Talk:Edessa Sakndenberg

Name

Is she really called Mirabile Visu? From this image, I think I can make out "Sakndenberg" on the right side of the portrait, which, to me, sounds more like a surname than "Visu". Also, couldn't "mirable visu" be something like an epitaph referring to her beauty? --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 11:48, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Many surnames in the HP series aren't found in the real world and seem to have been invented as puns. However, "Sakndenberg" is on the left side of the portrait, which supports the theory that it, and not Visu, is her surname, as English is read left-to-right. The text before "Sakndenberg" is apparently "Eoessa" - it zooms in on this part of the portrait at the end of the Quest of Sir Cadogan feature, but as I don't have my DVDs with me at the moment, I can't take a picture of it. ★ Starstuff ^{(Owl me!)} 19:18, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

I found this character's name inscribed on the wood paneling in Trelawney's classroom in the PoA film. However, in that image, the spelling of her name is "Skanderberg," not "Sakndenberg." ★ Starstuff ^{(Owl me!)} 17:09, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

• I suspect that the form "Sakndenberg" continues an old typo by whoever in the film prop-makers made the page with the name on. The name Skanderberg looks like a slight change to the real-world name Skanderbeg. AnthonyAppleyard 05:41, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

• "mirabile visu" is a Latin expression meaning "wonderful to behold". Anthony Appleyard 05:01, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Date of Death

There seems to be a date of birth and death on this portrait, and I seem to be able to make out "1515" for the death. --Parodist 23:00, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I had already seen that, but I cannot make out the text immediately before 1515... --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 23:03, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

I found a higher quality version of her portrait. The text between her name and motto actually says, "Anno 1503," and as anno means "in the year" in Latin,[1] it presumably indicates the portrait was painted in 1503. ★ Starstuff ^{(Owl me!)} 09:16, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Move?

• Move this page to Eoessa Skandenberg? How much evidence is there for each spelling? Anthony Appleyard 05:06, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Etymology

The etymology describes Eoessa, but is that right, when the name truely is Edessa?  Harry granger   Talk   contribs 20:19, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

• 'Eoessa' is Greek for "she who has dawn". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:44, March 18, 2013 (UTC)

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But her name is not Eoessa, it is Edessa.  Harry granger   Talk   contribs 15:00, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Template on the page

On this page is the "Youmay"-Template which leads to Skanderberg. But Skanderberg leads back to this page. Do we really need the template anymore then?  Harry granger   Talk   contribs 16:50, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

Spelling

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"Home Life and Social Habits of British Muggles" and the wood-paneling in Trelawney's classroom give her the surname of "Skanderberg". Plus, Skanderberg is an actual surname. I'd be inclined to believe that it is the correct spelling. -- Saxon 15:34, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

• Ditto. It is the real Albanian name Skanderbeg, plus an "r" after German names ending in "-berg". "Saknderberg" is almost certainly an old typo which people have run with. Move to Skanderberg. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:01, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Regardless, her portrait in Harry Potter Limited Edition clearly gives her the surname of "Sakndenberg". It's fully possible they're two different people; nothing explicitly links them apart from the similar names and the fact that they're films-only characters. However, it's also likely "Sakndenberg" was simply a typo on the portrait... --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 19:26, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

I think that the portrait was probably a typo given such a similar name being used twice in other instances. -- Saxon 14:03, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Bumping. -- Saxon 19:39, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Bumping. -- Saxon 19:33, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Hi! I know there was no answer anymore. The rename template is okay, but to change without consense is a little bit aggressive! :-)  Harry granger   Talk   contribs 21:20, October 30, 2014 (UTC)