl!) 15:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

A simple reading of Deathly Hallows would show that it is extremely likely that it was indeed Ollivander who was kidnapped on-screen. Sings-With-Spirits 00:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Older than Dumbledore?

In the main article this line is found:

"It is unknown how old he is, but in conversation with Harry Potter, he discusses making a wand for Lord Voldemort, who would have received his wand around 1937, making him older than Dumbledore."

This does not follow: Dumbledore was born in 1881 and we do not know the circumstances surrounding the Riddle wand sale; for all we know, Riddle's wand could have been Ollivander's first sale, which would make him 17 or 18 at the time, making his year of birth 1919 or 1920.

Assuming 1920 (for sheer convenience), he would have been 71 years old when he sold Harry his wand in 1991, which is consistent with his appearance both in the books and in the film. Sings-With-Spirits 00:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree that there is not enough evidence to support the statement that Ollivander is older than Dumbledore. However, wandlore is a very esoteric branch of magic, and I don't think Ollivander could've gone into making wands straight out of Hogwarts. It takes three years to train an Auror, and, given all the complexities of wandlore, I imagine it would take just as long, if not longer, to train as a wandmaker. So I think that, if Riddle's wand was Ollivander's first sale, he couldn't have been younger than 20 or 21 at the time. Starstuff (Owl me!) 21:36, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Thing is that there is no evidence at all that Mr. Ollivander himself made the wand; we know he sold it, but not who made it... for all we know the Phoenix Feather wands could have been sitting in the shelves for a thousand years! Sings-With-Spirits 02:52, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

He has had the shop for ages though, there probably were other's running the shop in the Ollivander shop before him because in one of the books it says its been going for hundreds of years --Bongo2009 Talk 21:45, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, we have to assume that the Ollivander's shop is a family operation and that Mr. Ollivander is just the latest proprietor and wandwright. Sings-With-Spirits 02:52, 22 August 2009 (UTC)