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Official source for name needed[]

Show me an official source for this character name. If not, it will be deleted as fanon. If he was credited as Boy 1 in PoA, and uncredited in OotP, then he has no official name. If the name is something that fans have given the character, then it is a fanon name. If no offical source is provided, then this entry will be deleted, or moved to an appropriate title such as Unnamed Student. - Cavalier One(Wizarding Wireless Network) 22:55, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

If no official source for this name is provided, I will move this page to Unidentified student on Sunday. Incidently, the character may not be the same in both films. He may be in a Gryffindor robe is PoA, but OotP screenshots uploaded to the wiki File:BemDA.jpg and File:Bem in the DA again.jpg show him with a Ravenclaw tie. - Cavalier One(Wizarding Wireless Network) 09:22, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

´ Isn´t the name Bem given in the subtitles of the DVD?--Rodolphus 16:20, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

According to the screenplay, it's Bem --Smonocco 16:45, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

The issue with that script is that it conflicts with the film dialogue at several points. For instance, right before Bem's line about catching Sirius Black, the script has two lines attributed to Lavender Brown:
NEVILLE
You don't think he'd come to Hogwarts, do you?
LAVENDER
With the Dementors at every entrance?
LAVENDAR [sic]
Dementors? He's already slipped by them once, hasn't he? Who's to say he can't do it again?
In the film, the first of those two lines is spoken by an unidentified Gryffindor boy who appears to be of Middle Eastern descent, and the second by Seamus Finnigan. Starstuff (Owl me!) 20:03, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Actually, Rodolphus is right. The name "Bem" is given in the closed captions on the Prisoner of Azkaban DVD during the scene in Trelawney's divination class, but not on the English subtitles. It makes sense, too, because the character is off screen at the moment his first line is spoken, so hearing-impaired people couldn't tell who was speaking if the captioners didn't give a name. Starstuff (Owl me!) 20:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Do other people feel the closed caption is sufficient evidence to change this article's name to Bem? Starstuff (Owl me!) 21:12, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
If the name is given in the closed captioning, then I feel that would be sufficient since it appears in the official licensed product. Personally, I would have found the script on the web a little bit suspect as it could easily be a first draft, or have been tampered with by the uploader. I will move the page to Bem based on this new evidence. - Cavalier OneGryffindorcrest(Wizarding Wireless Network) 06:52, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Appearance in OotP[]

Is there any confirmation that the character from OotP is Bem from PoA? I really don't think they are played by the same actor as they have quite different facial structures. The kid in PoA has a longer face than the one in OotP, or at least that's how it appears to me. Unless there's something other than the actor that suggests that they are the same character. If not, I really don't see how anyone could be sure. Christophee (talk) 00:12, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

It has been two years, Christophee. People do change. However, I didn't see any confirmation, but that doesn't really matter in my opinion. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 12:10, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm sure many of you saw on the X Factor that Paije Richardson portrayed the Ravenclaw student in OotP that has been rumoured to be Bem. I'm not sure whether this information is relevant for any of the articles on the wiki, but it does at least clear up whether it was the same actor from PoA or not. Christophee (talk) 00:03, November 15, 2010 (UTC)
Paije Richardson from The UK version of "The X-Factor" portrayed the Unidentified Ravenclaw student in OotP that has been rumoured to be Bem. None of this information is relevant for any of the articles on the wiki, but it does at least clear up whether it was the same actor who played "Bem" in PoA or not.

SeamusLover, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think the "Bem" in OotP is a recasting of the original Bem. I also think it should be noted that OotP "Bem" is wearing Ravenclaw robes in one scene, but Gryffindor in another. Kaesy Mereida Rowle (talk) 02:34, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

Ekow Quartey in PoA and not OotP...[]

I'm removing any reference to Bem appearing in the film adaption of OotP as neither IMDb, movietome, hollywood.com or Yahoo.movies credit Ekow Quartey to have been in in it and instead only have him listed as appearing in PoA, unless any sufficient evidence that this is the same character appears I think it should stay this way.

Bem PoA and "Bem" OotP look very different in my opinion, and I think just to be on the safe side to leave it unless evidence saying otherwise shows up. Patr0nus 20:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

ravenclaw[]

bem is clearly in ravenclaw in the 5th movie witch clearly contridicts the page right now. User:Penguinsfan101

Bem is not confirmed to even have appeared in the 5th movie, as Ekow Quartey (his actor) is only credited for the 3rd movie, the guy that looks like Bem in the 5th should not be considered Bem. Please read the rest of the Talk page, it'll fill you in. Patr0nus ( Expecto Patronum! ) 17:21, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't the same thing go to the sixth film's deleted scenes? --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 16:33, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Hogwarts choir 6th year[]

The "citation needed" tag has been on this article for quite awhile now, does anyone have a source that he was in the choir 6th year? --BachLynnGryffindorcrest(Accio!) 05:42, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

I think he was seen in the deleted Scene when the students sing in Noctem.--Rodolphus 10:06, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Does anyone remember the official Warner Bros. website of the second movie having a contest, with the winner having a role in the third film? I remember there being games to play...like pulling up mandrakes, and each day you could submit your e-mail for a shot at winning. I always believed "Bem" to be the winner of the contest, but I can't find any information on it...I'm not crazy, does anyone else remember this?

Year?[]

His page says "he is in Harry's year but does not dorm with him and his friends" - isn't it more likely he's in the year above Harry and had to repeat Divination for some reason? It seems very unlikely he'd be in Harry's year. MiakoSamuio (talk) 14:29, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

GoF[]

I feel like i saw Bem as an extra in the scene of The Goblet of Fire, where Harry comes up when his name is called from the goblet of Fire. (JanzPotter (talk) 21:41, July 6, 2014 (UTC))

Deathly Hallows[]

Why is he on the cast list in the Deathly Hallows part 2 page?

The role of this character is purley a background character the fact that he has been givin a name and a role is purley fanon AlastairFearson (talk) 00:41, November 12, 2014 (UTC)alastairfearson

As this is the official hp wiki i think that bems page should be removed as he is a fan made character AlastairFearson (talk) alastairfearson

I'd beg to differ. "Bem" is a name given in the subtitles of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, from whence his role was derived; the movies are canon here on the HP wiki. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 00:56, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Boggart?[]

Bems page does not contain any boggart info. I believe his boggart would be a large plume of smoke with bear hands protruding from it. --Like trying to catch smoke with your bare hands (talk) 03:32, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Ghost[]

This is pure supposition, but does anyone wonder if he might in fact be a ghost? As the page has said, he's not a canon Gryffindor in that year, and he did seem to just appear out of nowhere and be very creepy in his utterings. I just wonder if he was from a few years before where he'd been killed, and he believed it was from seeing the Grim.Gleek:D (talk) 18:37, April 14, 2016 (UTC)

That's just speculative. He's a human being and was created specifically for the films, due to the removal of other characters from the film itself. The movie producers do this when the actors for specific characters are not available, not needed or that character isn't specifically needed in the film (despite appearing in the book). --Sajuuk 18:54, April 14, 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I explicitly said "This is pure supposition"- so you saying it's "just speculative" was expendable to say the least...Gleek:D (talk) 18:56, April 14, 2016 (UTC)

As was mentioned in the article Bem is Nigerian although Hogwarts accepts only English and Irish students made me create a theory, if Bem is doing an exchange?  Crαbbє 17:18, November 26, 2017 (UTC)

Canon[]

Whilst Bem being a Gryffindor boy in Harry's year, as depicted in the third film can definitely be considered not canon, can the fact that Bem is placed in Ravenclaw in the fifth year somehow remedy this, and make him basically canonical? I am not saying I think this character is canon, because I believe he most probably is not, but I think that perhaps this should be discussed again (if not done already in detail). RedWizard98 (talk) 08:54, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Bumping RedWizard98 (talk) 16:29, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
In Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery, Year 7, Chapter 16 (Trials and Tribulations), after Jacob's sibling is introduced to Victor Ketsueki, a Ravenclaw, they wonders whether he was recently transferred here. This suggests it may be a possibility that transfer students can still be Sorted into a House, unless, of course, Jacob's sibling's question is due to their ignorance and transfer students can't really be Sorted (we know that Alanza Alves is not). It's very unlikely, but still, maybe Bem is a transfer student here, and lives in a different dormitory (as the one Harry lives in is full), so he is not necessarily non-canon. MalchonC (talk) 07:07, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Just curiously, I'm not saying he is a transfer student or implied to be one, but do you think the fifth film changing his House to Ravenclaw would make him basically canonical? There are definitely no other Gryffindor boys in Harry's year. RedWizard98 (talk) 17:54, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Non-Canon status irrelevant due to Ravenclaw change[]

"Bem also makes an appearance as a member of Dumbledore's Army in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. His house was changed to Ravenclaw, probably to correct their mistake of putting him in Gryffindor previously. He appears in the credits as "Ravenclaw boy"."

The above information can be found in the "Behind the scenes" section. I view that as essentially a retcon and the most up to date information to go by. Therefore I believe that makes his non-canon status obsolete. KevinManning01 (talk) 18:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm quite stunned that this debate about the non-canon or canon status of this character has been ongoing since 2009. I see that the topic on this talk page, simply called 'ravenclaw,' shows a comment dated from that year. To quote the wise words of Prof. Horace Slughorn, 'I don't understand!'" This page seems contradictory due to the information provided above. Consequently, I strongly believe that the information from the 'behind the scenes' section is the most up-to-date information about this specific character. --KevinManning01 (talk) 21:18, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
As noted in these discussions above, there is no indication that 'Ravenclaw Boy"/"Dumbledore's Army Member" as portrayed by Ekow Quartey in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (film) must definitively be Bem/"Boy 1" from Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (film). He has no lines in OOTP|F so there are no subtitles here to definitively tie these characters together. Rather it may be like Warwick Davis who has several roles throughout the series, but really we just don't know one way or the other. The BTS text should be updated to make this distinction clear instead of assuming that "Bem also makes an appearance" in OOTP|F; rather, it's that the same actor makes an unnamed appearance. As such, Bem from POA|F is still non-canon given the known number of Gryffindor boys in the same year as Harry. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 06:33, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
I see now, the Ravenclaw boy in the fifth film portrayed by the same actor may be intended to be a different character in the film. I've made the recommended changes. RedWizard98 (talk) 10:32, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Nationality[]

Bem is Nigerian. Here's the source: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban screenplay (scene 45 - Great Hall - continued (2) - As a flicker of fear passes through Harry's face, BEM, a Nigerian boy, stares grimly at the grainy image of Black). Peregino (talk) 13:17, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

This is already referenced in the article. -  MrSiriusBlack  Talk  14:11, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
Yes, very cleary in fact. RedWizard98 (talk) 17:25, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
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