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Question - was Myrtle's death and the Diary really the first horcrux creation? I thought it was Tom Riddle Sr and the Gaunt Ring? Mafalda Hopkirk 19:24, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I always thought it said explicitly in the second book that the Gaunt Ring was first. Syu
Tom tells Harry in CoS17, "I decided to leave behind a diary, preserving my sixteen-year-old self in its pages" — indicating that the diary Horcrux was created before his seventeenth birthday on December 31, 1943. However, he didn't learn about Horcruxes until after he'd killed Myrtle, his father, and paternal grandparents, because he was already wearing Marvolo's ring when he asked Slughorn for information in HBP23. Myrtle was killed June 13, 1943, near the end of Tom's fifth year at Hogwarts, and Tom Riddle Sr. and his parents over the summer. That means that Tom must have asked Slughorn about Horcruxes at the beginning of his sixth year that September. The diary Horcrux was thus made sometime between September and December 1943. The ring was probably made around the same time, because JKR stated that Myrtle's death was used for the diary, and Tom Sr.'s for the ring. Starstuff (Owl me!) 05:19, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Glasses

Where was it mentioned that she died 'cause she removed her glasses, and she would only be petrified if she was with it?--SlytheirncrestRimaluko talk ContribsGryffindorcrest 02:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Nowhere. In fact, Rowling said [1] it doesn´t protect.--Rodolphus 09:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)


Died at age 12?

Who states that? She could be born between 1924 and 1931.--Rodolphus 14:57, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Tom Riddle murdered her?

Where does it specifically state that "On Riddle's command, the Basilisk stared at Myrtle..."?

I had always assumed that her death was (technically) accidental, that her seeing the basilisk's eye was unintentional.


brother?

Where is it mentioned that she had a brother? I can only recall a mention of Olive Hornby´s brother.--Rodolphus 07:39, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Myrtle's Bathroom

Wasn't it on the second floor in the corridor? Still Learning 14:54, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Muggle Born?

where does it mention her being a muggle born, i always assumed she was killed to prevent her from revealing riddle as slytherins heir (bit pointless as she became a ghost, although she never saw who the boy was), therefore she was not killed for being muggle born, and could have been half-blood or pureblood —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mando Warrior (talkcontribs).

If you look at both her father and mother they are Muggle-born. So that would conclude that she is a muggle. --Profiteor 13:40, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Also chapter 12 of Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets states she is a Muggle. --Profiteor 13:42, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

You mean muggle-born, don´t you? Draco mentions this fact to "Crabbe and Goyle."--Rodolphus 13:52, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

In Chamber of Secrets, Ch. 12, Draco tells the disguised Harry and Ron that "last time the Chamber of Secrets was opened, a Mudblood died." He says that he learned this information from his father, and if Myrtle been half-blood or pure-blood, I imagine Lucius Malfoy would have known, and thus would not have regarded her death so callously. Starstuff (Owl me!) 19:55, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
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