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==Name==
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== Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore by Newt Scamander ==
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:No,his name is Albus Percival Wulfric BRIAN Dumbledore.{{Unsigned|Pol 871}}
 
   
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Grindelwald was known of one of the most evil dark wizards of Europe during the 20th Century, until ''He Who Must Not Be Named'' took his place. He was educated at ''Durmstrang'', the Northern Wizarding school which specialises in the Dark Arts, where Grindelwald grew as a legion. He was eventually expelled from the school because of his evil behaviour and he left to visit his aunt, ''Bathilda Bagshot'', Famous Historian and writer of :     ''A History of Magic, ''in her home at ''Godric's Hollow.''
   
:Also, Albus is the name of one of the Geomantic symbols and means "White".
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''Albus Dumbledore'', who was the same age as Grindelwald and lived next to him while he looked after his youger brother and sister, had struck up a friendship with Gellert and the communicated, sending owls to each other with letters about their ideas, known as ''The Greater Good''. They took a special interest in ''The Deathly Hallows'', which the sign of had been carved into a wall at Durmstrang by none other than the evil Gellert Grindelwald. In later stages of their friendship, Gellert Grindelwald left to further his powers after the death of ''Ariana Dumbledore, ''a girl known to have had magical problems caused by three Muggle boys who Ariana's father attacked and was sent and died in Azkaban for his crime.
:The parts of the UK theory still holds. One of the older names for Britain was
 
:Albion. Referring to the white cliffs.
 
:[[User:MorningstarLucifer|MorningstarLucifer]] 04:26, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
==Gandalf==
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Albus's brother, Aberforth, left as well and fought with his brother at their sister's funeral, blaming him for the cruel death of their sister, who did not attend ''Hogwarts school of Witchcraft and Wizardry ''at eleven years, but was consider and told to have been, "ill". Albus Dumbledore continued his brilliance and eventually had a scroll of his great achievments and honuarary awards. He was offered the post for Minister of Magic several times, but refused the job and said his life lay in teaching.
In reading through the biography I began to be reminded a little bit, would it be relevant to mention the similarities? Beyond obvious things like being bearded uberwizards, there's how they both specialize in fire magic, both sort of sacrifice themselves and fall to their doom, both help a tiny invisible boy defeat a dark lord who stored their life force in one of the rings they're wearing... [[User:Tyciol|Ty]] 06:00, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
While very true, and others may feel differently then me, but I don't think that the connection is really all that relevant. Although very similar, LOTR was written in an entirely fictional version of our world. Whereas Harry Potter is fictional, it is set in a more mirror image of our world. --[[User:BachLynn23|BachLynn23]] 21:53, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
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Meanwhile, Grindelwald was pursuing his view of The Greater Good and torturing Muggles as he gained power. Yet he was always recognised to have feared Dumbledore, so in 1945 the two magnificent wizards had a legendary duel battle and Dumbledore defeated Grindelwald. He then locked him up in his own prison, ''Nurmenguard'', (a cell for his enemies) , when in later stage he was killed by the Dark Lord. 
   
Might I add, Harry was only invisible when cloaked, Albus died before he fell, and when was Frodo or whoever invisible? [[Special:Contributions/94.4.163.60|94.4.163.60]] 21:12, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
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After his battle, Dumbledore bacame a Tranfiguration teacher at Hogwarts for Armando Dippet. Dumbledore then rose until he took the post of Headmaster. In 1997, he was killed by the Hogwarts potions teacher, Severus Snape, the death of Dumbledore had been planned between them, because Dumbledore was dying from a cursed Horcrux ring. Albus Dumbledore is one of the most remembered wizards in the ''Wizarding World''  and rests in peace at his ''Marble White Tomb, at Hogwarts, his home.''
   
== Dumbledore in Gryffindor? ==
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''~Nox~.''
   
Is there any quotable reference in the books that Dumbledore was indeed in Gryffindor? {{unsigned|98.237.178.82}}
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''-Griflytheruffleplaw''
   
:In the ''GoF'' movie, Dumbledore remarks to Harry while visiting him in his Gryffindor dormitory, "''I never liked these curtains. Set them on fire in my fourth year. By accident, of course.''" Per the [[HPW:CANON|Canon policy]] this qualifies as canon, as it doesn't directly conflict with the books. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;"> '''Seth Cooper''' </font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> '''owl post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 00:14, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
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== Death ==
::So it's from the movie! I saw this about the curtains in the article, but it's not referenced. [[User:Aryllia|Aryllia]] 17:36, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
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Is it ever explicitly stated that he died in June? It is a mere week or two after the attack on Draco Malfoy with Sectumsempra that Dumbledore dies, and unless I am much mistaken that happened in May. --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 00:58, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
   
:One doesn't have to be in Gryffindor to know of or set the curtains in the Gryffindor dormitory on fire. How do you know he didn't sneak in the Gryffindor dormitory and set the curtains on fire? [[Special:Contributions/71.255.80.157|71.255.80.157]] 06:23, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
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According to Scrimgeour (and Hermione) in ''Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows'' - Chapter 7 (''The Will of Albus Dumbledore''), the Ministry has the right to maintain possession of Dumbledore's bequests for thirty-one days only, in accordance with the Decree for Justifiable Confiscation. Dumbledore's bequests were delivered to Ron, Hermione and Harry on 31 July 1997: Harry Potter's seventeenth birthday. As it is referred in that chapter that the "thirty-one days are up", Dumbledore died exactly thirty-one days earlier, in the evening of 30 June. [[User:HarryPotterRules1|HarryPotterRules1]] ([[User talk:HarryPotterRules1|talk]]) 01:12, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
   
How shall he have come in? You need a passwort to get into the Gryffindor tower. Normally only Gryffindors do know that. [[User:Harry granger|Harry granger]] 12:17, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
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:How likely is it that the Ministry grabbed his stuff the night he died? It's generally agreed they took the possessions on the day of the funeral. We therefore know the funeral took place on [[30 June]], and that his death happened a few weeks prior to that. Therefore, it could be either very late May or very early June. --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 01:58, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
   
== is it true ==
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:The will would have been turned over to the ministry the moment he passed away, as wills do in the Muggle world too. They had the will for 31 days, thus he died at the end of June. [[User:HarryPotterRules1|HarryPotterRules1]] ([[User talk:HarryPotterRules1|talk]]) 02:27, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
is it true that dumbledore was gay? KLOKOCHAR 20:48, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
:Yes. Rowling revealed that Dumbledore was gay in an interview. You can read it [http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2007/10/20/j-k-rowling-at-carnegie-hall-reveals-dumbledore-is-gay-neville-marries-hannah-abbott-and-scores-more here]. - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 20:50, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
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::So, we know he died sometime in late [[June]], as per [[Betty Braithwaite]]'s newspaper article in the ''[[Daily Prophet]]''. We know the exams usually happen from the 1st to the 6th (except for [[1994]], where they happened around the 24th), and that they were postponed for a few days. They ended anywhere from three to seven days before the funeral, during which Harry, Ginny and the lot visited the hospital wing, and that they go on for a week. Thus, they ended anywhere from the 29th to the 25th, and thus began on either the 22nd or 18th. Is there any way of pinpointing a more exact death date? --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 22:30, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
:JK also said in that interview that him and grindeweld might have had a fling in that summer they were together wahoo!!!!!!!!!!!![[User:Shephard123|MINISTER]] 14:27, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
::Uh, no she didn't. Read it again. All she said was that Dumbledore had feelings for Grindelwald. She even said in a later inerview that Grindelwald didn't love Albus. [[Special:Contributions/70.249.153.203|70.249.153.203]] 17:07, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
:Also, in the interview, even though she states that Grindewald did not have feelings for Dumbledore, it is not clear what his orientation was --[[User:BachLynn23|BachLynn23]] 21:55, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
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==Master of Death==
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Should it not be pointed out that he was Master of Death, having possessed all three Hallows for a period of time. [[User:Pesa123456789|Pesa123456789]] ([[User talk:Pesa123456789|talk]]) 14:21, January 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
:Also Hagrid: "Come out t' th' shed wit' me, Harry, there's somethin' I want t' show ye..."
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:He did not, however, possess all three Hallows concurrently. He gave Harry the Cloak of Invisibility for Christmas in 1991, and only got the Ressurection Stone in the summer of 1996 (between the close of ''Order of the Phoenix'' and the start of ''Half-Blood Prince'', when he got [[Curse on Marvolo Gaunt's ring|his hand cursed]]). -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 15:39, January 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Main Image ==
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==Horcrux-Hunting==
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Just wondered, does anyone know where Dumbledore went when he got kicked out by Fudge and Dawlish and Umbridge and Weatherby?
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Dumbledore explicitly states in ''Order of the Phoenix'' that he wouldn't return to go to Grimmauld Place, nor would he be hiding. The comment "''Fudge will soon wish he'd never dislodged me''" is ambiguous for me, but I thought perhaps at that time he was beginning the hunt for Horcruxes? Or else heading around to question the Gaunts, Hokey and Ogden?--[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 15:46, January 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
Is there a way we can get an image of Dumbledore where we see MORE of him(like maybe to where we can see his beard)? I'm not trying to be controlling or anything, but whenever I go to this particular article, I would like to see a good image of Dumbledore as the main image(although in my case, a good image to where we see a lot of Dumbledore to where we at least see his beard). So, if someone can put it up(and make sure it's a GOOD image also), it would mean a lot to me, thank you. [[Special:Contributions/75.89.203.87|75.89.203.87]] 00:22, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
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== Wand ==
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I saw [http://content.time.com/time/specials/2007/personoftheyear/article/0,28804,1690753_1695388_1695569,00.html this article online] and how one of the questions asked was "What was Dumbledore's wand made of?", and the answer was to do with elder wood. Elder is tricky to master, containing powerful magic, and needs to be with a wizard superior to his or her company; they have to be remarkable, unusual and special. Dumbledore is all of those things. While it's possible (nay, probable) that Rowling was talking about the [[Elder Wand]], there is a slim chance she was also speaking at the same time of Dumbledore's first wand. --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 19:28, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
:A main image change for Dumbledore would require a vote. --[[User:Hcoknhoj|<font face="Times" size="4" color="Black" >JKoch</font>]][[File:Ravenclawcrest.jpg|20px]]<sup>([[User talk:Hcoknhoj|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="1" color="Red">Owl Me!</font>]])</sup> 01:07, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Ok, I would like to suggest [http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/still/harry_potter_hbp51.jpg ''this'' image] should be the main image, if you please. [[User:CJSFan|CJSFan]] 02:53, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
::So, I take it that we are suppose to vote? If so, we need to give each image a name, so we know what to vote for.[[User:CJSFan|CJSFan]] 21:11, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::The images from the cave are terrible.I suggest this others:[[User:Pol 871|Pol 871]] 23:40, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
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:I think the fifth one looks best as main image. --'''[[User:TheBook|TheBook]]''' — ([[User_talk:TheBook|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/TheBook|contribs]]) 16:56, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 
:I like the one with snowflakes in it/ the 9th [[User:Abrawak|Abrawak]] 17:32, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 
:I like the 6th one, the one where Dumbledore is sitting down(the second pic to the right). Because it's the most recent pic of Dumbledore, where he wears his headmaster's costume(basically, the MAIN Dumbledore costume). [[User:CJSFan|CJSFan]] 19:49, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
::Also, bear in mind that the infobox pic can only be 250px wide, so a wide pic like about half the ones suggested here wouldn't work all that well. Profile pics would look better. - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 09:29, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
What about [http://graphic-engine.swarthmore.edu/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/dumbledore.jpg this one]? --'''[[User:TheBook|TheBook]]''' — ([[User_talk:TheBook|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/TheBook|contribs]]) 10:05, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
I like the 6th picture of him sitting. I think we should have a fairly recent picture of Dumbledore from the HBP and the 6th picture shows more of him before his death. [[User:Lee7003|Lee7003]] 10:25, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
Ok, now that since some pics are removed(and I assume we're still voting), I still pick the picture of Dumbledore sitting. [[User:CJSFan|CJSFan]] 10:52, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:Ok, voting has been going on and there have been no objections. So, I think the pic with Dumbledore sitting is the winner(as one of the people who voted for the image). [[User:CJSFan|CJSFan]]<sup>[[User talk:CJSFan|Black Pearl]]</sup> 04:21, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
'''[[Forum:Post-DH2 infobox images#Albus Dumbledore]]'''
 
 
== Gone from Hogwarts ==
 
How many times did he leave Hogwarts in Harry Potter book 6. Don't say his last journey to the Cave. --Danniesen July 6 2010 16:59
 
 
== dumbledor richard harris ==
 
perhaps richard harris should get some picture credit and other credit for his part in the role ,,,, im sure it was intended that he continue the role into all the films were he not to pass away {{Unsigned|64.12.117.80}}
 
 
==Age==
 
 
In an interview with JK, she said Dumbledore is 150 years old, yet it says on here that he's 115. Shall we change it ? Link here:
 
 
http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2000/1000-scholastic-chat.htm
 
 
:While it's true that Rowling did say he was 150 in that 2000 interview, on the Wizard of the Month section of her website she gives his birth year as 1881. Since the WotM information was released around 2007, the [[Harry Potter Wiki:Canon|canon policy]] is to go with the most recent information. - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 10:37, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:But 1: Rowling said that he was 150 first, so that should be the real age. And 2, the first one was said by Rowling. If it's she who edits her own website she's been caught contradicting herself. Now all we need to do is ask her which is correct. For now let's keep it at 115 though, if that's the canon policy.
 
 
:Also, the death date says 1996. Is this a typo?
 
 
== Minor edit, but... ==
 
 
There is a "the" in front of the "a specific Chocolate Frog Card". I tried to edit it, but I couldn't, since I'm newly registered. Could somebody else do it? Please? [[User:RolandaSmithson|RolandaSmithson]] 23:53, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Minor edit, but... ==
 
 
There is a "the" in front of the "a specific Chocolate Frog Card". I tried to edit it, but I couldn't, since I'm newly registered. Could somebody else do it? Please? [[User:RolandaSmithson|RolandaSmithson]] 23:53, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Richard Harris nationality ==
 
 
In the behind the scenes section of this article it says that Dumbledore was portrayed by British actor Richard Harris. However, Harris was not British, he was Irish. He was born in County Limerick
 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Harris {{unsigned|Cathal c}}
 
 
Good catch. I'm not sure if I can add it in (I suppose you could call me "new"), and I'd have to say the admins should check this too before it goes in the article. But still, nice job. [[User:American che|<font color="maroon">'''American che'''</font>]][[User talk:American che|<font color="CC8800"><sup>{TWIST THOSE KNOBS! PULL THOSE LEVERS!}</sup></font>]] 19:46, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== What weakened him? ==
 
 
Was it the ring that weakened him or was it the potion? [[User:Abrawak|Abrawak]] 19:38, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
I'm not too sure. The ring did weaken him somewhat, but I think it was the Drink of Despair that totally weakened him before his death. [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 06:12, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Main Picture ==
 
 
I noticed the main picture of the article was changed. Was this voted on? [[User:Texthawm|<span style="font-family:Felix Titling;color:red">Texthawm</span>]] | [[File:Mail.gif]] ==> [[User Talk:Texthawm|<span style="font-family:Simplified Arabic;color:red">Send an Owl</span>]] 01:04, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Appearance: Scar ==
 
 
I'm not sure if this should be added or not, because it's not a confirmed fact.
 
 
But Dumbledore once told McGonagall that he had a scar of the London Underground above his left knee (he said it once, in Philosopher's/Sorcerer's Stone). Should this be added to his physical description? Just a suggestion.
 
 
He says it here: Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's/Philosopher's Stone, Chapter 1, Page 15, Paragraph 7
 
 
== headmaster of hogwarts ==
 
 
it says that when dolores wasn't headmaster anymore dumbledore became headmaster this is true of course but then it goes over in Minerva McGonagall shouldn't Severus Snape be there in between
 
 
so it should be :
 
 
Dolores-->Albus-->Snape-->McGonagall
 
 
and not
 
 
Dolores-->Albus-->McGonagall
 
 
:::It's Dolores->Albus->McGonagall->Snape->McGonagall
 
:::McGonagall was the headmistress in late June 1997. --[[File:Ravenclawcrest.jpg|20px]][[User:El Profeta Vespertino|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="Blue">The Evening Prophet</font>]] [[File:Ravenclawcrest.jpg|20px]] (''[[User talk:El Profeta Vespertino|<font color="Black">Owl Post</font>]]'') 22:56, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:::Technically it was Albus --> Minerva --> Dolores --> Albus --> Minerva --> Severus --> Minerva
 
:::This was because on the night of Albus' sacking, Albus appointed McGonagall as the Headmistress but the next morning, Dolores was appointed. After Albus died, McGonagall became Headmistress for 2 months. <span style="background-color:Red; border:4px ridge Green;"> [[User:Arceus The God of Pokemon|<span style="color:Purple;">'''I am the God of Pokemon!!!!!!'''</span>]] </span> 14:10, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:::I would say it was Albus --> Minerva (Chamber of Secrets) --> Albus --> Minerva (OotP) --> Dolores --> Albus --> Minerva (after Albus' death) --> Severus --> Minerva --> unknown head at the epilogue time. [[User:Harry granger|Harry granger]] 18:43, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Dumbledore's Army ==
 
 
Shouldn't the D.A. relationship section be expanded or changed? It mainly focuses on the D.A. itself, rather then it's relationship with Dumbledore.
 
 
[[User:Whatwouldthewealeytwinsdo?|Whatwouldthewealeytwinsdo?]] 07:51, April 26, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
 
==Death date==
 
==Death date==
I realised something. Under the law, set by the [[Decree for Justifiable Confiscation]], the Ministry can keep Dumbledore's bequests in their possession for no more than thirty-one days unless they can prove they are dangerous. Scrimgeour delivered Dumbledore's will on 31 July, Harry Potter's birthday because, as Hermione said, "the thirty-one days are up". Therefore, wouldn't he have died on the evening of 30 June, setting the skirmish at the Horcrux cave and the Battle of the Astronomy Tower on that day, too? -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 22:23, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
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Where it says in the very beginning of the first paragraph; Dumbledore died June 30 not late summer, why not specify the date instead? [[User:Maggiedev1996|Maggiedev1996]] ([[User talk:Maggiedev1996|talk]]) 06:49, April 20, 2014 (UTC)Md1
: I've never really noticed that but yeag. That's brilliant actually. I think we should put that down in the article. <sub>—</sub>[[File:German eagle logo.Png|31px]] [[User:Firefox1095|<font face="Vivaldi" size="4" color="Black">&nbsp;Firefox1095&nbsp;</font>]] [[File:German eagle logo.Png|31px]]<sub>—</sub> 00:48, April 28, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
::Shall I add the date to articles, then? -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 18:59, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Yes, we should.--[[User:Rodolphus|Rodolphus]] 19:02, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:::Incidentally, I've found out that this date, 30 June, 1997, was the date Bloomsbury originally published ''Philosopher's Stone'' in London. =) -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 19:16, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:Just being the devil's advocate here, but I'm sure we're all familiar with Rowling's reputation with numbers and dates. ''': /''' - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 11:14, May 4, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
::Nonetheless, we have nothing that makes her believe her to be wrong. In fact, all evidence seems to fit: from the books we know that that it happened in June (HBP25), and the original script for ''Half-Blood Prince'' seems to suggest that it was on late June ("''DUMBLEDORE: What brings you out on such a fine Spring evening? Or is it Summer?''"). Granted, this line wasn't on the final film, but still. The only problem I see with this date is that the summer holidays become a bit shorter than the other ones, but I can go with that. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 13:09, May 4, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:::Well I kind of agree with Nick O'Demus. Despite of being the brilliant writer and author she is, we all know (or at least most of us know) that when it comes to numbers and dates, Rowling is not the person for that job. <sub>—</sub>[[File:German eagle logo.Png|31px]] [[User:Firefox1095|<font face="Vivaldi" size="4" color="Black">&nbsp;Firefox1095&nbsp;</font>]] [[File:German eagle logo.Png|31px]]<sub>—</sub> 03:58, May 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
:::Hmm... but in After The Burial, they told that lessons were suspended and examinations postponed. The school year ends on July 1. So Dumbledore couldn't have died on 30. Moreover, Slughorn says that the Hogwarts Express should be leaving early. I think it was sometime between June 15-20. Also, it was never stated that Dumbledore's will was discovered on the day he died. <span style="background-color:Red; border:4px ridge Green;"> [[User:Arceus The God of Pokemon|<span style="color:Purple;">'''I am the God of Pokemon!!!!!!'''</span>]] </span> 14:17, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
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If he did die on 30 June, it makes me feel like Dumbledore is a little mad before he dies in the sixth movie, since it's been summer for nine days now, and not spring... Hmm, just my opinion on that, haha. --[[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 06:17, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Transfiguration prof? ==
 
 
It says in the article that dumbledore was the transfiguration professor before becoming headmaster but I thought he was defense against the dark arts and that's where the 1 year curse came from...
 
 
He was indeed the Transfiguration teacher at Hogwarts, not Defence Against the Dark Arts. The jinx on the post that made it so a professor could only last one year was placed on it after Dumbledore refused the job to Voldemort, who had come to apply as the D.A.D.A. teacher, at which time Voldemort cursed it. --[[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 04:13, July 31, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Pottermore & dates ==
 
 
I put some of this information on McGonagall's talk page, but it's relevant to Dumbledore too. Basically, Dumbledore didn't become Headmaster in 1956...
 
 
As we found out in "Order of the Phoenix," McGonagall began teaching at Hogwarts in December 1956. It's not explicitly stated that she became Transfiguration professor that year, simply that she began teaching then.
 
 
We now know from Pottermore that, after the summer following her graduation from Hogwarts, McGonagall worked at the Department for Magical Law Enforcement for two years before joining the Hogwarts faculty. BUT...it says, "The owl returned within hours, offering her a job in the Transfiguration department, under Head of Department, Albus Dumbledore."
 
 
This means a couple of things...'''1)''' McGonagall did not succeed Dumbledore as Transfiguration professor in December 1956, she became something of a junior professor/professor's assistant. '''2)''' If she joined the Hogwarts faculty in 1956, that means she worked at the Ministry from 1954 to 1956...which means she graduated from Hogwarts in 1954...and was born circa 1936 (not 1925). The 1925 birthyear came from an interview where Jo said Dumbledore was 150 and McGonagall was 70; that Dumbledore birthyear was later "overriden" by Jo's Wizard of the Month, which showed that Dumbledore was 115 when he died -- so the credibility of the 1925 year has been lacking.
 
 
'''And 3)''' Since McGonagall didn't replace him as Transfiguration professor right away, Dumbledore didn't become Headmaster in 1956 -- which makes sense with Lupin's testimony from "Prisoner of Azkaban", that he became Headmaster when Lupin was 11 (1971).[[User:Apwbd150|Apwbd150]] 22:04, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
: I'm having second thoughts about this -- not McGonagall's birth year, but the year in which Dumbledore became headmaster. In "Half-Blood Prince" we learn that Voldemort met with Dumbledore shortly after the latter became headmaster to seek the DADA position. This couldn't have been the early 1970s, since Voldemort's reign of terror was already in effect by then; I doubt he would go Hogwarts during the middle of a war, and the way Dumbledore talks it sounds like he and the Death Eaters are in their early stages.
 
 
: Dumbledore also says the Voldemort came to him 10 years after he killed Hepzibah Smith. He began working at Borgin and Burkes after graduating from Hogwarts in 1945 (which we know as a fact). So, at the earliest, Dumbledore became headmaster in 1956; at the latest, I'd say 1969. Perhaps, Dumbledore DID in fact become headmaster in 1956, but after McGonagall joined the faculty in December of that year. [[User:Apwbd150|Apwbd150]] 22:30, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
==Infobox image vote==
 
 
'''[[Forum:Post-DH2 infobox images#Albus Dumbledore]]'''
 
 
Follow the link. Nominations are still open. Voting starts in 3 days. - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 14:51, August 26, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
I am very glad to see that you have now changed the information in agreement with the books rather than the movies. When I last visited this website there seemed to be way to much information originating from the less than reputable works of David Yates. For example the article said (before it was changed) that Dumbeldorehad barely survived his duel with Voldemort
 
 
== Good Updates ==
 
 
 
I am very glad to see that you have now changed the information in agreement with the books rather than the movies. When I last visited this website there seemed to be way to much information originating from the less than reputable works of David Yates. For example the article said (before it was changed) that Dumbeldorehad barely survived his duel with Voldemort
 
 
 
[[Special:Contributions/99.8.168.220|99.8.168.220]] 21:54, August 30, 2011 (UTC)Reader
 
 
==New Main Photo?==
 
 
 
 
<gallery captionalign="left">
 
Screen shot 2011-11-09 at 9.38.27 PM.png|Dumbledore welcomes Harry to Limbo.
 
Screen shot 2011-11-09 at 9.39.10 PM.png|Far shot of Dumbles in Limbo.
 
</gallery>
 
 
 
 
 
:I don't really think we ''need'' to have a picture of Dumbledore from ''Deathly Hallows: Part 2'' as main image. Not in the present time, anyway. These pictures are dreadfully low quality, cannot even compare to the one we have now. Also, they all have weird angles on (or are too close to) Dumbledore's face to be a ''proper'' main image. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 18:36, October 10, 2011 (UTC
 
 
:I understand they're dreadfully low quality. But is that to say we'll ''never ''have Gandalf-Dumbles as main image? [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 21:40, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
::If there isn't a proper image of him in that scene to serve as main image, then I think not. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 22:37, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
::Since the film is out, I've found two super high quality pictures of him? Would either of these suffice? [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 02:43, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
::But on second thought, they seem to lower in quality as I transfer them to my desktop to the wiki. Any idea why? They were a bit better, if I recall correctly. [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 02:44, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
 
:::They look fine to me, but that's just my opinion. If it were between those 2, I'd say the second one. But if those won't work, we could use either of the ones where he was talking to Harry at the end(particularly cropped versions of [http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/26400000/Harry-Potter-and-the-Deathly-Hallows-Part-2-harry-potter-26407965-1280-544.jpg this one] or [http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/26400000/Harry-Potter-and-the-Deathly-Hallows-Part-2-harry-potter-26407976-1280-544.jpg this one]). --[[Image:CJSFan Sig.png|link=User:CJSFan|75px]]<sup>''[[User talk:CJSFan|Black Pearl]]'', ''[[w:c:pirates:User talk:CJSFan/Archives|HMS Interceptor]]'', ''[[w:c:pirates:User talk:CJSFan/Free Discussion|Queen Anne's Revenge]]''</sup> 03:29, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Skills section update ==
 
 
as I am a guest I'm not allowed to edit Dumbly's page, so if a registered person could do this for me please? I noticed in the section '''magical abilities and skills''' under the'' 'master of the deathly hallows''' it is mentioned that (quote)'' "Dumbledore was also the first master of the [[Elder Wand]] who did not use it to commit murder or brag of it to the public."'' We don't know all the owners of the elder wand, so we can't assume that every single person who owned it was a murdering git. Also, didn't it dissapear for about a centuary or two? Maybe this was caused by someone with good intentions like Dumbledore. Unless JKR's mentioned something on Pottermore, I think it should be changed to'' "Dumbledore was also the only '''known''' master of the [[Elder Wand]] who did not use it to commit murder or brag of it to the public."'' (emphasis mine). Yeah, it's a little nit picky, but I think the canon policy says no assumptions? [[Special:Contributions/75.54.94.163|75.54.94.163]] 20:24, December 27, 2011 (UTC) Guest
 
 
I personally liked Dumbledore, and was actually sad when I read that he died. Dumbledore was a great man, and this was a great article, filling all the gaps about his life. I would suggest making a summary for it though, because it is so long.
 
 
[[User:BaconRanger|User:BaconRanger]] 01:56, March 2, 2012 (UTC)BaconRanger
 
 
== Want to make minor edit stating that "Dumbledore is gay"... ==
 
 
Hello. I am new on this wiki and have signed up having noticed the line confirming Dumbledore's homosexuality.
 
 
I have tried to edit it but apparently the article will only let me view the source. Why? Does it have to do with my experience as a new member, or is it a special case?
 
 
Anyway, perhaps someone would look after that particular passage. For one I've read that there is still debate on whether Rowling's statement would indeed be considered canon. And at least I see it relevant to plug in a preparatory device, such as something like "J.K. Rowling stated publicly", or "J.K. Rowling idealises Dumbledore as...", etc.
 
 
Just giving you insight. Awaiting your response.
 
   
[[User:LoniousSphere|LoniousSphere]] 14:45, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
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:That would be because several decisions were made simultaneously by various users; some agree that since it was close to spring and it was described as being in mid-June, the date Dumbledore died couldn't have been the thirtieth, whereas others disagree and say that since it was the only indication of anything related to Dumbledore's death the thirtieth should be used as the date. Thus an exact day was given in some portions of the article but not in others. A decision ''really'' needs to be made on this. --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 21:13, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
:Rowling's word is law. She says Dumbledore is gay, so he is. Also, the wiki is written from an in-universe perspective. Which means the Harry Potter saga is chronicled as if it actually happened. Things like "J.K. Rowling stated publicly" etc are the domain of the behind the scenes sections. [[User:Jayden Matthews|Jayden Matthews]] 15:26, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Puddlemere United ==
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== Blood Status ==
   
Not sure if this should go on the wiki, but Dumbledore was plobably a Puddlemere United supporter. From Quidditch Through the Ages "May I also take this opportunity to wish Puddlemere United the best of luck next season."
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Can we get a source for his blood status? I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in [[Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows]], but it would still be nice to get a source.[[User:Allsevenbooks|Allsevenbooks]] ([[User talk:Allsevenbooks|talk]]) 05:03, July 21, 2014 (UTC)
==How strange==
 
So he died at age 115...well, in the film [[Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (film)|Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince]], [[Ron Weasley|Ron]] says that Dumbledore is 150. [[Special:Contributions/94.15.20.238|94.15.20.238]] 09:27, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:That was just the trio joking around. Albus' age of 150 is not canon since JKR said that 115 is the correct age he died at. --[[User:KiumaruHamachi|KiumaruHamachi]] 15:25, June 5, 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
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== Death date, AGAIN ==
   
::In what media? [[Special:Contributions/94.15.20.238|94.15.20.238]] 08:48, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
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{{Talk}}
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A decision ''really'' needs to be made on this. There's just ''no way'' that Dumbledore died on the last day of June, since there was at least a week after that before the funeral and the train was held up from leaving so the students could pay their respects.
   
:It's one of this wiki's policies that information from the books or J. K. Rowling herself is higher canon than what's in the films. When Rowling was doing the "Wizard of the Month" section on her website, she listed Dumbledore's birth year as 1881, and the references at the bottom of the article will explain why it was likely in July or August. Plus, if I remember correctly, in the movie Ron says "''He's like, what, a hundred and fifty?''", so it's likely Ron was just guessing. - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 09:21, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
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The OWLs take place over two weeks, from 7-17 June 1996 (so give or take a day or two for the following year). Ginny hadn't yet written her OWLs at the time of Dumbledore's death, meaning that it was sometime between, say, 1 June and 8 June, since we don't know for sure except that it was June and the OWLs hadn't yet happened.
   
== Albus body ==
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This fits perfectly with Dumbledore's comment in the early draft of the sixth film about how he isn't sure if it's spring or summer. If it had been the last day of June, I think he'd know it was summer, and that the exams would be over at the time.
   
In the page, there's something that says Dumbledore 'i''s one of the few individuals in the Wizarding World whose body would be in-corrupt in death'''. Is there a reference for the fact he is one of the few dead fellows that did'nt decompose?
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Maybe the Ministry confiscated the will when they came to the funeral at least a week after his death? That makes more sense to me. --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 16:03, August 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
[[User:Herbertvianna|Herbertvianna]] ([[User talk:Herbertvianna|talk]]) 23:36, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
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:On second thought, I guess we're stuck saying he ''did'' die on the 30th. The Seven Potters takes place on 27 July; Harry got the newspaper with the interview on Skeeter's book that morning; in it, Betty Braithwaite says Dumbledore died four weeks ago. We can either take this literally as 28 days (which makes it the 30th, coinciding with what Hermione said in chapter seven), or as around that length of time (still around the 30th). --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 14:11, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
   
:Removed. - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 14:42, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
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: When does it say there's a week betwen the death and the funeral? Also, I thought Ginny was done with her exams before Dumbledore's death? [[User:General Ironbeak|General Ironbeak]] ([[User talk:General Ironbeak|talk]]) 03:58, December 14, 2014 (UTC)
   
==Title shorts==
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::There were at least a "couple of days", but they also visited the hospital wing twice a day, and enough time has passed for Harry to repetitively grow angry at mention of Snape, the weather to seem to mock them and Neville to make steady improvement between the death and the funeral. As for Ginny's exams, she was studying hard for the OWLs last we heard before Dumbledore's death, whilst sometime between the death and the funeral they had already been done.
What are these shorts of:<br />D. Wiz., X.J.(sorc.), S. of Mag.Q. ? --[[Special:Contributions/94.191.187.123|94.191.187.123]] 17:20, August 5, 2012 (UTC)
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::None of that ''really'' matters anyways, because of a) the scene with the will, in which "the thirty-one days are up" and b) Braithwaite's comments in chapter two of ''Hallows'', both of which clearly define Dumbledore's death-date as being the 30 June. --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 04:45, December 14, 2014 (UTC)
:Hey, I asked you something. --[[Special:Contributions/94.191.187.51|94.191.187.51]] 08:30, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Problem with "Dumbledore is gay" paragraph" ==
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== Birth ==
   
In this article it says "Dumbledore was [http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Sexual_orientation gay], but after reflecting that falling in [http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Love love] with [http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Gellert_Grindelwald Gellert Grindelwald] in his youth had led him to lose his moral compass, he no longer trusted his own judgement in such matters.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-carnegie_15-0">[http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Albus_Dumbledore#cite_note-carnegie-15 [16]]</sup><sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-jkrstudent_16-0">[http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Albus_Dumbledore#cite_note-jkrstudent-16 [17]]</sup> As a result, he became "quite [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality asexual]," and lead a "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celibacy celibate] and bookish life.""
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:6px;color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,'lucidagrande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:17.563634872436523px;">Sorry my english is not specielt god but i have done my best </p>
   
This is misinterpeting what J.K. Rowling said, and also the wording of it makes it sound like Dumbledores moral failing was his sexaulity.
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<p style="margin-top:6px;margin-bottom:6px;color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,'lucidagrande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:17.563634872436523px;">Hey every Potterheads out there 
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There are a thing I had thinking a lot about. Is about when Albus Dumbledore was born. Because on harrypotter.wikia.com stands there that Dumbledore birth year was supposed to be in 1881.</p>
   
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<p style="margin-top:6px;margin-bottom:6px;color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,'lucidagrande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:17.563634872436523px;">It was there I was thinking how do they know that from, and it was from ´´Wizard of the Month`` it mean that J.K. Rowling say it. But j. k Rowling had also said in an interview that ´´Dumbledore was a sprightly 150`` and the actor Ciarán Hinds who played Aberforth “claimed” Dumbledore was 123 years old when he died. This would make his year of birth 1874.</p>
   
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<p style="margin-top:6px;margin-bottom:6px;color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,'lucidagrande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:17.563634872436523px;">So far. Now we have 3 theories, but none of them gives an explanation, how we knows dies dates.</p>
   
This is what Rowling says
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<p style="margin-top:6px;margin-bottom:6px;color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,'lucidagrande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:17.563634872436523px;">But her comes my theory there explain the hole. 
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Under Bill and Fleur's wedding at the 1st August 1997 dose Ron's great aunt Muriel says that she are 107. That’s mean she was born 107 before the wedding, that will mean in 1890. She also says to Elphias Doge and Harry Potter in the guise of Barny Weasley (translated verbatim from Danish) ´´But none of us there not was born back then, don’t know anything about`` about how Ariana died. It will say that Ariana died before Aunt Muriel was born in 1890. And we know that Ariana died when Albus Dumbledore was around 18 years old. It will say that Albus Dumbledore must have been born, minimum before 18 years 1890 thats mean that he must be born before or around 1872.
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Pz. Tell me what you think</p>
   
from here http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2008/3/8/new-j-k-rowling-interview-confirms-working-on-scottish-book-reflects-on-dumbledore-homophobia-fundamentalism-future-writing-projects-and-more
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<p style="margin-top:6px;margin-bottom:0px;display:inline;color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,'lucidagrande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:17.563634872436523px;">Always  - Ian</p>
   
"<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'TrebuchetMS',Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;text-align:justify;">"I had always seen Dumbledore as gay, but in a sense that's not a big deal. The book wasn't about Dumbledore being gay. It was just that from the outset obviously I knew he had this big, hidden secret, and that he flirted with the idea of exactly what Voldemort goes on to do, he flirted with the idea of racial domination, that he was going to subjugate the Muggles. So that was Dumbledore's big secret.</span>
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=== Bump ===
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Now, assuming the above calculations, that would make the headmaster 156 years old when he died. For the longest, we had him listed as being born in 1881. Which one is the accurate account for his birth? --[[User:KiumaruHamachi|KiumaruHamachi]] ([[User talk:KiumaruHamachi|talk]]) 11:00, December 19, 2014 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
   
<p style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;text-align:justify;line-height:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:TrebuchetMS,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;">Why did did he flirt with that?" she asks. "He's an innately good man, what would make him do that. I didnt even think it through that way, it just seemed to come to me, I thought 'I know why he did it, he fell in love.' And whether they physically consummated this infatuation or not is not the issue. The issue is love. It's not about sex. So that's what I knew about Dumbledore. And it's relevant only in so much as he fell in love and was made an utter fool of by love. He lost his moral compass completely when he fell in love and I think subsequently became very mistrusting of his own judgment in those matters so became quite asexual. He led a celibate and bookish life."</p>
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==Dumbledore's view on Voldemort:==
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I feel that the 'former student' view he had on Voldemort should be properly addressed on the 'relationships' part of the article. I mean, with Gellert Grindelwald safely behind bars in the wizarding prison of Nurmengard, Dumbledore was the most brilliant wizard around, having his skill and intellect viritually unmatch by any other living witch or wizard until Voldemort showed his true colours. Pretty frustrating, I'd reckon.
   
<p style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;text-align:justify;line-height:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:TrebuchetMS,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;">'''My understang is this:'''</p>
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The point is that in the sixth book, we get a pretty good look on Dumbledore's view of Voldemort: A worthy opponent. He had certain expectations regarding his magical capability, and felt that he had been let down when the Dark Lord did not satisfy them.
   
<p style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;text-align:justify;line-height:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:TrebuchetMS,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;">Dumledore fell in love with the dark wizard Grindelwald, who was into dark magic and blood purity supremacy. THAT was Dumledores moral failing, falling in love with Grindelwald, but not the act of falling in love with a man. I don't think the author of this article made that mistake intenntially, but it needs to be changed.</p>
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In book one, Dumbledore informs McGonagall that:
   
<p style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;text-align:justify;line-height:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:TrebuchetMS,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;">Also regarding his sexuality. When rowling says he led a asexual celibate life that doesen't mean he is not longer a gay. Asexual can be a sexuality, but I don't think that's what Rowling meant by her comment. He simply no longer persued romantic relationships, that doesen't mean he isen't still gay.</p>
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"''Voldemort had powers I will never have.''"
   
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He informs Harry that:
   
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"''I knew that Voldemort’s knowledge of magic is perhaps more extensive than any wizard alive. I knew that even my most complex and powerful protective spells and charms were unlikely to be invincible if he ever returned to full power''".
   
<p style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;text-align:justify;line-height:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:TrebuchetMS,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;">Could an editor please make the changes I've suggested here? This article is locked. Thank you. [[User:Muggledoor|Muggledoor]] ([[User talk:Muggledoor|talk]]) 06:37, August 10, 2012 (UTC)</p>
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And, when he and Harry entered the Horcrux Cave in search for the locket, Dumbledore began to check out what magical protection the most powerful Dark Wizard of All Time had placed upon the place to guard his precious piece of soul, and upon discovering the use of blood magic, better known as 'weakness payment', he was negatively surprised, describing it as 'crude', sounding 'disdainful, even disappointed, as though Voldemort had fallen short of higher standards Dumbledore expected.'
   
==Dumbledore's first wand==
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This of course, implies that Voldemort's spell was neither as dark nor as rare/powerful/extraordinary as Dumbledore would have thought, as if he had hoped for more of a challenge.
Hello, I was wondering if we can try to solve the mystery of Albus Dumbledore's first wand, according to what I read in [[Pottermore]], [[wand wood]]s, I think that Dumbledore's wand was made of [[Apple (tree)|applewood]]. He could not buy his wand from [[Garrick Ollivander]] but maybe from his family, and according to his (Ollivander's) research, applewood are "''best suited to an owner of high aims and ideals, as this wood mixes poorly with Dark magic''" (as Dumbledore dream with it, but then refuses) and that "''it is said that the possessor of an apple wand will be well-loved and long-lived''" (again, like Dumbledore) and it also said that "''an unusual ability to converse with other magical beings in their native tongues is often found among apple wand owners''" (as Dumbledore can speak [[Mermish]] and [[Gobbledegook]] and as he can recognize [[Parseltongue]] and also was able to quote verbatim a Parseltongue phrase). The core of his wand I believe was probably phoenix, but for the time he buy his wand the three most powerful cores (dragon, unicorn and phoenix) were extremely rare, it maybe was something else. Dumbledore's wand length and flexibility was probably at the edge of normal length 14" or more as he was a tall man.
 
:Well this is my hypothesis, and I hope some of you like to participate in this discussion. [[User:JLSilver|<span style="color:black; font-family:Magneto">Silver</span>]] '''''('''''[[User Talk:JLSilver|<span style="color:black; font-family:Magneto">Discusión</span>]]''''')''''' 00:54, December 9, 2012 (UTC).
 
   
::While you're free to come to your own decisions about things not stated in any canon source, such as the makeup of Albus Dumbledore's original wand, this wiki does not allow speculation or original research, and thus such a discussion would be against policy. If you wish to have such a discussion somewhere, a ''Harry Potter'' forum or chat room would be a more appropriate place. [[List of Harry Potter fan websites|This page]] may be a good place to start searching for one. -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] <sup>([[User_talk:1337star|Drop me a line!]])</sup> 01:35, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
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I feel this should be addressed at the relationship section at the article, hopefully by someone with better English writing capabilities than myself.
   
==More suitable main picture?==
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- [[User:Simen Johannes Fagerli]].
I really think that there should be a different main picture. The current one doesn't look good, I think. What about these:
 
   
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== Photo Issue ==
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I like the first one a lot. -- ''[[User:PerryPeverell|PerryPeverell]]'' 14:07, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
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The photo in character temple box is of a Ceiling fan. I don't know how to fix it. [[User:Zane T 69|Zane T 69]] ([[User talk:Zane T 69|talk]]) 21:23, November 22, 2014 (UTC)
   
:No offence, but as we're supposed to use the most recent one as canon and all three of those were earlier than HBP (which is where the current one is from), we're supposed to use the one we have now. At least, that's how the other articles are, sorry to say. --<span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:0.56cm;">[[User:Hunnie Bunn|<font face="Bridgnorth" size="4" color="Indigo">Hunnie Bunn</font>]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|<font face="Bridgnorth" size="3" color="Indigo">Owl me!</font>]])</span> 14:29, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
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:It was an act of vandalism. I've reverted the changes. - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 22:12, November 22, 2014 (UTC)
   
::Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know. Still, I think there should be another, more suitable picture for Dumbledore's infobox. -- ''[[User:PerryPeverell|PerryPeverell]]'' 17:28, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
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:Okay, thanks. EDIT: Same problem in Relationships section for Harry Potter. [[User:Zane T 69|Zane T 69]] ([[User talk:Zane T 69|talk]]) 22:30, November 22, 2014 (UTC)
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::It is back again. I've noticed it in this article and the Harry Potter(Person) article. [[User:Chris28bot|Chris28bot]] ([[User talk:Chris28bot|talk]]) 03:07, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

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Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore by Newt Scamander Edit

Grindelwald was known of one of the most evil dark wizards of Europe during the 20th Century, until He Who Must Not Be Named took his place. He was educated at Durmstrang, the Northern Wizarding school which specialises in the Dark Arts, where Grindelwald grew as a legion. He was eventually expelled from the school because of his evil behaviour and he left to visit his aunt, Bathilda Bagshot, Famous Historian and writer of :     A History of Magic, in her home at Godric's Hollow.

Albus Dumbledore, who was the same age as Grindelwald and lived next to him while he looked after his youger brother and sister, had struck up a friendship with Gellert and the communicated, sending owls to each other with letters about their ideas, known as The Greater Good. They took a special interest in The Deathly Hallows, which the sign of had been carved into a wall at Durmstrang by none other than the evil Gellert Grindelwald. In later stages of their friendship, Gellert Grindelwald left to further his powers after the death of Ariana Dumbledore, a girl known to have had magical problems caused by three Muggle boys who Ariana's father attacked and was sent and died in Azkaban for his crime.

Albus's brother, Aberforth, left as well and fought with his brother at their sister's funeral, blaming him for the cruel death of their sister, who did not attend Hogwarts school of Witchcraft and Wizardry at eleven years, but was consider and told to have been, "ill". Albus Dumbledore continued his brilliance and eventually had a scroll of his great achievments and honuarary awards. He was offered the post for Minister of Magic several times, but refused the job and said his life lay in teaching.

Meanwhile, Grindelwald was pursuing his view of The Greater Good and torturing Muggles as he gained power. Yet he was always recognised to have feared Dumbledore, so in 1945 the two magnificent wizards had a legendary duel battle and Dumbledore defeated Grindelwald. He then locked him up in his own prison, Nurmenguard, (a cell for his enemies) , when in later stage he was killed by the Dark Lord. 

After his battle, Dumbledore bacame a Tranfiguration teacher at Hogwarts for Armando Dippet. Dumbledore then rose until he took the post of Headmaster. In 1997, he was killed by the Hogwarts potions teacher, Severus Snape, the death of Dumbledore had been planned between them, because Dumbledore was dying from a cursed Horcrux ring. Albus Dumbledore is one of the most remembered wizards in the Wizarding World  and rests in peace at his Marble White Tomb, at Hogwarts, his home.

~Nox~.

-Griflytheruffleplaw

Death Edit

Is it ever explicitly stated that he died in June? It is a mere week or two after the attack on Draco Malfoy with Sectumsempra that Dumbledore dies, and unless I am much mistaken that happened in May. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 00:58, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

According to Scrimgeour (and Hermione) in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Chapter 7 (The Will of Albus Dumbledore), the Ministry has the right to maintain possession of Dumbledore's bequests for thirty-one days only, in accordance with the Decree for Justifiable Confiscation. Dumbledore's bequests were delivered to Ron, Hermione and Harry on 31 July 1997: Harry Potter's seventeenth birthday. As it is referred in that chapter that the "thirty-one days are up", Dumbledore died exactly thirty-one days earlier, in the evening of 30 June. HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 01:12, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

How likely is it that the Ministry grabbed his stuff the night he died? It's generally agreed they took the possessions on the day of the funeral. We therefore know the funeral took place on 30 June, and that his death happened a few weeks prior to that. Therefore, it could be either very late May or very early June. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 01:58, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
The will would have been turned over to the ministry the moment he passed away, as wills do in the Muggle world too. They had the will for 31 days, thus he died at the end of June. HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 02:27, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
So, we know he died sometime in late June, as per Betty Braithwaite's newspaper article in the Daily Prophet. We know the exams usually happen from the 1st to the 6th (except for 1994, where they happened around the 24th), and that they were postponed for a few days. They ended anywhere from three to seven days before the funeral, during which Harry, Ginny and the lot visited the hospital wing, and that they go on for a week. Thus, they ended anywhere from the 29th to the 25th, and thus began on either the 22nd or 18th. Is there any way of pinpointing a more exact death date? --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 22:30, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

Master of DeathEdit

Should it not be pointed out that he was Master of Death, having possessed all three Hallows for a period of time. Pesa123456789 (talk) 14:21, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

He did not, however, possess all three Hallows concurrently. He gave Harry the Cloak of Invisibility for Christmas in 1991, and only got the Ressurection Stone in the summer of 1996 (between the close of Order of the Phoenix and the start of Half-Blood Prince, when he got his hand cursed). --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 15:39, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

Horcrux-HuntingEdit

Just wondered, does anyone know where Dumbledore went when he got kicked out by Fudge and Dawlish and Umbridge and Weatherby? Dumbledore explicitly states in Order of the Phoenix that he wouldn't return to go to Grimmauld Place, nor would he be hiding. The comment "Fudge will soon wish he'd never dislodged me" is ambiguous for me, but I thought perhaps at that time he was beginning the hunt for Horcruxes? Or else heading around to question the Gaunts, Hokey and Ogden?--Hunnie Bunn (talk) 15:46, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

Wand Edit

I saw this article online and how one of the questions asked was "What was Dumbledore's wand made of?", and the answer was to do with elder wood. Elder is tricky to master, containing powerful magic, and needs to be with a wizard superior to his or her company; they have to be remarkable, unusual and special. Dumbledore is all of those things. While it's possible (nay, probable) that Rowling was talking about the Elder Wand, there is a slim chance she was also speaking at the same time of Dumbledore's first wand. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 19:28, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Death dateEdit

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Where it says in the very beginning of the first paragraph; Dumbledore died June 30 not late summer, why not specify the date instead? Maggiedev1996 (talk) 06:49, April 20, 2014 (UTC)Md1

That would be because several decisions were made simultaneously by various users; some agree that since it was close to spring and it was described as being in mid-June, the date Dumbledore died couldn't have been the thirtieth, whereas others disagree and say that since it was the only indication of anything related to Dumbledore's death the thirtieth should be used as the date. Thus an exact day was given in some portions of the article but not in others. A decision really needs to be made on this. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 21:13, August 5, 2014 (UTC)

Blood Status Edit

Can we get a source for his blood status? I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, but it would still be nice to get a source.Allsevenbooks (talk) 05:03, July 21, 2014 (UTC)

Death date, AGAIN Edit

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A decision really needs to be made on this. There's just no way that Dumbledore died on the last day of June, since there was at least a week after that before the funeral and the train was held up from leaving so the students could pay their respects.

The OWLs take place over two weeks, from 7-17 June 1996 (so give or take a day or two for the following year). Ginny hadn't yet written her OWLs at the time of Dumbledore's death, meaning that it was sometime between, say, 1 June and 8 June, since we don't know for sure except that it was June and the OWLs hadn't yet happened.

This fits perfectly with Dumbledore's comment in the early draft of the sixth film about how he isn't sure if it's spring or summer. If it had been the last day of June, I think he'd know it was summer, and that the exams would be over at the time.

Maybe the Ministry confiscated the will when they came to the funeral at least a week after his death? That makes more sense to me. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 16:03, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

On second thought, I guess we're stuck saying he did die on the 30th. The Seven Potters takes place on 27 July; Harry got the newspaper with the interview on Skeeter's book that morning; in it, Betty Braithwaite says Dumbledore died four weeks ago. We can either take this literally as 28 days (which makes it the 30th, coinciding with what Hermione said in chapter seven), or as around that length of time (still around the 30th). --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 14:11, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
 When does it say there's a week betwen the death and the funeral? Also, I thought Ginny was done with her exams before Dumbledore's death? General Ironbeak (talk) 03:58, December 14, 2014 (UTC)
There were at least a "couple of days", but they also visited the hospital wing twice a day, and enough time has passed for Harry to repetitively grow angry at mention of Snape, the weather to seem to mock them and Neville to make steady improvement between the death and the funeral. As for Ginny's exams, she was studying hard for the OWLs last we heard before Dumbledore's death, whilst sometime between the death and the funeral they had already been done.
None of that really matters anyways, because of a) the scene with the will, in which "the thirty-one days are up" and b) Braithwaite's comments in chapter two of Hallows, both of which clearly define Dumbledore's death-date as being the 30 June. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 04:45, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

Birth Edit

Sorry my english is not specielt god but i have done my best 

Hey every Potterheads out there  There are a thing I had thinking a lot about. Is about when Albus Dumbledore was born. Because on harrypotter.wikia.com stands there that Dumbledore birth year was supposed to be in 1881.

It was there I was thinking how do they know that from, and it was from ´´Wizard of the Month`` it mean that J.K. Rowling say it. But j. k Rowling had also said in an interview that ´´Dumbledore was a sprightly 150`` and the actor Ciarán Hinds who played Aberforth “claimed” Dumbledore was 123 years old when he died. This would make his year of birth 1874.

So far. Now we have 3 theories, but none of them gives an explanation, how we knows dies dates.

But her comes my theory there explain the hole.  Under Bill and Fleur's wedding at the 1st August 1997 dose Ron's great aunt Muriel says that she are 107. That’s mean she was born 107 before the wedding, that will mean in 1890. She also says to Elphias Doge and Harry Potter in the guise of Barny Weasley (translated verbatim from Danish) ´´But none of us there not was born back then, don’t know anything about`` about how Ariana died. It will say that Ariana died before Aunt Muriel was born in 1890. And we know that Ariana died when Albus Dumbledore was around 18 years old. It will say that Albus Dumbledore must have been born, minimum before 18 years 1890 thats mean that he must be born before or around 1872. Pz. Tell me what you think

Always  - Ian

Bump Edit

Now, assuming the above calculations, that would make the headmaster 156 years old when he died. For the longest, we had him listed as being born in 1881. Which one is the accurate account for his birth? --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 11:00, December 19, 2014 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi

Dumbledore's view on Voldemort:Edit

I feel that the 'former student' view he had on Voldemort should be properly addressed on the 'relationships' part of the article. I mean, with Gellert Grindelwald safely behind bars in the wizarding prison of Nurmengard, Dumbledore was the most brilliant wizard around, having his skill and intellect viritually unmatch by any other living witch or wizard until Voldemort showed his true colours. Pretty frustrating, I'd reckon.

The point is that in the sixth book, we get a pretty good look on Dumbledore's view of Voldemort: A worthy opponent. He had certain expectations regarding his magical capability, and felt that he had been let down when the Dark Lord did not satisfy them.

In book one, Dumbledore informs McGonagall that:

"Voldemort had powers I will never have."

He informs Harry that:

"I knew that Voldemort’s knowledge of magic is perhaps more extensive than any wizard alive. I knew that even my most complex and powerful protective spells and charms were unlikely to be invincible if he ever returned to full power".

And, when he and Harry entered the Horcrux Cave in search for the locket, Dumbledore began to check out what magical protection the most powerful Dark Wizard of All Time had placed upon the place to guard his precious piece of soul, and upon discovering the use of blood magic, better known as 'weakness payment', he was negatively surprised, describing it as 'crude', sounding 'disdainful, even disappointed, as though Voldemort had fallen short of higher standards Dumbledore expected.'

This of course, implies that Voldemort's spell was neither as dark nor as rare/powerful/extraordinary as Dumbledore would have thought, as if he had hoped for more of a challenge.

I feel this should be addressed at the relationship section at the article, hopefully by someone with better English writing capabilities than myself.

- User:Simen Johannes Fagerli.

Photo Issue Edit

The photo in character temple box is of a Ceiling fan. I don't know how to fix it. Zane T 69 (talk) 21:23, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

It was an act of vandalism. I've reverted the changes. - Nick O'Demus 22:12, November 22, 2014 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. EDIT: Same problem in Relationships section for Harry Potter. Zane T 69 (talk) 22:30, November 22, 2014 (UTC)
It is back again. I've noticed it in this article and the Harry Potter(Person) article. Chris28bot (talk) 03:07, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

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