Talk: Beauxbatons Academy of Magic

Question - Where does the crest pictured here come from? I ask because the coat of arms is supposed to be two crossed wands that are shooting sparks. Am I wrong about this, are there two coats of arms? Mafalda Hopkirk 19:39, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

The copyright statement on the bottom says Warner Bros. (Its really small, but readable.) -- DarkJedi613 ^(Talk) 20:09, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

My thoughts on that is we might want to exchange it for a crest that is more in keeping with what the book says the crest looks like. Is there one available perhaps? Mafalda Hopkirk 20:12, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

If there are no official pictures of the crest than the movie version is the most "canon" version available. In addition< i would say perhaps if there is a different available add it (as in in addition to) the current picture. -- DarkJedi613 ^(Talk) 20:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

That's a good idea. I personally can't stand the way the movies change things like that from the book, but I agree they should both be featured if possible. Mafalda Hopkirk 20:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Age of Admission

Could someone fit it into the article that Beaxbatons admits students as young as 8 years old? That was the age of Gabrielle Delacour in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (film), where she can be clearly seen in a school uniform. --Parodist 01:50, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

That may be conflicting canon, though. In HBP, Fleur criticizes the O.W.L.s testing system in 5th year, saying that Beaxbatons doesn't sit their major tests until 6th year. - Nick O'Demus 10:51, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

It could be the case that Beauxbatons has an affiliated junior school for primary education. This would explain both the age of Gabrielle and the statement regarding sixth-year O.W.L.s. Sings-With-Spirits 21:11, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

We know so little about Beauxbatons that it's difficult to know what to add. We know for certain that Beauxbatons sits their major test in their sixth year, but for all we know, their first year could be when they're eight and their sixth when they're 14. --Parodist 13:06, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

That cannot be the case; Fleur is at least 17 years old (she must be in order to be selected for participation in the tournament), so she would be in her 9th year. Besides, the average Hogwarts student at the fifth-year O.W.L.s is 16 years old, two years older than Parodist's estimation of a 'sixth-year' Beauxbatons student, so Fleur's comment would seem to be pointless. Sings-With-Spirits 21:11, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

You mistook what I said. Hogwarts students, who start school when they are ELEVEN are around fifteen or sixteen in their fifth year, but IF Beauxbaton's students began at age EIGHT then they would be fourteen in their sixth year of schooling. --Parodist 22:31, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I think we can say for sure that Beauxbatons starts earlier. In Lego Harry Potter, it is shown that she has a wand at the age of 8 and she can cast the spells the Hogwarts students can cast.--Rodolphus 10:31, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Although Lego Harry Potter is hardly what could be considered a reliable authority on canon, we must keep in mind that young wizards or witches MUST receive some sort of education (magical or otherwise, at the very least reading and writing) prior to entering a school for magical learning. While Hogwarts does not provide this early learning, Beauxbatons might; accepting and educating young girls before they receive their wands. Sings-With-Spirits 14:07, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

The games are a source of canon if they don´t contradict the films and books.--Rodolphus 14:12, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Considering that the book describes her as; "...a girl who looked no older than eight..." without actually revealing her actual age, it is possible that she is, in fact, older than eight and just looks younger due to her veela heritage or other factors. I know that when I was in high school I could still pay child's price in movie theaters and was still being carded well into my thirties. Is Gabrielle a playable character in the game? Sings-With-Spirits 19:14, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, she is.--Rodolphus 19:24, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

The presence of any individual as a playable character in a game is not evidence of that individual's actual abilities, thus not qualifying for canonicity any more than Lily's ghost wandering Hogwarts. Sings-With-Spirits 19:59, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Academy and Palace

In the Yule Ball chapter of Goblet of Fire, Fleur refers to it as "The Palace of Beauxbatons." Would it be reasonable to split into one page entitled "Beauxbatons Academy of Magic," and another entitled "Palace of Beauxbatons," much like we did with Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry and Hogwarts Castle? The school itself and the building it is taught in are, after all, two entirely different things. --Parodist 01:53, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Houses

Sources that there are 5 houses? -- Ratneer ^{Owl Me!} 23:28, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

One of their previous edits. Does that answer your question? - Nick O'Demus 23:30, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty much lol -- Ratneer ^{Owl Me!} 23:32, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

wht r u talkin bout, but anyway there might be houses in Beauxbatons like gryffindor 4 girls or sometin!! Philered WAS HERE! PEACE!

16:23, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Allison Devien

Student of Beauxbatons in the 70's. Murdered by Death Eaters in London.

Source? -- Ratneer ^{Owl Me!} 18:40, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Should "Beauxbatons" be spelled with a circumflex -- Beauxbâtons? Given the apparent French etymology.--140.160.106.42 19:41, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

No. Beauxbatons never had a circumflex in the books, which in the highest canon authority. DisturbedLemon 15:30, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Students

In the movie, it is all girls. In the books, it's both girls and boys,. Same for durmstrang, except in the movies it's all boys.Ewokscanfly (talk) 19:50, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

The Palace

In the portion of the article where it is speculating where the school is from could someone fit in that the students spoke French in he Goblet of Fire? Pbub2 (talk) 22:43, July 20, 2013 (UTC)Pbub2 17:42, July 20, 2013

I don't see any reason why a brief mention of it couldn't be made. I'll add it in. ProfessorTofty (talk) 23:12, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Pottermore info

Can anyone insert Pottermore's new info about Beauxbatons? Thank you. NazivonS (talk) 15:10, January 16, 2014 (UTC)

Contradiction

Accoriding to an old interview with Rowling, Beauxbatons is "somewhere near Cannes". Pottermore says it's in the Pyrenees. A simple look at a map of France shows an issue here, namely that Cannes is nowhere near the Pyrenees. The nearest portion of the range is over 300 miles from Cannes, in fact. My question, however, is whether we consider this a contradiction on Rowling's part (and thus eliminate mention of Cannes in the main part of the article) or assume a broad definition of "somewhere near" and allow both to be canon (similar to how Hogwarts can be "not far" from both Dufftown and Achintee, 103 miles apart). -- 1337star ^{(Drop me a line!)} 03:02, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

I'd say Pyrenees trumps Cannes, merely because saying "it's in the Pyrenees, near Cannes" seems awkward at best and ridiculous at worst. Rowling has been known to review some of her previous statements when putting something up on Pottermore (i.e. Hufflepuff common room painting being replaced with "a stack of barrels in a nook on the right hand side of the kitchen corridor"). --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 03:08, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

Castle

is beauxbatons a castle like hogwarts is, and also do they have houses like hogwarts?Sarahgal1990 (talk) 00:51, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

It's a palace -- Palace of Beauxbatons. And no, it doesn't have houses. Also, the talk page is specifically to discuss the article and changes to the article, not the article's subject, thanks. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 02:03, February 9, 2015 (UTC)