Talk:Hazel Showham

Does anyone have other photos of the actress Hazel Showham (not from the Harry Potter films)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 109.184.7.151 (talk • contribs).

Does anyone know the filmography of Hazel? User: Septima Vector

Professor Vector

This website lists Hazel Showham as the actress who played Professor Vector. If you look at it, she does seem to be her (more than the Unidentified female Hogwarts teacher does) -- look at the dark circles under both Showham's and "Vector"'s eyes. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 21:20, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

She is Septima Vector!!! Lestrange97 21:53, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, Hazel Showham plays Vector. But who in the world said Showham played the unidentified female Hogwarts teacher? --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 22:02, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

So, she is or she isn't Septima Vector?Lestrange97 12:32, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

So I think that it is time to merge the page Septima Vector and Unidentified female Hogwarts teacher, as Hazel played a teacher in the Goblet of fire, Order of the phoenix and the half-blood Prince and deathly hallows part 2. And now it became known that all the same it had played a Septima Vector in the Philosopher's stone, and consequently also in the rest of the films Unidentified female Hogwarts teacher remains professor Vector. Not in vain Unidentified female Hogwarts teacher appears in red robes, and this is directly connected with the professor Vector. Septima Vector 19:45, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

The page should be moved if you can provide convicing, verifiable evidence that the actress who plays the Unidentified female Hogwarts teacher is Hazel Showham. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 18:50, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Don't you see that between Hazel Showham and actress who played Septima Vector nothing to do there? If you saw the same bags under the eyes, it does not mean that it is. In the first form the nose of the actress playing Septima Vector and Hazel Showham different, second Hazel and Unidentified female Hogwarts teacher is one person. You need to be very blind if this does not notice. And thirdly I can also create some left the site and write that Hazel Showham played Minerva McGonagall. You believe it? The site to which you refer, WITHOUT EVIDENCE, is not CANON. Septima Vector 20:09, January 17, 2012 (UTC

First, the photos of Septima in Quidditch are not the same person with the one is in the Great Hall, they are so different.And, second, how so can say that Hazel played Septima Vector?, they aren't similar, Septima is younger and of course, Hazel portrayed Unidentifed Female Hogwarts Teacher in all her appearances.Lestrange97 17:14, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Here compare can then up to you all come that the actress who plays the Septima Vector is not Hazel Showham.

"Hazel portrayed Unidentifed Female Hogwarts Teacher in all her appearances". Your source being? Just because you say it as fact, it does not necessarily mean it is. I've managed to provide an external source (and Aveleyman is just as reliable as other film actors sources we use, such as IMDb — and perhaps even more so, as it cannot be freely edited), what's your source that Showham played anyone in Goblet of Fire, Order of the Phoenix, Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows: Part 2? I am not even going to get into the fact that Vector and the "Unidentified teacher"'s facial features have distinguishable factors (i.e. their cheeks, and their eyebrows).

"WITHOUT EVIDENCE, is not CANON" — at least this we can agree in. I am stating where I got my information from, you, on the other hand, are building your case on the similarities of an extra's nose with a background character's, coupled with a nonsensical desire to name that "Unidentified female Hogwarts teacher" no matter what. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 17:55, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

The Unidentified female Hogwarts teacher isn't only a background character, because is the one who has appeared ion more than two films. Also, we have found information her page building a quite complete page for a character that doesn't appear in any book.Lestrange97 18:21, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Our LEGO article states that Vector appears in Lego 5-7 for NDS. How does she look like in the game? Does she resemble the one from 1-4?--Rodolphus 18:26, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Lestrange97: Yes, she is, by definition. The fact that she features many times in the background (and that's why we have written such a long article) doesn't make her a more important character. Anyway, what does that add to the argument? --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 19:46, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

We really should divert our attention to more constructive endevours. It's difficult to express just how ridiculous the obssesion with this woman is getting. She's an extra. She has no prominent role, or speaking part in the films whatsoever! We don't even know if she's a Hogwarts teacher. She could be the bloody gardner for all we know! To the point at hand, no, Hazel Showham did not portray the "unidentified teacher/gardner/nurse/cook/cleaner whatever. The evidence being that (apart from both having brown hair) they look nothing whatsoever alike. Jayden Matthews 19:54, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Of course we have, we have Hazel Showham's photo, where it's toataly clearly how similir is she with the Unidentified teacher Lestrange97 20:00, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Simmilar here having the opposite meaning than usual? Jayden Matthews 20:05, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don't understand what did you want to say? Lestrange97 20:08, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

I was being sarcastic, so never mind. Jayden Matthews 20:10, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, great. So, she is or she isn't the Unidentified Female Hogwarts Teacher? Lestrange97 20:24, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

They're quite clearly different women. Jayden Matthews 20:28, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Do you really think so? I don't, look, in the film she appear younger thanks the makup. Lestrange97 20:56, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

If I thought she looked like my Chemistry teacher, would it make her so? My point is that we need sources to provide claims of that nature. "She looks like so-and-so", while it might be a contributing factor when recognising canon, is worthless on its own. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 21:21, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

If Vector appears in years 5-7, wouldn´t her physical appearance confirm that the unidentified one is or isn´t Vector?--Rodolphus 21:29, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Yes I think so. And Cooper, It's not enough with the page of Hazel Showhan in Wikipedia? Lestrange97 21:32, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean by that, but Wikipedia has no article on Hazel Showham, and even if it did it would not be considered a reliable source. Jayden Matthews 10:39, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, the wikipedia source isn't reliable, and the one that Seth Cooper gave us, saying Hazel portrayed the witch in the first film, it's really reliable?Lestrange97 14:06, January 18, 2012 (UTC)