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From this can we say that Dippet directly succeeded Black and was Dumbledore's predecessor? He's the only known male headmaster between the two, fits easily, and with the Daily Prophet of 1926 (which is after Black died), he seems to fit the bill for headmaster of the time. If so, then we know Dippet's years in office; 1925 - 1965/1971, a tenure of 40 to 45 years. Your thoughts? --HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 18:36, November 18, 2016 (UTC)

Couldn't it be possible that there were other Headmasters between Black and him? A complete list of all Headmasters has never been revealed, so I think we can't exclude that it was someone unknown. --Rodolphus (talk) 18:56, November 18, 2016 (UTC)


Didn't Rowling write somewhere that a Headmaster/Headmistress had to die in office to get their portrait up, drawing parallels with the gallery of British monarchs or something like that? Ninclow (talk) 01:55, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

As has been discussed repeatedly, she was joking - the exact quote from her Carnegie Hall talk:
"So all the portraits you see in the headmaster’s study are all headmasters and mistresses who died, it’s like British royals. You only get good press if you die in office. Abdication is not acceptable, particularly if you marry and [sic] American. I’m kidding! [laughter] I digress." (emphasis mine)
While you may not like it, several others have already weighed in on this repeatedly and the community consensus is to go by the dates given in Harry Potter Limited Edition and Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (film). Why do you insist on revisiting this (despite the previous outcomes)? --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:17, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
First off, I think you misintepreted the joke. The joke, obviously, is NOT that "it’s like British royals. You only get good press if you die in office." or "abdication is not acceptable" the joke was "particularly if you marry and [sic] American" How do I know this for certain? Because she apologise for the digress and goes on about how "I thought this one through, because it was very important to me, I know Harry would have insisted that Snape’s portrait was on that wall, right beside Dumbledore’s." No Headmaster known in canon ever married an American, so OBVIOUSLY she was not referring to them or their portraits when she said that she was kidding. Her Carnegie Hall talk took place on October 20, 2007. The film adaptation of Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, however, came out five years earlier. However awesome you find the "Harry Potter Limited Edition", not only does the information within come from the movie productions, which Rowling not necessarily always was involved in where props are concerned, but the source stating Dippet died in 1992 that appears in this new book dates back to five years after Rowling answered that question. Of COURSE she didn't joke about the headmasters and headmistress having to die in office to get in office to get a portrait, with Snape beng a notable exception due to his percieved abandonment of the post yet later proven alligiance. What kind of author of any book or books would do that? What kind of author wouldn't have the sufficent respect for their fans to NOT take their seriously when discussing about the universe they created? I don't know, but Rowling aren't one of them. 
Secondly... Because the community consensus is wrong. Because Rowling's word is law unless it is I who point out something she says, and ecause it is a matter of principle: In recent years, almost every time, whenever I make an opinion known, whatever it is, regardless of whether I am right or wrong, one or more comes with some half-baked excuse because why I am wrong, and the MOMENT I post a counter-argument, the individual or individuals disagreeing have automathically half the wikia behind them plus at least one of the admins. And I am growing sick of feeling like an idiot because some educated literate start throwing logical fallacies or to sit left with the empty feeling that I am wrong about everything, not for a lack of understanding canon, but because the "majority", the "most people" tells me I am wrong. It feels like, more often than not, that I say the sky is blue because I spot a breach in the otherwise dark clowds, and everything everyone else see from where they stand is grey, and therere, there can be no blue sky. That's why I presist, dspite the previous outcomes.Ninclow (talk) 19:22, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
BUMP! Ninclow (talk) 20:13, September 12, 2017 (UTC)