Talk:Hermione Granger

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Offensive Language

I have recently discovered that this page is under thecategory of the offensive word - please excuse me for typing this - "xxxx!". If you type the word "****!" in the search box you will be directed to Hermione's page. I think that ought to be removed. I have just gotten an email even saying "See the latest changes made to xxxx! on Harry Potter Wiki by user" instead of saying the usual "Hermione Granger" name in the subject. Once again this ought to be removed and I would have removed it if I could but the problem is I don't know how to. _—  Firefox1095  _— 22:05, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Redirect has been deleted. - Nick O'Demus 05:12, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

What are the xxxx for...Hermione?!?, thats not nice. At least its removed Speedysnitch 03:57, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Well it is not xxxx but it was a curse word that starts with an "f" and ends with a "k" but you obviously can't type curse words on the wikia (I didn't know that when I typed it :P )so Nick O'Demus changed it to xxxx. _—  Firefox1095  _— 22:45, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oh and it was a redirect. Like if you type "fxxk" (the word itself) in the search box, you would be redirected to Hermione's page and also when you get emails about changes, it will say "See the latest changes made to xxxx! on Harry Potter Wiki by user" instead of saying the usual "Hermione Granger" name in the subject. Thank goodness it is removed now. I hate vandalists. _—  Firefox1095  _— 22:47, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Hermione's inquisitive nature.

Hermione loves working with her hands- destroying thing to see how they work and putting them back together again. This is why she loves to knit, making scarves, hats and socks from nothing more than yarn.

Lilyluna96 12:33, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

different...

I'm surprised that more people use voldemort or remus lupin or sirius black or severus snape as a talk place.....see Hermione is one of those main, main characters, as of remus, sirius, snape they are main but not as main as Hermione....not voldemort though he is a main main character, but he is on the dark side, Hermione is on the good side......i don't get it. That sounded wierd when I said main,main.... - Speedysnitch 03:53, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Man! they REALLY should make a page for Harry Potter...I havent seen one for him, yet! and he is the character of ALL CHARACTERS! (no offense to Ron or Hermione in saying that)... but its true! :( - pinkstarwarsfreak94

Incase you haven't noticed, there already is an article and a talk page for Harry Potter. _—  Firefox1095  _— 00:51, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Also I forgot to say, in order to sign, don't type your name like you did but instead type "~~~~" without the quotes or click on the Signature button on top. This will automatically leave your name and the time and date of when you left the message or parapraph or whatever. _—  Firefox1095  _— 00:53, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Incase you haven't noticed pinkstarwarsfreak94 Harry Potter talk place has more people than hermione, harry potter has 323 people and hermione has 25, see the difference, hermione needs more people cause she is a main, main character. --Speedysnitch 01:39, May 28, 2011 (UTC) Forgot to write this down, you have a good user page Firefox1095, how can you get the biograghy info thing on your user page, I've been trying to figure out how to do it. --Speedysnitch 01:45, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

It is a bit of a complex code to explain but you can simply just go to my userpage, click on edit profile, click on source, and you will find everything about the user page there. _—  Firefox1095  _— 01:48, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

THANKS! --Speedysnitch 01:03, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

(OOC: I am not the real Hermione Granger, I just like to roleplay as her teen version in 1997) Hi, everyone! I can't believe all the people that are here! If you want me to answer some questions, go to my talk page! --The Hermione Granger 01:43, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

........ yeah. -- SaXon 17:48, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Hermione's Parents

If I recall correctly, Hermione's parents are dentists. Therefore, shouldn't they be described as "Dr", rather than

Mr & Mrs??

98.212.114.70 01:53, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

And how will you then recognize who is the male and who is the female Dr.? Their first names are not known. Harry granger 19:02, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

No. They should be referred to as Mr and Mrs. _—  Firefox1095  _— 22:23, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

New infobox image?

Hi all,

I think it's about time we changed Hermione's infobox image. I uploaded and held a vote on the current one a while back when no 'official' studio shots of Deathly Hallows were released and as we now have quite a lot of studio shots of Hermione from the latest film I think we should take a vote on which should be the new one!

Current Image

New Image #1

New Image #2

New Image #3

New Image #4

Support for "New Image #1" (File:DH_Hermione_in_her_red_dress.jpg) (+2)

• Patr0nus ^{( Expecto Patronum! )} 14:33, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
• Harry granger 13:39, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Support for "New Image #4" (File:GoF-promo-05.jpg) (+4)

Dustin1998 22:31, August 20, 2011 (UTC)Dustin1998

1. Cubs Fan (Talk to me) 17:57, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

P.S: FEEL FREE TO ADD ANY IMAGE YOU THINK DESERVES TO BE INCLUDED IN THE VOTE!

Forum:Post-DH2 infobox images#Hermione Granger

Best

Emma Watson had such great acting as Hermione. Emma is Hermione's role moldel

THE BEST OF THE BEST !!!

Eclipse-girl123 22:29, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

hi

I am not at registered user, but I do have a suggestion for the Hermione Granger article. This is a small thing, but I remembered that Draco Malfoy called Hermione a "mudblood" at least once, and I think that should be added under the row "Also known as". Thank You! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]).

Firstly, even if you're not a registered user you're still supposed to sign your posts. As for your comment, I seem to remember from an edit summary I saw recently that it is official policy on this wiki that insults, or at least one-off ones, do not count as "also known as" items. — RobertATfm (talk) 13:07, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Image

I would like to propose a new image for the page. This one:

Secret agent clank 16:59, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

That's a cool pic! and i think it's here prettiest one :)Teamcullen 19:41, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Why isn't Gilderoy Lockhart in the people section considering she had a crush on him.

There is a gramatical error in the 'Authors comments' section

I really like this one! It's a really pretty pic of her! DahSmartzCutie 23:53, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

We should put the pic of her in the deathly hallows part 1 movie, and the one right now is T-R-A-S-H. go on google and type in "hermiopne granger year 7". its the first pic. but yea. yours is nice as well. i just thought that since the one i was thinkin of is more recent.Mrjoebobisvoldemort (talk) 18:46, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Mrjoebobisvoldemort, I really like that picture. It may be subject to copyright, though. I have attached a link, so that everyone else can see it, because the search might change. Please take this into consideration for change. http://idigitalcitizen.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/hermione-granger-hp7-woods-320x480-iphone.jpg%3Fw%3D320 Allsevenbooks (talk) 22:16, July 21, 2014 (UTC)

I think we should hold an official vote on the pictures. How should we do the voting? We already have the current picture, the one that Secret agent clank proposed and the one that Mrjoebobisvoldemort proposed.Allsevenbooks (talk) 22:24, July 21, 2014 (UTC)

The text under Sirius Blacks photo, under the relationships section is a broken link. I don't trust myself to fix it, haven't done it recently. Zane T 69 (talk) 03:41, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

Question

How did Hermione know Harry Potter's name at first without him saying so?

Interstate2011 18:48, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

By the 1990s, Harry Potter's "defeat" of Voldemort was legendary in the wizarding world. Harry was mentioned in Modern Magical History and The Rise and Fall of the Dark Arts and Great Wizarding Events of the Twentieth Century, which Hermione dutifully read the summer before her first year at Hogwarts. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 18:56, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

/*Answer*/

Answer to a question marked unknown on this page: Her Patronus was an Otter. It's in books 5 and 7. I don't have them on me or I'd give you a page number. Just throwin' that out there. Someone should change it :)

New article name?

Don;t you think the article name should be changed to "Hermione Weasley" and "Hermione Granger" should redirect to it? Xeoxer 20:34, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Looks to me that the standard on this wiki is to name the articles of women using the name she is most known by be it her maiden or married name. -Shorty1982 20:44, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

We don't even know whether she's called Hermione Weasley or if she kept her last name like Professor McGonagall did. I'd be careful with that whole "Hermione Weasley" thing. 89.246.183.130 07:53, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not registered yet, but I came over to check her birthdate to win an argument, and I'm skeptical that she would change her name. She's not really the type. Unless there's proof that she did, it's pretty presumptious. This calls into question the kids as well, of course. Weasley, or Granger-Weasley, or Weasley-Granger...does anyone have a source on her name/the kids' names? I'm not here to stir up trouble, it's just that I'm doing a major rewatch/reread as we speak and I just don't see Hermione going full Weasley... 69.112.8.215 05:03, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

Hermione is based on J.K Rowling, who used her maiden name.Breather (talk) 02:48, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

There has been no explicit indaction that she kept her name. When people marry they automaticly take there husbends name unless they ask to keep it. So the Default name should be hermione weasley.Orangerichard56 (talk) 18:19, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

Please read bullet #2 of our naming policy. --Cubs Fan (Talk to me) 18:32, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

When women marry taking their husband's name is ONE of the options they have.  Women are not 'automatically' bestowed with their husband's name.  As JK Rowling continues to refer to Hermione as 'Hermione Granger' only, in contrast to Ginny who she now refers to as 'Ginny Potter' (in the same source: Daily Prophet report on Pottermore 8/7/14), it follows that Harry Potter wiki should also continue to refer to her as 'Hermione Granger' at all times -- not just in the page title.  The only reason for changing her name to 'Weasley (nee Granger)' would be if a canon source explicitly refered to her as that.  This has never happened.

SN: Let's all accept canon as Hermione is clearly a massive feminist (as asserted by JK Rowling)

Thanks FlooSky (talk) 19:52, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

When women marry men they do not automatically take their husband's name, Orangerichard56. I have changed Hermione's name in the opening paragraph from Hermione Jean Weasley, nee Granger, to Hermione Jean Granger, due to the new canonical evidence from the Pottermore Rita Skeeter article that she kept her name after she married (Hermione and Luna are still referred to as Hermione Granger and Luna Lovegood after marriage, while Ginny is referred to as Ginny Potter).

However, I do not know how to change the caption underneath the picture. Please could someone with the skills to do this do it, as it is obviously correct? Thank you. Rosie Sourbut (talk) 18:35, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Dramione

I have a suggestion for the Relationships:Draco Malfoy Category.

In a recent interview, J.K. Rowling said that Draco had strong positive feelings for Hermoine, and would always have "lingering" feelings. However, due to his upbringing, he was unable to act on those feelings, and instead made fun of her, gaining some attention that way.

However, for some reason I am unable to post this information, there being no "edit" button available, as I am a new user, and was hoping that someone else could, along with finding out which interview it was.

Thanks!!!!

02:25, August 23, 2011 (UTC) Mrs. di Angelo

Firstly, the article is protected so if you haven't had an account for a while you can't directly edit it, you may only suggests edits here until you've been around long enough. Secondly, I have never ever heard of JK Rowling once (across all HP related media) suggest that sort of relationship between Hermione and Draco. Of course, if you have a reference for this purported interview then I'd be all too happy to look over it and—if she did indeed confirm your statement—add the info but otherwise its just unfounded fanon that should not be added—Green Zubat (owl me!). 02:40, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

P.S. I have even double checked courtesy of accio-quote.org (which is a highly comprehensive and reliable source for all things JK, detailing almost every public, HP related comment she has ever made), which has returned no such confirmation of this rumoured interview. Its almost definitely fanon—Green Zubat (owl me!). 02:44, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I can't find any references to an actual interview in which JKR revealed Draco had feelings for Hermione. Google results suggest it's an unfounded rumour started by Draco/Hermione shippers on Tumblr.

If it's a recent interview, though, Accio Quote! wouldn't be the place to look for it, because that site hasn't been updated much since 2007 (probably because JKR has been out of the public eye since the release of DH). ★ Starstuff ^{(Owl me!)} 02:56, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Personally, that sounds like the most ridiculous rumor I've ever heard. Shippers can be really stupid sometimes. -HoboHunter28- (Leave me an owl!) 03:15, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox image vote

Forum:Post-DH2 infobox images#Hermione Granger

Follow the link. Nominations are still open. Voting starts in 3 days. - Nick O'Demus 14:49, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Owl's

I was reading the article and i noticed that it says Hermione recieved ten Owl's. In the book it says she recieved eleven. Ten were outstanding and one was Excedes Expectations. I thought you might want to change that.

Thank you for pointing that out. I just fixed it. Mllehermione 19:58, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

New Image from Deathly Hallows: Part 2

I'd like to suggest a new image for Hermione's infobox. It has always been the policy of the wiki to have the most recent image of the character (if possible), and this image portrays Hermione in the final film. Tell me what you think! :)

JSquish 23:03, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think if we're going to follow the policy of the wiki to use the most recent image of the character, then we might as well use the Prologue picture becaues it is the most recent. _—  Firefox1095  _— 23:25, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Someone altered Hermione's relatives as the Malfoy family - that Draco is her husband, Scorpius is her son, and Lucius and Narcissa are her inlaws

108.68.101.175 05:01, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

I've reverted it several times. If they do it again, I'll block them. --Cubs Fan (Talk to me) 05:07, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Muggle Sister

The citation for Rowling's original plan for Hermione to have a Muggle sister doesn't seem to be posting correctly. If anyone knows how to fix it I've located the interview that states, specifically, that she was to be a Muggle.

http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2004/0804-ebf.htm

76.29.255.159 14:13, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Accio Quote is working again? Interesting, it had been down for quite a while. In any case, there was talk about creating our own interview archiving here on the wiki because of the problem with the outage and other such issues. Dunno what the status of it is, though... ProfessorTofty 16:51, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Cleanup

Her page is in some need of some serious clean up. There's much image clutter, it's even causing images to overlap some words. —JuniperAlien (talk) 21:15, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

Maiden name

The cretin, and it's the mildest term that comes to mind, with the following IP address - 67.142.170.25 - keeps trying to repost a transposition of the two surnames, along with other idiocies. Can someone please take steps? Jiskran (talk) 16:33, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

In the book it says she received 10 outstanding OWLS and one exceeds expectations, yet you have a total of 10 OWLS listed.  What is missing?72.84.220.25 04:00, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

This was an error in some editions of the book. In later editions, it was corrected to 9 O's and 1 E (10 total). - Nick O'Demus 12:18, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Rose isn't in profile

I believe that Hermione had a child named Rose.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.25.133.231 (talk • contribs) 21:39, March 3, 2013‎ (UTC).

Are you reading an old revision of the page, or what? On the current (as I type) version, Hermione's daughter Rose is listed as such in both the infobox and the main page. — RobertATfm (talk) 01:21, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

Additional Pet?

I noticed that in the Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets movie that while Professor Minerva McGonagall was telling the students about the Chamber of Secrets, Hermione had a pet chameleon that she was going to turn into a goblet. Is this another pet of hers just for this one movie or is it throughout all the movies because I only saw it in the Chamber of Secrets?

KyranEllis (talk) 21:34, March 23, 2013 (UTC)KyranEllisKyranEllis (talk) 21:34, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

It was probably just a school-provided animal, rather than a pet. Hogwarts has a number of animals for such use, such as the mice that McGonagall had them practice on for Vanishment. ProfessorTofty (talk) 21:41, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

This is probably one they use only for that one scene. Also, the books have higher canon than the movies, and this scene is not in the books. It is a variation on the scene with Professor Binns. Allsevenbooks (talk) 22:37, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Birthday

I just wanna ask where did you guys get her birthday? I think it doesn't make sense that she was born nearly one year older than the others.1.233.241.162 17:37, April 7, 2013 (UTC)Hue

The source for the day and month is given on the page, click on the little [1] beside the birthday in the infobox. As for the year, if she'd been born a year before what we have she'd be too young for Hogwarts, a year older and too old to go in the time frame that she did. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 20:02, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

You seem to be labouring under a common misconception regarding Hogwarts' entrance policy. As Hunnie Bunn points out, students are admitted to Hogwarts in the year in which they are 11 on 1 September, not necesarily in the year of their 11th birthday. This mistake is made by at least one timeline. — RobertATfm (talk) 22:01, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

No, they're correct. Hermoine missed the 1990 school start year by 20 days; the "born after September 1st" bit (as she was born on 19th September 1979) just pushed her into Harry and Ron's year - it means that she is 11 for the first 18 days of Philosopher's Stone, then turns 12 for the rest of the book. --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 00:14, January 21, 2014 (UTC)

Acutally, although the books mention that she was born in September 1979, they never mention what the specific date is. And we don't know where the MuggleNet archive gets its information from. For all we know, somebody could have just put it there. If somebody has more information regarding the "19th" part, please comment here. Thanks, Allsevenbooks (talk) 22:40, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

But she was still 13 at the end of the thrid book, like really the end,it was in one of the last chapters. Chapter 20 or 21 I think, she was said to be 13 and that was after Septemeber if she was 13 then, she would have been born in 1980 instead. W_OLFBLAZ^E 22:05, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

This discussion took place over a year ago, and Hermione's birthdate is 1979. I don't recall it saying that Hermione was still 13 at the end of the third book, only the third film. And the sixth and seventh books, and part one of the seventh film confirm that Hermione is 10 months older than Harry, so she would be 14 by this time. If it says anywhere that Hermione was still 13, then it would have been an error. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 00:13, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Does that mean I'm not meant to edit this..? If so, then sorry! And I read all seven, I don't remember is saying that she was ten months older then Harry, and I just re-read the third book, it was in the book too. Agian, if I am not alllowed to edit this, then sorry and I'll stop. W_OLFBLAZ^E 14:13, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

You're free to edit this; C.Syde65 has only pointed out that this discussion is old and has, for lack of a better term, grown stale. J.K. Rowling has addressed this already, ages ago, via her (now defunct) website: "She was nearly twelve; you must be at least eleven to attend Hogwarts". It's solid canon fact that Hermione was born in 1979. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 18:47, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Ah. Some sites have a rule that says after a year you can't edit it. So I guess in the third book it was an error. Do you think  that link should be added for the ref on the page?  W_OLFBLAZ^E 01:47, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

How tall is Hermione ?

Hermione Granger is listed as being 5'11" tall. Really?? IMDB lists Emma Watson as 5'5".

71.164.109.62 04:06, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Watson's height doesn't matter, necessarily, because if it says somewhere in canon that Hermione is 5'11" tall, then she is. But that's a good question, though, what is the source on the 5'11" figure? Does anyone know where that comes from? ProfessorTofty (talk) 05:39, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

I don't know about the 5'11" number, but her Ministry File from the Harry Potter Limited Edition says 5'5", so I'll change it and add the reference. - Nick O'Demus 07:14, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Scar?

In the "Physical appearance" section, it's stated that Hermione has a scar "which ran as a thin line across her torso" due to Antonin Dolohov's curse at the Department of Mysteries. I've never heard of this scar and this statement is not referenced. Is there any truth to it? 152.78.164.213 19:32, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

New info box image.

I do not really like the current info box image and am wondering what people think about this alternative:

File:New-promotional-pictures-of-Emma-Watson-for-Harry-Potter-and-the-Deathly-Hallows-part-1-hermione-granger-31934042-1920-2560.jpg

Please let me know whether you prefer this new image, or the old one.

Pettigrew's Finger (talk) 19:17, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Mione

I added the nickname Mione. Is that ok? And is it correct?

(Lucyhalelove)

I know of no instances where she is called that, so I removed it. If someone can point to one though then you have my apologies.Westinf (talk) 08:41, October 16, 2014 (UTC)westinf

Wand?

Where does it say what her wand core is made of? Jcubshor (talk) 22:25, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Wand?

Where does it say what the length of her wand is? (Im just curious.) Dr. Galenos (talk) 17:36, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

wandless magic

From "Magical abilities and skills"

Wandless magic: Hermione was known to have practiced wandless magic in her years at Hogwarts. She did not need the air of a wand or magical instrument for a wide variety of spells.[9]

IThe source is given as HBP, but are aware of any time she used wandless magic in the norvel? I think it was only in the films, which would still be canon. Could it be possible that someone confused wandless and nonverbal magic?--Rodolphus (talk) 22:27, December 31, 2013 (UTC)

No, it was only in the movies. And the canon-ess of that is debateable, as (I think) it states that she used a wand for that magic. (Confunding whatshisname...) Dr. Galenos (talk) 01:46, January 1, 2014 (UTC)

There is before she started Hogwarts: "I've only tried a few simple spells myself..." --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 14:17, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Maiden name

Emma Watson said via Twitter (https://twitter.com/EmWatson/status/381382469679079424) that she thinks Hermione would have kept her maiden name. We've got no confirmation from Rowling on the subject either way (that I know of, might have missed it). Is Emma's word valid here? We're just assuming that Hermione took Ron's surname when she got married because that's what most witches in the series have done. Past performance is no guarantee of future results, and in my opinion if any woman in the series was to keep her maiden name it would be Hermione. Improbableone (talk) 00:09, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

I do agree that Hermione would be the most likely to keep her maiden name, but I dont think that the actor/actress who portrays a character counts as a cannon source here. Dr. Galenos (talk) 00:27, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

Whilst I don't think it has any canonical weight, should this be noted in the "Behind the scenes" section? Skteosk (talk) 17:55, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Actually now in the Quiditch World Cup, we have proof that she kept her maiden name. Rita Skeeter refers to her as "Hermione Granger", while she refers to Ginny as "Ginny Potter". Here's the link [[1]] and the article is "Rita Skeeter 1.31"

Skyquill4605 (talk) 18:44, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Marital status

On the page it says that Hermione was married as of 2017, but the birth of her first child Rose Weasley was 2006. I do believe that Ron and Hermione got married before having their first and second child.

Just for the avoidance of doubt (I'm finding it slightly hard to believe this is even necessary, but you know the Internet…), what that means is that when we last see her (in the Epilogue in 2017) she is married: it says absolutely nothing about how long she has been married. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 09:21, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

Surname

I'd like to request that the next time anyone add "Hermione Weasley (nee Granger)" to please add a source. The epilogue doesn't call her "Hermione Weasley", and nor does Rowling's site. It's perfectly legal to keep one's maiden name after marriage and there's no indication Hermione didn't do so; to the contrary, there is a source already listed for her being "Hermione Granger" even after marriage. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 00:15, March 10, 2014 (UTC)

As JK Rowling continues to name her as Hermione Granger (in contrast with Ginny who is always now called 'Ginny Potter'), I think it important that the site reflect Rowling's use (as in the latest Daily Prophet report on Pottermore 8/7/14) as canon.  The Harry Potter wiki should ONLY refer to her as Hermione Granger as that is the only name ever used in canon sources.  Women do not automatically have their named changed upon marriage, as Hunnie Bunn has pointed out, and many choose not to.  I think we can accept that Hermione would be a woman to keep her own name. FlooSky (talk) 19:41, July 8, 2014 (UTC) FS

Well, I agree for the most part. Luna, Fleur and Hermione have their maiden names in the article, possibly suggesting they did not change their last names, while it's now canon that Ginny did change hers (Hannah Abbott perhaps did too, since her last name isn't mentioned). On the other hand, Ginny's a reporter and Rita Skeeter may be familiar with her having changed her name because it appears in the paper, while she might refer to Hermione, Fleur and Luna as Granger, Delacour and Lovegood respectively because those are the names she knows them by. I'm not sure however, what is the reason it was changed back to Weasley née Granger in the article? Chanpuruuu (talk) 18:25, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

To my "perfect" Hermione?

I'm not sure I'd agree with J.K.Rowling's opinion on Emma Watson being a "perfect" Hermione Granger. In the first two films she did a perfect, or at least an excellent job. In the third film she still looks like Hermione, but her choice of clothing isn't very "Hermione" like when you compare it with what she is said to wear in the books. It wouldn't be too bad if Emma hadn't suddenly become not very Hermione like in terms of her acting. By the fourth film Emma seems to have lost her Hermione touch both visually and personality wise. In the fifth film her hair gets lighter and by the seventh and eighth films she has little else to recommend her acting of Hermione besides her intelligence and knowledge. Yes it is J.K. Rowling's opinion and not mine that matters, I know, but I'm sure that there are other people who would agree with what I've said, infact I have seen similar comments made by others on different sites. C.Syde (talk | contribs) 07:40, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Mugglenet birthday archive

I would like to point out that the footnote "Mugglenet birthday archive" is no longer valid, so are all the birthday archives. AB Ng Talk 07:54, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

Hermione Weasley?

I noticed that in her profile book it says Hermione Jean Weasley (nee Granger). However, the books never state that she took Ron's name. And, on Pottermore, when she was mentioned in the Daily Prophet, after marriage, she was still always reffered to as Hermione Granger. Also, she seems like the type of person who would be proud to keep her Muggle name. Thanks you, Allsevenbooks (talk) 22:34, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

We assume women take the husband's name after marriage. We do not have evidence that Hermione did not take Ron's name after her marriage. AB Ng Talk 04:27, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, we do. By 2014-07-08, Ron and Hermione are married, but Hermione is still referred to as "Granger", unlike Ginevra Potter who isn't "Weasley" anymore. Luna Scamander (talk) 08:25, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

When a woman marries, we assume she takes her husband's name. There is no evidence that Hermione did not take Ron's name after marriage. Even though at Pottermore, her surname is Granger, a woman can use her maiden name or married name after marriage. E.G.: J.K. Rowling, Rowling is her maiden name, but at some circumses, she uses Joanne Murray, which is her married name. And Harry's mother, Lily, she took James' name and the name shown one the grave is Lily Potter but Snape refered her as Lily Evans. The same for Ginny, she took Harry's name, but we can also refer her as Ginny Weasley. We cannot rule out that Hermione did not take the Weasley name just because Rita uses the Granger name. AB Ng Talk 10:27, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

By that logic, you might want to change the lede in Minerva McGonagall to "Madam Professor Minerva Urquart (née McGonagall)". I do agree with assuming she took her husband's name, as long as there isn't evidence to the contrary (e.g. Fleur Weasley, Nymphadora Lupin), but in this case there is evidence to the contrary. It's perfectly legal for a woman to keep her maiden name. Lily and Ginny are referred to as Evans and Weasley when talking about periods of their life in which they were called that, and it's possible that Snape generally called Lily "Evans" more often because he knew her (almost) exclusively under that name and probably didn't like to remind himself that she married James Potter. Luna Scamander (talk) 10:35, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Might I also point out that actor's comments have been taken as canon before, and Emma Watson says Hermione kept her maiden name ... once in a Twitter comment and once in an interview with J. K. Rowling, in which she was not contradicted. This, in addition to the Pottermore information, should override any "We should assume because there's [not enough] evidence" objections being brought up. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 12:05, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

This fits Hermione's character, as she eventually becomes proud to be muggleborn. Goofyd00d (talk) 17:35, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

Recent Change

I wanted to describe my change in more detail. I removed "She was one of only two to master the Shield Charm in the DA, along with Neville."

This is a misinterpretation. OotP is simply praising Neville's progress. Its states that he masters it so quickly that he was second only to Hermione.  This means that he basically mastered it first, as Hermione mastered everything first. This is not intended to mean that only those two mastered the charm. Further proof can be found in HBP, where while touring Weasley's Wizard Wheezes Fred and George mention that a surprising number of people can't cast a shield charm, since they didn't have Harry teaching them.  This infers that F&G also mastered it at least, especially since they made a product that utilizes the charm.

Goofyd00d (talk) 21:14, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

Hermione's first wand, anyone know what happened to it?

After it was confiscated by the snatchers it was never given back in the books. Does JKR ever address this?  Does she get a new one, or did participating in a duel where Bellatrix was defeated change the wands alliance?Goofyd00d (talk) 18:20, January 14, 2015 (UTC)

Skin color

They were there, both of them, sitting outside Florean Fortescue's Ice Cream Parlor -- Ron looking incredibly freckly, Hermione very brown, both waving frantically at him.

Could Hermione have had a different skin color than depicted in the movies? Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 23:47, February 16, 2015 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure that just means that Hermione, having spent a summer on holiday in a warm place, was tan, especially compared to what he was accustomed to - otherwise, Harry likely wouldn't have commented on Hermione's brownness. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 00:39, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

A lot of people are "fairly sure" about Hermione's ethnicity, but JKR seems to be more flexible. What does the book explicitly say about Hermione's physical characteristics? We know she has brown bushy hair, brown eyes, and (initially) buck teeth. Anything else that's "for sure" rather than "fairly sure"? - Kwijybo (talk) 14:48, December 23, 2015 (UTC)

Also known as

Can we find sources for all of these, please? I am fairly certain that " 'Mione " only ever appears in badly-researched fan-fiction, and I'm dubious about "Herm-i-own". When did Rita Skeeter call her "Bored Yawn"? Was that at the 2014 Quidditch World Cup? —Phil | Talk 14:08, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Viktor Krum calls her "Herm-i-own" in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, until she corrects him. (Out of universe, this was J. K. Rowling's way of indicating the pronunciation to those readers who were likewise getting it wrong.) — RobertATfm (talk) 19:07, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Skin colour, revisited

As mentioned in "Skin colour" section above, Hermione was described as being "very brown" when Harry saw her in Prisoner of Azkaban. Initially I had assumed this was because of a summer tan being in a warm, sunny place.

However, J. K. Rowling recently had this to say on Twitter, in response to the casting of Noma Dumezweni as Hermione in Harry Potter and the Cursed Child: "Canon: brown eyes, frizzy hair and very clever. White skin was never specified. Rowling loves black Hermione". This, coupled with the above, seems to indicate that perhaps Hermione's skin was dark after all.

This, on the other hand, is combated by a drawing claimed by fans to have been done by Rowling depicting Hermione as white and by the Prisoner of Azkaban quote "Hermione's white face was sticking out from behind a tree" (this, however, may have been a figure of speech referring to Hermione's fear, rather than an indication of skin colour).

Should we keep the skin colour as light because of the movies, or should it perhaps be changed based on this new evidence? --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 15:28, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

Some of what Rowling says is to get some fans excited, she doesn't like to shut things down with definitive answers.  I agree that white skin wasn't specified, but on dark skinned characters, dark skin was specified, and she had plenty of time to specify.  Hermoine coming back from France tanned is backed up by Umbridge asking Hagrid why he was still pale after spending a summer there.

I feel that she would not have allowed them to cast a white actor into the role in the movies if she was indeed dark skinned.

Goofyd00d (talk) 19:07, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

It's not entirely true that Hermione's skin colour wasn't specified in the series, there are lots mentions of her going pink in the face, and several other mentions of her being pale or white in the face (there's that PoA quote, but there's also: "“Harry, come on, move!” Hermione had seized the collar of his jacket and was tugging him backward. “What’s the matter?” Harry said, startled to see her face so white and terrified." (Goblet of Fire, Chapter 9); "Nobody spoke for a while, not even when they heard the distant crash that meant Grawp had pulled over the pine tree at last. Hermione’s face was pale and set." (Order of the Phoenix, Chapter 30); "“But — but where? How?” said Hermione, whose face was white." (Order of the Phoenix, Chapter 32); "“He’s fainted,” said Hermione, who was also rather pale; she no longer looked like Mafalda, though her hair was still gray in places." (Deathly Hallows, Chapter 14); "Hermione was wrapped in a borrowed dressing gown, pale and unsteady on her feet; Ron put an arm around her when she reached him" (Deathly Hallows, Chapter 24).)

Rowling is endorsing a black person being cast, in a time when there's so much talk of race representation in media. That's not a canonical statement, really -- we must also remember that she gave her a-ok to dark-haired Dursleys (Petunia and Dudley were blonds), dark-haired Neville (who was also blond), a blue-eyed Harry (needless to say, his eyes were green), a blue-eyed Voldemort (red eyes), a clean-shaven Slughorn (no enormous, silver, walrus-like moustache in sight), and a complete list would just go on and on. If anything, this speaks more of just how much of an awesome and unprejudiced person Rowling can be. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 20:06, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

You realize that all of those quotes you just provided don't specifically work as skin colour but are expressions right? Using the phrase "Face is white" is common in any book for a character who is frightened, be it black or even a blue skinned creature. The phrase "Pink in the face" is used in any book as a way to say they are blushing. Being pale doesn't instantly make someone white, I know plenty of pale black people. I think JK left the description of Hermione's skin colour out so people could make it their own, so we as fans could imagine her as we felt fit. For Hermione's page, skin colour should be left out, or maybe state undefined in the books, caucasian in the movies and black in the play? It'd be better then leaving it defined based on such lack luster quotes from the books. - Unsigned by User:Alpha Lycos

Not that it really matters since it's a book and you are meant to imagine the world, but you may have to go deeper to appease the revisionists that will want to fight over this, Seth Cooper. For instance, how many characters specifically had ethnicity/skin tone mentioned? Of those described as dark skinned, did Rowling ever use the 'white face'/'pink in the face'/'pale' descriptors for them? Surely there must be official artwork of the book Hermione as well. Perhaps 'Skin colour' should be changed to 'Complexion'? Then we could use 'pale' or whatever Rowling did use to describe her as in the books. Maresy Doats (talk) 07:58, December 23, 2015 (UTC)

Hermione tans, which black people don't. Black people aren't described as going white in the face. Also, she's white on Pottermore. -- Saxon 16:54, December 23, 2015 (UTC)

It makes for very awkward wording to say that someone who has a dark complexion went white in the face. Either way, I see Rowling's point -- that skin colour and ethnicity are irrelevant, and I wholeheartedly agree -- but that's, apparently, not how the character was originally envisioned. Even in Rowling's original handdrawn illustrations she is as pale as Harry and Ron: take this illustration for the "Midnight Duel" chapter of Philosopher's Stone (in which Dean Thomas was initially meant to join Neville and the trio) -- you can tell how Dean's skin colour was darkened and Hermione's wasn't.

It seems to be a case of an actor not matching the character's physical description, which isn't a big deal, really, it's happened loads of times before (and I'm sure no one liked Fiona Shaw's performance any less just because she didn't dye her hair blonde). All we should be caring about (and I'm sure all that Rowling cares about) is that Noma Dumezweni plays the part well. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 17:58, December 23, 2015 (UTC)

Is it really so difficult to distinguish book!Hermione from movie!Hermione, videogame!Hermione and now from play!Hermione? This is just another branch of available canon for us to deal with, just like the others, and we'll cope, OK? —Phil | Talk 18:20, December 23, 2015 (UTC)

The way I see it, JK Rowling imagined Hermione as being white. The illustrations, physical descriptors (which, as pointed out above, would sound really awkward if used to describe someone with dark skin) and the casting for the movies. I'm pretty sure that if Rowling intended for Hermione to be dark skinned, then she would have mentioned it at some point. Characters who are dark skinned, such as Dean Thomas, are usually explicitly mentioned to be so. That being said, it's clear that Rowling is open to leave it unspecified for the sake of inclusivity, which is good and fine. As such, I suggest we leave Hermione's skin colour as "unspecified". The Wikia Editor (talk) 23:53, December 25, 2015 (UTC)

I feel that it should changed to and kept as white, there has been more than enough evidence collected, this is just a case of mismatched actors. Rowling was backed in a corner when she made her statement, if she disagreed she would have been ostracized. She has mention in an interview that Hermoine was an exaggerated version of herself as a kid. I feel changing it for this rather than at least putting 2 lines for "White: Book, Movie" and "Black: Play" lowers the integrity of the wiki. We are supposed to provide as much info as possible, and unspecified is as little as possible. Goofyd00d (talk) 01:18, December 26, 2015 (UTC)

I think that based on the fact that J.K. Rowling has gone on record saying the play is canon to the books (which the movies, of course, aren't), we should assume the characters in the books resemble the actors in the play. All the evidence cited here in defence of the "Hermione is white" viewpoint is either non-canon or opinion-based, so it doesn't hold up in the face of the clear evidence presented in the play. Based on the available evidence, I'd have to conclude Hermione is black in the books, white in the movies. It's as simple as that. Fantastic! Allons-y! Geronimo! 22:12, January 3, 2016 (UTC)

It did say that Hermione was brown at one point in the books, but that is not an adequate enough bit of evidence to confirm that she really is black in the books. It could just have meant that she'd had a sun tan, or that her hair was brown or something.

Your suggestions are all speculation. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 06:55, January 4, 2016 (UTC)

Like the movies, Rowling was not in charge of casting with the play. So while the script may be canon, the actors aren't. Plays are one long giant live take, the actors/actresses are chosen because it was decided that they could portray their character consistently enough to succeed in that environment, actor/actress mismatches are common due to this. Also the book sleeves portraying Hermione as white, you know, the ones literally attached to the books, are not opinion based evidence. Goofyd00d (talk) 08:22, January 4, 2016 (UTC)

Changed her name - or not?

Although Rita refered to her as Hermione Granger, the new Pottermore information on the casting of the cursed child play refers to her as Hermione Weasley. Should we assume that she changed her last name then?--Rodolphus (talk) 15:44, December 21, 2015 (UTC)