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The Tower?

I was just wondering which tower the one referenced to here is relating to (right).
Myrtletower
However, isn't it clear from the fifth video game that this bathroom isn't located in a tower, but rather on the First Floor Coridor to the right to the Viaduct Entrance?

Thanks, Joeworthy 19:23, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Myrtles reference

Reference image

Look at the reference image (left). When you pass the Stone Bridge you get into the little turret (which are being made bigger for Deathly Hallows) on the left of the Viaduct Entrance. If you go straight and at the end of the corridor you turn left, you will find Myrtle's bathroom. --El Profeta Vespertino 19:48, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I get what you mean now. I thought you were saying that it was located inside a turret! Also, where is that image from as I've never seen it before? Joeworthy 20:15, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
It is from the Chamber of Secrets film. After Riddle's diary's memory scene, the Trio is seen in the Transfiguration Courtyard discussing it. This scene starts with an aerial view of the Castle, from the Great Hall to the courtyard, and is the only scene in which we can see the Paved Courtyard (see image)
PavedCourtyard
. It is one of the best views of the castle. --El Profeta Vespertino 21:03, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Name

Would anyone oppose moving this to Moaning Myrtle's Bathroom (or perhaps just Myrtle's Bathroom)? It's officially referred to as one or the other in quite a few of the video games, and we've used odder official names before. Unless it's been called "second-floor girls' lavatory" somewhere and its not just a descriptive name, that is. -- 1337star (Drop me a line!) 16:32, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Let's call it First Floor Girls' Lavatory. In this wiki, we never use nicknames. First Floor Girls' Lavatory is its real name. Anne B. Ng 08:53, May 3, 2014 (UTC)

Previous article?

What became of the article which, until a few minutes ago as I type, bore this name? It was an article about the lavatory in which Hermione got trapped with the troll, and may have been misnamed as my copy of the first book is vague as to that room's location (indicating only that it's above the ground floor). This article seems to have simply vanished. — RobertATfm (talk) 11:59, May 3, 2014 (UTC)

Naming

What went on here? We went from using an official canon name to using a conjectural nickname after about sixteen renames. I think it should go back to "Moaning Myrtle's Bathroom" as that is the official, canonical name for the place, fresh from Pottermore itself. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 12:08, May 3, 2014 (UTC)

By all means, if it's the canonically correct name. MinorStoop 12:25, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
I wanted to ensure that everyone agreed with the change before it occurred; it would seem that thus far there are no qualms, but I suppose it'd be best to wait until maybe noon or even this evening before re-changing it. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 12:29, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
The concern I raised in the previous discussion (that the article which previously occupied this slot seems to have softly and suddenly vanished away) needs to also be addressed, if this is possible. — RobertATfm (talk) 12:48, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
@Hunnie Bunn: "noon/evening" of which time zone? It's already nearly two hours into the afternoon, here in the UK. — RobertATfm (talk) 12:51, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
It appears that by the time I got to this, the first of these issues have been resolved. The disappearing bathroom has re-emerged as First-Floor Girls' Toilets. Sorry about any confusion my previous message had brought: it's so easy for me to forget that it's any later than 9:43 AM anywhere in the world (that's what it is right now where I live). I suppose, given that it's the canonical name and there hasn't been any argument, that I perhaps ought to change it now instead of procrastinating and delaying. If anyone has any questions or objections later on they can be raised on the talk page. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 13:56, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
As in the comment of my undoing, Hunnie, the way you've done it means losing the edit history of the page. We have to wait for an admin to delete the redirect now in place and move the page to its correct name. It's just a technicality, but an important one. MinorStoop 14:07, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, my mistake. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 15:06, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
Mind adding a hyphen? First-floor girls' lavatory is the bathroom where Myrtle died. First-floor girls' toilets is the one which Hermione was attacked by a troll. Anne B. Ng 07:26, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
Well, sorry for causing a big fuss. I apologize for changing the name and causing such a big arguement. Let me tell you what make me change it. 
  1. Moaning Myrtle is a nickname. 
  2. If you add Moaning Myrtle's bathroom, it seems so "funny". Its proper name is First-floor girls' lavatory. 
Anne B. Ng Talk 12:06, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
If it's allowable, I no longer know, and admins do not appear to be interested in dealing with this question. Technically, I don't think you can; with all the moves, there's a(n?) hyphenated redirect in the way. MinorStoop 07:52, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

First -floor/ second-floor?

I've read both the British and American versions. The british one is First-floor and the American one is Second-floor. Which one to use? Anne B. Ng 07:27, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

The language/usage policy is "British usage", so there's no question — this bathroom is on the first floor, that being the one above the ground floor (in Britain, including Scotland where Hogwarts is located).
As for the name of the room (and hence of the article), canon (the books and Pottermore) says that it's "Moaning Myrtle's Bathroom". It will presumably be moved back when the present mess is sorted out. — RobertATfm (talk) 09:08, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

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