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The names[]

How do you know the wizards in the army? I searched for them in Google but couldn't find any information.

Dustbin 14:36, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

They're fanon names and have been removed. Thanks for pointing it out. - Cavalier OneGryffindorcrest(Wizarding Wireless Network) 14:56, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Parallels?[]

Is it worth mentioning the possible parallel between Grindelwald's army, and the then German Nazi army who was in power?  Rowling has been known in the past to use parallels and symbolysm in her work, so while it's something of a theory, it may be worth noting the possible connections. One thing that seems to support this is Grindelwald's defeat falls right in line with Adolf Hitler's demise. Kabukikitsune (talk) 10:25, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

"Enemies" section[]

Just wondering: does it make sense to list Muggles in the "Enemies" section of the Organisation Information?

I mean the muggles would certainly have had a thing or two to say about their plans, but as far as we know, no Muggles were ever aware of Grindelwald's existence or his aims. So technically Muggles can't have been among his enemies, simply because they weren't even aware of his existence (much the same as with Voldemort, really).

Sakkiko (talk) 01:34, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Capitalisation[]

The article title is "... army", having been briefly moved to "... Army" and back again, but the infobox is still "... Army". Does this need to be changed? Indeed, has "Gellert Grindelwald's Army" with a capital A ever been referred to as such in canon? — evilquoll (talk) 18:24, January 7, 2018 (UTC)

The article has been moved again (by the same user) to the capital-A spelling. Is the name canonically a proper noun (justifying the capital A), or is it just a description (small a)? — evilquoll (talk) 07:26, January 10, 2018 (UTC)
It's not canonically a proper noun yet. I agree with the word being kept in lower case. It's unknown whether they had their own name like the Death Eaters and the word army is a description of what they were, but this is the only place where I have seen it spelled with the capital-A spelling when it's not canon yet. - Kates39 (talk) 10:35, January 10, 2018 (UTC)

Official flag[]

I see someone on here re-created the flag of Voldemort-ruled Wizarding World that was presented in the Cursed Child. Would someone maybe be able to re-create the flag of Gellert Grindelwald's army that appeared druing San Diego Comic Con's show featuring Johnny Depp? Juraj103 (talk) 19:23, August 15, 2018 (UTC)

Acolytes of Grindelwald? (Spoiler)[]

Where is it said that the collective term for Grindelwald's followers were "The Acolytes of Grindelwald"? I did hear the word 'acolytes' used once, here, where it says that "Abernathy, Carrow, Krafft, Krall, Nagel and Rosier are Gellert Grindelwald’s inner circle of acolytes, who will do or sacrifice anything in service to their master’s nefarious cause.", but that sounded more descrptitive of those select few than - you know, naming the entire collective. Maester Martin (talk) 16:06, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

Agreed - restored name and moved info to Gellert Grindelwald's acolytes. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 19:56, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

Name[]

I don't think the name of the organisation is literally the "Alliance"... the pamphlet is just making a statement... If it said "Join the Cause" would the article have been moved to "Cause"? I would suggest moving/merging this into Grindelwald's acolytes. - Xanderen signature 15:38, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Does the pamphlet refer to its name capitalised as "Alliance"? If so, that would imply it's a proper noun. However, I don't know the answer, since I don't have access to The Archive of Magic: The Film Wizardry of Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald. But I do think merging some of this content could work for simplicity, I'm not sure how the two groups are considered separate. RedWizard98 (talk) 15:43, 7 January 2022 (UTC)7
Alliance pamphlet

The The Archive of Magic: The Film Wizardry of Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald document

This image does capitalise "the Alliance", so surely that would make it a proper noun? RedWizard98 (talk) 15:50, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
It's quite common to capitilize words in the headings of print media - you see it all the time in newspaper and magazine articles. I'm pretty sure "Join the Alliance" is just a headline... it could've just as easily said "Join the Rebellion", or "Join Your Fellow Wizards", or "Join Us"... - Xanderen signature 19:36, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello, everyone and happy new year! I'm back after my much needed haitus. :-)

Just to thorw my own ten cents in on this discussion, I also think the capitalisation of the word "Alliance" suggests it's the proper name for the group. I do not agree they should be merged, though. One is the rabble of his followers, who believes in Grindelwald, his ideology and preached desire for freedom for all wizards, while the acolytes are his inner circle. They're the ones he confides in and whom he trusts enough to display his more sinister side. WeaseleyIsOurKing89 (talk) 20:13, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Now that the film is out this subject should be revisited. There is no mention anywhere in SoD that Grindelwald's followers are called "the Alliance", or even that they have an official name... I don't think they do. They seem to be less of a rank-and-file organization, like the Death Eaters, and more of a "cult of personality" revolving around Grindelwald. The official FB websites makes references to Grindelwald's legions of followers and Grindelwald's acolytes, but nothing else.
As I stated above capitalization in the headline of print media does not always denote a proper noun. Dumbledore: Daft or Dangerous comes to mind, Umbridge Fired!... numerous examples. The pamphlet is just making a statement - Grindelwald's followers are an alliance: Join the Alliance. It is not what they actually call themselves. The pamphlet in question never even appears in CoG. - Xanderen signature 09:17, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
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