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..was mine, I got booted during the course of editing. Mafalda Hopkirk 00:00, 20 November 2007 (UTC) ´

[edit] Skills image

We still need an image for "Magical abilities and Skills". My personal favourite would be a moving one of him casting Morsmordre, which we also could use for the spell´s article.

--Rodolphus 12:22, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Barty Crouch, Jr. achieved 12 O.W.L.s?

People want to edit into his article that he achieved 12 O.W.L.s. Their only source for this seems to be (because I cannot remember any other place where it was stated, and I listened to the audiobook just days ago) the part of the book where Barty Crouch, Sr., clearly delusional while under the Imperius curse, babbles on about a lot of things, including that "just the other day", Jr. got 12 O.W.L.s. This is hardly proof or a reliable source. Crouch also claimed that Percy (or, as he put it, "Weatherby") was there with him and that Crouch's wife was still alive. Are we to assume that Crouch's wife was indeed alive and that everyone who claims he died in Azkaban in her son's guise is lying? It sounds to me like Crouch was just being deluded by the Imperius curse into thinking he was leading a perfect life, or something close to it, a life where he was a big-wig at the Ministry, where his wife was still alive and where his son had gotten top marks at Hogwarts. Now, if anyone can find another source for Jr.'s prowess, then it should go into the article. If they can't, I say it shouldn't. It's hardly reliable evidence. FallenAngelII 17:59, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

It is not specified whether Crouch was delusional or delirious, and yes there is a difference. When Crouch believed he was talking to Percy, he was discusing the preperations for the Tournament, which he WAS involved in. It's entirely possible that he was recalling a legitimate past conversation he'd had regarding his son's O.W.L.'s. As there's nothing that says Crouch Jr. DIDN'T earn 12 O.W.L.s, it should still be considered canon, although I have already changed the wording so that it is regarded as merely being mentioned instead of definitive. - Nick O'Demus 18:08, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
"There is nothing to say he didn't earn 12 O.W.L.'s, thus it's proof". Only it isn't. A lot of things are possible. Supposed encyclopedias (Wikis) should not be dealing with rampant speculation. A lot of people lied about themselves at the Quidditch World Cup when talking to the Veelas. Are we to believe Stan Shunpike really was on his way to becoming the youngest Minister For Magic ever because he said it and nothing in the books openly denies this? FallenAngelII 18:12, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox Image

I think we should put an image from 1995 (maybe this 230px-BartyCrouchJrInterrogation.jpg), because the actual in from 1980s- --El Profeta Vespertino 17:27, September 4, 2009 (UTC)