Last Name and possible move?
Ok, do we know that Muriel is a Weasley? She seems to make several snide remarks about the family during her appearance in the Deathly Hallows, so possibly not. Either way, I don't think its shown that she's a Prewett either, like the article suggests.
I propose a move to simply Muriel until confirmation is made. - Cavalier One 07:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- It's not. An Anon is speculating, and I'm removing. - Cavalier One(Wizarding Wireless Network) 15:08, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
She's DEFINITELY not a Weasley; she's MOLLY'S aunt, and Molly is a PREWETT by birth. As well as this, Muriel says "You Weasleys" and would say "WE Weasleys" if she was one. HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 00:54, August 20, 2012 (UTC)
I added that Muriel is most likely a pure-blood, based on her relation to at least two pureblood families, as well as the fact that she seems slightly prejudiced in that regards. Not Death-Eater-degree prejudiced, but slightly. Upon meeting Hermione, she immediately says, "Oh, is this the Muggle-born?" and then insults her (mind, she does the latter with everyone). She also includes Kendra Dumbledore's Muggle-born status in her tirade against the woman, rather unnecessarily. Her being a pure-blood was never confirmed, though, to my knowledge. Oread 05:26, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
There's no "most likely" about it; she IS a Pureblood; she's the aunt of Molly Weasley and thus must be Pureblood; if one of Muriel's parents was a muggleborn, or halfblood, then she, and in turn Molly, would be halfbloods. Molly is a Pureblood; Muriel is, without a doubt, a Pureblood. HarryPotterRules1 00:07, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
- How do we know that she is a Prewett she could have been Molly's mothers sister meaning that we dont know her last name. Me_Potter_Fan (Talk) 11:53, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Great Aunt or Aunt?
Is there any possibility that Muriel could be Molly's Great-Aunt? Considering that the difference between their ages is about 60 years, it doesn't seem likely that Muriel is the sister of one of Molly's parents. //Carojen
You could be right. Doesn´t Molly refer to Muriel as great auntie while talking to Fleur in book 6?--Rodolphus 16:28, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- Yup. "Our Great-Auntie Muriel"; HBP, Scholastic ed., ch.29, p.623 Nick O'Demus 17:26, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- Muriel is Molly's aunt. Moody refers to Muriel's home as "Molly's Auntie Muriel's" in DH4. I believe that when Molly refers to Muriel as "Our Great Auntie Muriel" in HBP29, she is speaking from the perspective of her children, as it is a British practice to refer to family members as "our [whatever]." ★ Starstuff (Owl me!) 09:46, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I had heard somewhere that she was Molly's great-great-aunt, this is only what i had heard. --Danniesen June 14 2010 07:13
- Well, she's not. She's Molly's auntie, and Molly's children's great auntie. Jayden Matthews 09:39, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
Moody referring to her as Molly's Auntie doesn't necessarily prove a thing. The age difference would likely mean that she is Molly's Great-Aunt, and Ron and etc's Great-Grand Aunt; the children may simply call her great-auntie Muriel because it's easier to say than Great-Grandaunt. If Muriel is approximately 60 years older than Molly, Molly's parents would have been impossibly old to have children if Muriel was a sibling to one of them, even if said sibling was ten years younger than Muriel.Miraitrunks766 16:14, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
- People sometimes have children in their 40s or marry someone significantly older than themselves.
- If Muriel is the sister of Molly's father, then the two could have been around the same age, and Molly's father, like Nott, started a family with a much younger wife when he was in his 60s.
- Alternatively, if Molly's grandparents married right out of Hogwarts at 18 and immediately had Muriel c. 1890, then had Molly's father/mother c. 1910-1920 when they were between the ages of 38 and 48, Molly's father/mother would've ended up with a sister two decades or more his/her senior. Then Molly's father/mother could have waited until his/her 40s to have Molly, Gideon, and Fabian.
- Of course we don't know whether Muriel is Molly's aunt by blood or marriage. The possibility remains that she was married to the brother of Molly's father or mother and was some years older than him. ★ Starstuff (Owl me!) 19:14, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
There is a typo on the picture captioned "Harry Potter, Elphias Dodge and Aunt Mureil sitting at Bill and Fleur's wedding in 1997" I can't figure out how to edit the caption & save the change```` —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wonka2011 (talk • contribs).
- Fixed. Editing a caption is easy, simply find the image in edit mode, change the caption, and hit "Publish". Please always sign talk page entries using 4 tildes (~) and start a new section for new issues. -Shorty1982 15:14, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
Aunt by marriage?
I think Muriel might be an Aunt by marriage of Molly. Muriel is described as having "a beaky nose, red-rimmed, bloodshot eyes, and bony fingers."; Molly has none of these features. Molly's been described often enough. This to me, means that Muriel is an aunt by marriage, as Molly would have inherited the "beaky nose, red-rimmed, bloodshot eyes, and bony fingers" if Muriel was an aunt by blood, as one of Molly's parents (mother or father, we're not sure which side Muriel belongs to yet!) would have the "beaky nose, red-rimmed, bloodshot eyes, and bony fingers" too; Molly doesn't have them, thus her parents didn't, so Muriel is an aunt by MARRIAGE, and not blood, as at least ONE of those things would have passed to the sibling as well.
- At the time Muriel is described in Deathly Hallows, she is 107, and all of her physical characteristics — "beaky nose, red-rimmed, bloodshot eyes, and bony fingers" — could very well be a product of her advanced age. Time isn't exactly kind to the human body. Even the "beaky nose" could be a result of aging. Nose shape can change dramatically because cartilage tends to break down/weaken as people grow old.
- Secondly, blood relatives don't always closely resemble each other, especially not when they're non-lineal. Molly could take strongly after one side of her family, and Muriel could be a blood aunt on the other side, e.g. Molly takes more after her father and Muriel is her mother's sister. ★ Starstuff (Owl me!) 08:19, August 20, 2012 (UTC)
I know this has been brought up before, but I wanted to clarify.... Muriel is Molly's aunt, isn't she? J. K. Rowling has stated that Ginny was the eighth girl in the Weasley family for generations; Muriel would only be a generation above. Besides, in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1 Moody describes Muriel as Molly's aunt. --Don't forget: Elvendork! (It's unisex!) 17:37, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Muriel is Molly's aunt; I think this is categorically stated in the books. I'd just like to correct you, though: Muriel is two generations above Ginny (she's Ginny's great-aunt, so she'd be the same generation as her grandparents, one generation above Molly); also, Rowling does not say Ginny's the eight Weasley girl in generations: Rowling says that she made her the seventh of the Weasley kids based on "that old tradition of the seventh daughter of a seventh daughter and a seventh son of a seventh son" (she's speaking out-of-universe, here; she's explaining us why she wrote Ginny to be the seventh child -- you can see this, because Ginny is not the seventh daughter, she's the seventh child, as Molly and Arthur had no other six daughters we don't know of). -- 23:48, March 21, 2013 (UTC)