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Hey guys I was rereading this article, specifically the part Behind the scenes part. The person who contribute this part thinks James Potter's mother could be Dorea Black. He or she believe this because James only mentioned his father being in Gryffindor, and not his mother, so she could have been in Slytherin, as most Blacks, except for Sirius was in Slytherin. I am here to propose my point that she neither was a Slytherin and not Dorea Black. First, the latter. Of course as someone else already pointed out, Dorea die pretty young even in Muggle sense to James mother who die at an old age for wizards/witches. But I present a second point, Dorea and Charlus Potter were still on the Family Tree, not burn off. One would think James's parents be burn off by Walburga Black, Sirius's mother who kept the tapestry. After all, James parents took in Sirius, Walburga runaway blood traitor son, and treated him as one of their own. Now onto the former, on how I know she's not a Slytherin. Yes, while it's true, James did not mention his mother's house. But look around it, when he was talking about Slytherin house. Sirius told him "My whole family have been in Slytherin." And James replied "Blimey, and I thought you seemed all right!" From my interpretation, James implying being Slytherin makes a person seems odd. Would he say that if in fact, his very own mother was a Slytherin? I don't think so. While we see many similarity between Draco and James, both pureblood, spoil, there are many obvious differences. One that I can point out, while I think James may sometimes pout to get his parents to do things for him, I don't think he's like Draco, who would sometimes verbally abuse his mother, Narcissa. So I doubt, James would bad mouth his mother, and talk about Slytherin that way if his mother was one. So that my prove she wasn't in Slytherin Seasrmar 08:07, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Debatable point in Behind the Scenes

"In the "Special Features" disc of the Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban DVD, Fiona Shaw (who played Petunia Dursley) was interviewed saying how cars slowly pass by her father's house in Ireland, saying that "Harry Potter's grandfather lives there"."

Is this really necessary on this page. Petunia, and thus, Fiona Shaw, is not James´sister.--Rodolphus 18:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The interview in question can be found on Disc 2 of Prisoner of Azkaban under "Divination Class" -> "Head to Shrunken Head" -> "The Dursleys." In it, Richard Griffiths, Fiona Shaw, Harry Melling, and Pam Ferris are asked about how people have reacted to their appearing in the HP films:
Interviewer: What about you? What experience have you had with some of your younger rellies [relatives]?
Fiona Shaw: They just can't believe it. My father lives in Ireland, and cars go slowly past his house, because they say "Harry Potter's grandfather lives in there." [Laughs hysterically as she continues to speak] It entirely bewilders.
Interviewer: They've got it really wrong, haven't they?
Fiona Shaw's comment evidently wasn't intended to refer to Mr. Evans or Mr. Potter. It's a story about how information often gets mixed up. People probably started to point out her father's house with, "That's where Fiona Shaw's father lives. She plays Harry Potter's aunt," and somehow that became "Harry Potter's grandfather lives there." Starstuff (Owl me!) 14:33, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

i undestand that, but still "James Potter´s father" and "Fiona Shaw´s father" are not the same person. And as Fiona plays Petunia, Harry´s maternal aunt, not paternal. That was the reason for me to move the information to the Mr Evans-article.--Rodolphus 14:47, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah, now you have deleted this information entirely. Thank you.--Rodolphus 14:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


So I realise that this is mostly just speculation, but I was thinking, is it actually said somewhere that Harry had no living blood relatives besides Petunia when his parents where murdered? Because, and like I said total speculation, because it was Lily that died for Harry sealing the magic that protected him, it could have meant that only blood relatives of Lily could continue the protection, excluding any potential blood relatives of James. --BachLynnGryffindorcrest(Accio!) 23:31, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I believe it's mentioned in the early chapters of Philosopher's Stone. --Cubs Fan (Talk to me) 02:49, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Charlus Potter

This page has been redirected to this page on a new speculation wiki. Please leave additional comments there. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 13:11, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Pure blood

I think it is fairly clear that the Potters were not a pure-blood family.

First, it is obvious that they did not have the mental instabillity evidenced by those families that were literally "pure-blood", for example, the Gaunts.

Second, they also did not hide their muggle ancestors as those who claimed to be pure-blood did.

Finally, as JKR wrote, in modern times "pure-blood" is primarily a political statement as opposed to a statement about geneaology.  The Potters throughout the generations did not hold to this political philosophy.

Wva (talk) 18:00, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you are talking about. The Weasleys, the Malfoys and the Longbottoms are Pure-Bloods and don't have mental instability like the Gaunts. James Potter being a Pureblood is canon, therefore his parents must be Purebloods, too. Neville Longbottom (talk) 15:57, September 23, 2015 (UTC)
"Blood status" is a social construct, but saying that the Potters are a pure-blood family does not mean that they share these views -- it means that people who hold the blood purity philosophy would characterise them as pure-blood. J.K. Rowling has said that the normal view is to consider someone with wizard parentage and all-pure-blood grandparents as "pure-blood", although the seriously prejudiced, like the Gaunts, would disagree (to them, I'd bet, a single Muggle ancestor would pollute the bloodline -- but this is unrealistic, especially when one considers that up to the 1690s, wizards could openly associate with Muggles). --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 18:57, September 23, 2015 (UTC)
I think the take-away point is that "pure blood" is a complicated term with many different meanings.  The way I work it out in my mind is that James Potter, Neville Longbottom and the Weasleys are certainly pure-blood, but I would not consider the Potter, Longbottom or Weasley families to be pure-blood.  I think when you talk about an individual calling them "pure-blood" is a reference to their geneaology and the fact that their grandparents (at least) were all magical.  Calling a family "pure-blood" is a reference to their political views.
However, I will point out the obvious problem with my own solution:  An individual may revolt against their family.  Sirius and several of his relatives were clearly not politically pure-blood, even though their family certainly was.  And hopefully without stealing a future movie plot, it is possible that a future Potter/Weasley descendent might be corrupted over to the "pure-blood" line for a time.  (I will probably be kicked off the sight for even suggesting that.)
Wva (talk) 20:15, September 23, 2015 (UTC)
Not sure I entirely agree with that. The Weasleys were still considered a Pure-Blood family despite their obvious acceptance of Muggles. The way I see it, blood status (both of individuals and families in general) were based on genealogy. This practice, as others have already pointed out, is not terribly realistic. True pure-bloods, if they ever existed at all, almost certainly no longer existed by Harry's time. It's even been revealed that the Potter family occasionally married muggles.
The Wikia Editor (talk) 0:27, September 26, 2015 (UTC)


Do not know about the birth of Fleamont Potter, but can speculate that Fleamont Potter was born at the late 1930 or early 1940 after James Potter born late at 1960. Invisibility 11:36, December 26, 2015 (UTC) Currently now still do not know about the birth of Fleamont Potter. Who knew then discussed here. (Invisibility 15:52, December 28, 2015 (UTC))

There is not enough canon information to determinate his year of birth. All we know is that he and Euphemia were elderly in wizarding terms when their son was born,--Rodolphus (talk) 15:59, December 28, 2015 (UTC)

Infobox - family

I made this edit to remove the family members beyond 2 generations, but I left the most distant ancestors as:

  1. The Peverells and their hallows are a key piece of information both as plot and symbolism
  2. Linfred is the source of the Potter family name

Figured this edit might serve as an example to discuss this format as we consider structuring the family fields on the infoboxes. Thoughts? --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:45, May 26, 2016 (UTC)

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