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==Name==
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== Michael Gambom&Richard Harris ==
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:No,his name is Albus Percival Wulfric BRIAN Dumbledore.{{Unsigned|Pol 871}}
 
   
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I was wondering shouldnt there be an explanation on why dumbledore looks different In universe[[User:Orangerichard56|Orangerichard56]] ([[User talk:Orangerichard56|talk]]) 07:54, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
   
:Also, Albus is the name of one of the Geomantic symbols and means "White".
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== Death ==
:The parts of the UK theory still holds. One of the older names for Britain was
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Is it ever explicitly stated that he died in June? It is a mere week or two after the attack on Draco Malfoy with Sectumsempra that Dumbledore dies, and unless I am much mistaken that happened in May. --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 00:58, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
:Albion. Referring to the white cliffs.
 
:[[User:MorningstarLucifer|MorningstarLucifer]] 04:26, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
==Gandalf==
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According to Scrimgeour (and Hermione) in ''Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows'' - Chapter 7 (''The Will of Albus Dumbledore''), the Ministry has the right to maintain possession of Dumbledore's bequests for thirty-one days only, in accordance with the Decree for Justifiable Confiscation. Dumbledore's bequests were delivered to Ron, Hermione and Harry on 31 July 1997: Harry Potter's seventeenth birthday. As it is referred in that chapter that the "thirty-one days are up", Dumbledore died exactly thirty-one days earlier, in the evening of 30 June. [[User:HarryPotterRules1|HarryPotterRules1]] ([[User talk:HarryPotterRules1|talk]]) 01:12, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
In reading through the biography I began to be reminded a little bit, would it be relevant to mention the similarities? Beyond obvious things like being bearded uberwizards, there's how they both specialize in fire magic, both sort of sacrifice themselves and fall to their doom, both help a tiny invisible boy defeat a dark lord who stored their life force in one of the rings they're wearing... [[User:Tyciol|Ty]] 06:00, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
While very true, and others may feel differently then me, but I don't think that the connection is really all that relevant. Although very similar, LOTR was written in an entirely fictional version of our world. Whereas Harry Potter is fictional, it is set in a more mirror image of our world. --[[User:BachLynn23|BachLynn23]] 21:53, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
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:How likely is it that the Ministry grabbed his stuff the night he died? It's generally agreed they took the possessions on the day of the funeral. We therefore know the funeral took place on [[30 June]], and that his death happened a few weeks prior to that. Therefore, it could be either very late May or very early June. --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 01:58, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
   
Might I add, Harry was only invisible when cloaked, Albus died before he fell, and when was Frodo or whoever invisible? [[Special:Contributions/94.4.163.60|94.4.163.60]] 21:12, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
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:The will would have been turned over to the ministry the moment he passed away, as wills do in the Muggle world too. They had the will for 31 days, thus he died at the end of June. [[User:HarryPotterRules1|HarryPotterRules1]] ([[User talk:HarryPotterRules1|talk]]) 02:27, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
   
== Dumbledore in Gryffindor? ==
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::So, we know he died sometime in late [[June]], as per [[Betty Braithwaite]]'s newspaper article in the ''[[Daily Prophet]]''. We know the exams usually happen from the 1st to the 6th (except for [[1994]], where they happened around the 24th), and that they were postponed for a few days. They ended anywhere from three to seven days before the funeral, during which Harry, Ginny and the lot visited the hospital wing, and that they go on for a week. Thus, they ended anywhere from the 29th to the 25th, and thus began on either the 22nd or 18th. Is there any way of pinpointing a more exact death date? --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 22:30, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
   
Is there any quotable reference in the books that Dumbledore was indeed in Gryffindor? {{unsigned|98.237.178.82}}
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==Master of Death==
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Should it not be pointed out that he was Master of Death, having possessed all three Hallows for a period of time. [[User:Pesa123456789|Pesa123456789]] ([[User talk:Pesa123456789|talk]]) 14:21, January 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
:In the ''GoF'' movie, Dumbledore remarks to Harry while visiting him in his Gryffindor dormitory, "''I never liked these curtains. Set them on fire in my fourth year. By accident, of course.''" Per the [[HPW:CANON|Canon policy]] this qualifies as canon, as it doesn't directly conflict with the books. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;"> '''Seth Cooper''' </font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> '''owl post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 00:14, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
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:He did not, however, possess all three Hallows concurrently. He gave Harry the Cloak of Invisibility for Christmas in 1991, and only got the Ressurection Stone in the summer of 1996 (between the close of ''Order of the Phoenix'' and the start of ''Half-Blood Prince'', when he got [[Curse on Marvolo Gaunt's ring|his hand cursed]]). -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 15:39, January 4, 2014 (UTC)
::So it's from the movie! I saw this about the curtains in the article, but it's not referenced. [[User:Aryllia|Aryllia]] 17:36, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
:One doesn't have to be in Gryffindor to know of or set the curtains in the Gryffindor dormitory on fire. How do you know he didn't sneak in the Gryffindor dormitory and set the curtains on fire? [[Special:Contributions/71.255.80.157|71.255.80.157]] 06:23, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
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==Horcrux-Hunting==
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Just wondered, does anyone know where Dumbledore went when he got kicked out by Fudge and Dawlish and Umbridge and Weatherby?
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Dumbledore explicitly states in ''Order of the Phoenix'' that he wouldn't return to go to Grimmauld Place, nor would he be hiding. The comment "''Fudge will soon wish he'd never dislodged me''" is ambiguous for me, but I thought perhaps at that time he was beginning the hunt for Horcruxes? Or else heading around to question the Gaunts, Hokey and Ogden?--[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 15:46, January 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
How shall he have come in? You need a passwort to get into the Gryffindor tower. Normally only Gryffindors do know that. [[User:Harry granger|Harry granger]] 12:17, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
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== Wand ==
   
== is it true ==
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is it true that dumbledore was gay? KLOKOCHAR 20:48, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
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I saw [http://content.time.com/time/specials/2007/personoftheyear/article/0,28804,1690753_1695388_1695569,00.html this article online] and how one of the questions asked was "What was Dumbledore's wand made of?", and the answer was to do with elder wood. Elder is tricky to master, containing powerful magic, and needs to be with a wizard superior to his or her company; they have to be remarkable, unusual and special. Dumbledore is all of those things. While it's possible (nay, probable) that Rowling was talking about the [[Elder Wand]], there is a slim chance she was also speaking at the same time of Dumbledore's first wand. --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 19:28, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
 
:Yes. Rowling revealed that Dumbledore was gay in an interview. You can read it [http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2007/10/20/j-k-rowling-at-carnegie-hall-reveals-dumbledore-is-gay-neville-marries-hannah-abbott-and-scores-more here]. - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 20:50, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
 
:JK also said in that interview that him and grindeweld might have had a fling in that summer they were together wahoo!!!!!!!!!!!![[User:Shephard123|MINISTER]] 14:27, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
::Uh, no she didn't. Read it again. All she said was that Dumbledore had feelings for Grindelwald. She even said in a later inerview that Grindelwald didn't love Albus. [[Special:Contributions/70.249.153.203|70.249.153.203]] 17:07, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:Also, in the interview, even though she states that Grindewald did not have feelings for Dumbledore, it is not clear what his orientation was --[[User:BachLynn23|BachLynn23]] 21:55, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:Also Hagrid: "Come out t' th' shed wit' me, Harry, there's somethin' I want t' show ye..."
 
 
== Main Image ==
 
 
Is there a way we can get an image of Dumbledore where we see MORE of him(like maybe to where we can see his beard)? I'm not trying to be controlling or anything, but whenever I go to this particular article, I would like to see a good image of Dumbledore as the main image(although in my case, a good image to where we see a lot of Dumbledore to where we at least see his beard). So, if someone can put it up(and make sure it's a GOOD image also), it would mean a lot to me, thank you. [[Special:Contributions/75.89.203.87|75.89.203.87]] 00:22, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:A main image change for Dumbledore would require a vote. --[[User:Hcoknhoj|<font face="Times" size="4" color="Black" >JKoch</font>]][[File:Ravenclawcrest.jpg|20px]]<sup>([[User talk:Hcoknhoj|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="1" color="Red">Owl Me!</font>]])</sup> 01:07, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Ok, I would like to suggest [http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/still/harry_potter_hbp51.jpg ''this'' image] should be the main image, if you please. [[User:CJSFan|CJSFan]] 02:53, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
::So, I take it that we are suppose to vote? If so, we need to give each image a name, so we know what to vote for.[[User:CJSFan|CJSFan]] 21:11, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::The images from the cave are terrible.I suggest this others:[[User:Pol 871|Pol 871]] 23:40, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
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:I think the fifth one looks best as main image. --'''[[User:TheBook|TheBook]]''' — ([[User_talk:TheBook|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/TheBook|contribs]]) 16:56, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 
:I like the one with snowflakes in it/ the 9th [[User:Abrawak|Abrawak]] 17:32, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 
:I like the 6th one, the one where Dumbledore is sitting down(the second pic to the right). Because it's the most recent pic of Dumbledore, where he wears his headmaster's costume(basically, the MAIN Dumbledore costume). [[User:CJSFan|CJSFan]] 19:49, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
::Also, bear in mind that the infobox pic can only be 250px wide, so a wide pic like about half the ones suggested here wouldn't work all that well. Profile pics would look better. - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 09:29, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
What about [http://graphic-engine.swarthmore.edu/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/dumbledore.jpg this one]? --'''[[User:TheBook|TheBook]]''' — ([[User_talk:TheBook|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/TheBook|contribs]]) 10:05, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
I like the 6th picture of him sitting. I think we should have a fairly recent picture of Dumbledore from the HBP and the 6th picture shows more of him before his death. [[User:Lee7003|Lee7003]] 10:25, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
Ok, now that since some pics are removed(and I assume we're still voting), I still pick the picture of Dumbledore sitting. [[User:CJSFan|CJSFan]] 10:52, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:Ok, voting has been going on and there have been no objections. So, I think the pic with Dumbledore sitting is the winner(as one of the people who voted for the image). [[User:CJSFan|CJSFan]]<sup>[[User talk:CJSFan|Black Pearl]]</sup> 04:21, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
'''[[Forum:Post-DH2 infobox images#Albus Dumbledore]]'''
 
 
== Gone from Hogwarts ==
 
How many times did he leave Hogwarts in Harry Potter book 6. Don't say his last journey to the Cave. --Danniesen July 6 2010 16:59
 
 
== dumbledor richard harris ==
 
perhaps richard harris should get some picture credit and other credit for his part in the role ,,,, im sure it was intended that he continue the role into all the films were he not to pass away {{Unsigned|64.12.117.80}}
 
 
==Age==
 
 
In an interview with JK, she said Dumbledore is 150 years old, yet it says on here that he's 115. Shall we change it ? Link here:
 
 
http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2000/1000-scholastic-chat.htm
 
 
:While it's true that Rowling did say he was 150 in that 2000 interview, on the Wizard of the Month section of her website she gives his birth year as 1881. Since the WotM information was released around 2007, the [[Harry Potter Wiki:Canon|canon policy]] is to go with the most recent information. - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 10:37, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:But 1: Rowling said that he was 150 first, so that should be the real age. And 2, the first one was said by Rowling. If it's she who edits her own website she's been caught contradicting herself. Now all we need to do is ask her which is correct. For now let's keep it at 115 though, if that's the canon policy.
 
 
:Also, the death date says 1996. Is this a typo?
 
 
== Minor edit, but... ==
 
 
There is a "the" in front of the "a specific Chocolate Frog Card". I tried to edit it, but I couldn't, since I'm newly registered. Could somebody else do it? Please? [[User:RolandaSmithson|RolandaSmithson]] 23:53, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Minor edit, but... ==
 
 
There is a "the" in front of the "a specific Chocolate Frog Card". I tried to edit it, but I couldn't, since I'm newly registered. Could somebody else do it? Please? [[User:RolandaSmithson|RolandaSmithson]] 23:53, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Richard Harris nationality ==
 
 
In the behind the scenes section of this article it says that Dumbledore was portrayed by British actor Richard Harris. However, Harris was not British, he was Irish. He was born in County Limerick
 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Harris {{unsigned|Cathal c}}
 
 
Good catch. I'm not sure if I can add it in (I suppose you could call me "new"), and I'd have to say the admins should check this too before it goes in the article. But still, nice job. [[User:American che|<font color="maroon">'''American che'''</font>]][[User talk:American che|<font color="CC8800"><sup>{TWIST THOSE KNOBS! PULL THOSE LEVERS!}</sup></font>]] 19:46, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== What weakened him? ==
 
 
Was it the ring that weakened him or was it the potion? [[User:Abrawak|Abrawak]] 19:38, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
I'm not too sure. The ring did weaken him somewhat, but I think it was the Drink of Despair that totally weakened him before his death. [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 06:12, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Main Picture ==
 
 
I noticed the main picture of the article was changed. Was this voted on? [[User:Texthawm|<span style="font-family:Felix Titling;color:red">Texthawm</span>]] | [[File:Mail.gif]] ==> [[User Talk:Texthawm|<span style="font-family:Simplified Arabic;color:red">Send an Owl</span>]] 01:04, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Appearance: Scar ==
 
 
I'm not sure if this should be added or not, because it's not a confirmed fact.
 
 
But Dumbledore once told McGonagall that he had a scar of the London Underground above his left knee (he said it once, in Philosopher's/Sorcerer's Stone). Should this be added to his physical description? Just a suggestion.
 
 
He says it here: Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's/Philosopher's Stone, Chapter 1, Page 15, Paragraph 7
 
 
== headmaster of hogwarts ==
 
 
it says that when dolores wasn't headmaster anymore dumbledore became headmaster this is true of course but then it goes over in Minerva McGonagall shouldn't Severus Snape be there in between
 
 
so it should be :
 
 
Dolores-->Albus-->Snape-->McGonagall
 
 
and not
 
 
Dolores-->Albus-->McGonagall
 
 
:::It's Dolores->Albus->McGonagall->Snape->McGonagall
 
:::McGonagall was the headmistress in late June 1997. --[[File:Ravenclawcrest.jpg|20px]][[User:El Profeta Vespertino|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="Blue">The Evening Prophet</font>]] [[File:Ravenclawcrest.jpg|20px]] (''[[User talk:El Profeta Vespertino|<font color="Black">Owl Post</font>]]'') 22:56, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:::Technically it was Albus --> Minerva --> Dolores --> Albus --> Minerva --> Severus --> Minerva
 
:::This was because on the night of Albus' sacking, Albus appointed McGonagall as the Headmistress but the next morning, Dolores was appointed. After Albus died, McGonagall became Headmistress for 2 months. <span style="background-color:Red; border:4px ridge Green;"> [[User:Arceus The God of Pokemon|<span style="color:Purple;">'''I am the God of Pokemon!!!!!!'''</span>]] </span> 14:10, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:::I would say it was Albus --> Minerva (Chamber of Secrets) --> Albus --> Minerva (OotP) --> Dolores --> Albus --> Minerva (after Albus' death) --> Severus --> Minerva --> unknown head at the epilogue time. [[User:Harry granger|Harry granger]] 18:43, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Dumbledore's Army ==
 
 
Shouldn't the D.A. relationship section be expanded or changed? It mainly focuses on the D.A. itself, rather then it's relationship with Dumbledore.
 
 
[[User:Whatwouldthewealeytwinsdo?|Whatwouldthewealeytwinsdo?]] 07:51, April 26, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
==Death date==
 
I realised something. Under the law, set by the [[Decree for Justifiable Confiscation]], the Ministry can keep Dumbledore's bequests in their possession for no more than thirty-one days unless they can prove they are dangerous. Scrimgeour delivered Dumbledore's will on 31 July, Harry Potter's birthday because, as Hermione said, "the thirty-one days are up". Therefore, wouldn't he have died on the evening of 30 June, setting the skirmish at the Horcrux cave and the Battle of the Astronomy Tower on that day, too? -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 22:23, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
: I've never really noticed that but yeag. That's brilliant actually. I think we should put that down in the article. <sub>—</sub>[[File:German eagle logo.Png|31px]] [[User:Firefox1095|<font face="Vivaldi" size="4" color="Black">&nbsp;Firefox1095&nbsp;</font>]] [[File:German eagle logo.Png|31px]]<sub>—</sub> 00:48, April 28, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
::Shall I add the date to articles, then? -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 18:59, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Yes, we should.--[[User:Rodolphus|Rodolphus]] 19:02, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:::Incidentally, I've found out that this date, 30 June, 1997, was the date Bloomsbury originally published ''Philosopher's Stone'' in London. =) -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 19:16, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:Just being the devil's advocate here, but I'm sure we're all familiar with Rowling's reputation with numbers and dates. ''': /''' - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 11:14, May 4, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
::Nonetheless, we have nothing that makes her believe her to be wrong. In fact, all evidence seems to fit: from the books we know that that it happened in June (HBP25), and the original script for ''Half-Blood Prince'' seems to suggest that it was on late June ("''DUMBLEDORE: What brings you out on such a fine Spring evening? Or is it Summer?''"). Granted, this line wasn't on the final film, but still. The only problem I see with this date is that the summer holidays become a bit shorter than the other ones, but I can go with that. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 13:09, May 4, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:::Well I kind of agree with Nick O'Demus. Despite of being the brilliant writer and author she is, we all know (or at least most of us know) that when it comes to numbers and dates, Rowling is not the person for that job. <sub>—</sub>[[File:German eagle logo.Png|31px]] [[User:Firefox1095|<font face="Vivaldi" size="4" color="Black">&nbsp;Firefox1095&nbsp;</font>]] [[File:German eagle logo.Png|31px]]<sub>—</sub> 03:58, May 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
:::Hmm... but in After The Burial, they told that lessons were suspended and examinations postponed. The school year ends on July 1. So Dumbledore couldn't have died on 30. Moreover, Slughorn says that the Hogwarts Express should be leaving early. I think it was sometime between June 15-20. Also, it was never stated that Dumbledore's will was discovered on the day he died. <span style="background-color:Red; border:4px ridge Green;"> [[User:Arceus The God of Pokemon|<span style="color:Purple;">'''I am the God of Pokemon!!!!!!'''</span>]] </span> 14:17, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
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If he did die on 30 June, it makes me feel like Dumbledore is a little mad before he dies in the sixth movie, since it's been summer for nine days now, and not spring... Hmm, just my opinion on that, haha. --[[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 06:17, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Transfiguration prof? ==
 
 
It says in the article that dumbledore was the transfiguration professor before becoming headmaster but I thought he was defense against the dark arts and that's where the 1 year curse came from...
 
 
He was indeed the Transfiguration teacher at Hogwarts, not Defence Against the Dark Arts. The jinx on the post that made it so a professor could only last one year was placed on it after Dumbledore refused the job to Voldemort, who had come to apply as the D.A.D.A. teacher, at which time Voldemort cursed it. --[[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 04:13, July 31, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Pottermore & dates ==
 
 
I put some of this information on McGonagall's talk page, but it's relevant to Dumbledore too. Basically, Dumbledore didn't become Headmaster in 1956...
 
 
As we found out in "Order of the Phoenix," McGonagall began teaching at Hogwarts in December 1956. It's not explicitly stated that she became Transfiguration professor that year, simply that she began teaching then.
 
 
We now know from Pottermore that, after the summer following her graduation from Hogwarts, McGonagall worked at the Department for Magical Law Enforcement for two years before joining the Hogwarts faculty. BUT...it says, "The owl returned within hours, offering her a job in the Transfiguration department, under Head of Department, Albus Dumbledore."
 
 
This means a couple of things...'''1)''' McGonagall did not succeed Dumbledore as Transfiguration professor in December 1956, she became something of a junior professor/professor's assistant. '''2)''' If she joined the Hogwarts faculty in 1956, that means she worked at the Ministry from 1954 to 1956...which means she graduated from Hogwarts in 1954...and was born circa 1936 (not 1925). The 1925 birthyear came from an interview where Jo said Dumbledore was 150 and McGonagall was 70; that Dumbledore birthyear was later "overriden" by Jo's Wizard of the Month, which showed that Dumbledore was 115 when he died -- so the credibility of the 1925 year has been lacking.
 
 
'''And 3)''' Since McGonagall didn't replace him as Transfiguration professor right away, Dumbledore didn't become Headmaster in 1956 -- which makes sense with Lupin's testimony from "Prisoner of Azkaban", that he became Headmaster when Lupin was 11 (1971).[[User:Apwbd150|Apwbd150]] 22:04, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
: I'm having second thoughts about this -- not McGonagall's birth year, but the year in which Dumbledore became headmaster. In "Half-Blood Prince" we learn that Voldemort met with Dumbledore shortly after the latter became headmaster to seek the DADA position. This couldn't have been the early 1970s, since Voldemort's reign of terror was already in effect by then; I doubt he would go Hogwarts during the middle of a war, and the way Dumbledore talks it sounds like he and the Death Eaters are in their early stages.
 
 
: Dumbledore also says the Voldemort came to him 10 years after he killed Hepzibah Smith. He began working at Borgin and Burkes after graduating from Hogwarts in 1945 (which we know as a fact). So, at the earliest, Dumbledore became headmaster in 1956; at the latest, I'd say 1969. Perhaps, Dumbledore DID in fact become headmaster in 1956, but after McGonagall joined the faculty in December of that year. [[User:Apwbd150|Apwbd150]] 22:30, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
==Infobox image vote==
 
 
'''[[Forum:Post-DH2 infobox images#Albus Dumbledore]]'''
 
 
Follow the link. Nominations are still open. Voting starts in 3 days. - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 14:51, August 26, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
I am very glad to see that you have now changed the information in agreement with the books rather than the movies. When I last visited this website there seemed to be way to much information originating from the less than reputable works of David Yates. For example the article said (before it was changed) that Dumbeldorehad barely survived his duel with Voldemort
 
 
== Good Updates ==
 
 
 
I am very glad to see that you have now changed the information in agreement with the books rather than the movies. When I last visited this website there seemed to be way to much information originating from the less than reputable works of David Yates. For example the article said (before it was changed) that Dumbeldorehad barely survived his duel with Voldemort
 
 
 
[[Special:Contributions/99.8.168.220|99.8.168.220]] 21:54, August 30, 2011 (UTC)Reader
 
 
==New Main Photo?==
 
 
 
 
<gallery captionalign="left">
 
Screen shot 2011-11-09 at 9.38.27 PM.png|Dumbledore welcomes Harry to Limbo.
 
Screen shot 2011-11-09 at 9.39.10 PM.png|Far shot of Dumbles in Limbo.
 
</gallery>
 
 
 
 
 
:I don't really think we ''need'' to have a picture of Dumbledore from ''Deathly Hallows: Part 2'' as main image. Not in the present time, anyway. These pictures are dreadfully low quality, cannot even compare to the one we have now. Also, they all have weird angles on (or are too close to) Dumbledore's face to be a ''proper'' main image. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 18:36, October 10, 2011 (UTC
 
 
:I understand they're dreadfully low quality. But is that to say we'll ''never ''have Gandalf-Dumbles as main image? [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 21:40, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
::If there isn't a proper image of him in that scene to serve as main image, then I think not. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 22:37, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
::Since the film is out, I've found two super high quality pictures of him? Would either of these suffice? [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 02:43, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
::But on second thought, they seem to lower in quality as I transfer them to my desktop to the wiki. Any idea why? They were a bit better, if I recall correctly. [[User:AlastorMoody|AlastorMoody]] 02:44, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
 
:::They look fine to me, but that's just my opinion. If it were between those 2, I'd say the second one. But if those won't work, we could use either of the ones where he was talking to Harry at the end(particularly cropped versions of [http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/26400000/Harry-Potter-and-the-Deathly-Hallows-Part-2-harry-potter-26407965-1280-544.jpg this one] or [http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/26400000/Harry-Potter-and-the-Deathly-Hallows-Part-2-harry-potter-26407976-1280-544.jpg this one]). --[[Image:CJSFan Sig.png|link=User:CJSFan|75px]]<sup>''[[User talk:CJSFan|Black Pearl]]'', ''[[w:c:pirates:User talk:CJSFan/Archives|HMS Interceptor]]'', ''[[w:c:pirates:User talk:CJSFan/Free Discussion|Queen Anne's Revenge]]''</sup> 03:29, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Skills section update ==
 
 
as I am a guest I'm not allowed to edit Dumbly's page, so if a registered person could do this for me please? I noticed in the section '''magical abilities and skills''' under the'' 'master of the deathly hallows''' it is mentioned that (quote)'' "Dumbledore was also the first master of the [[Elder Wand]] who did not use it to commit murder or brag of it to the public."'' We don't know all the owners of the elder wand, so we can't assume that every single person who owned it was a murdering git. Also, didn't it dissapear for about a centuary or two? Maybe this was caused by someone with good intentions like Dumbledore. Unless JKR's mentioned something on Pottermore, I think it should be changed to'' "Dumbledore was also the only '''known''' master of the [[Elder Wand]] who did not use it to commit murder or brag of it to the public."'' (emphasis mine). Yeah, it's a little nit picky, but I think the canon policy says no assumptions? [[Special:Contributions/75.54.94.163|75.54.94.163]] 20:24, December 27, 2011 (UTC) Guest
 
 
I personally liked Dumbledore, and was actually sad when I read that he died. Dumbledore was a great man, and this was a great article, filling all the gaps about his life. I would suggest making a summary for it though, because it is so long.
 
 
[[User:BaconRanger|User:BaconRanger]] 01:56, March 2, 2012 (UTC)BaconRanger
 
 
== Want to make minor edit stating that "Dumbledore is gay"... ==
 
 
Hello. I am new on this wiki and have signed up having noticed the line confirming Dumbledore's homosexuality.
 
 
I have tried to edit it but apparently the article will only let me view the source. Why? Does it have to do with my experience as a new member, or is it a special case?
 
 
Anyway, perhaps someone would look after that particular passage. For one I've read that there is still debate on whether Rowling's statement would indeed be considered canon. And at least I see it relevant to plug in a preparatory device, such as something like "J.K. Rowling stated publicly", or "J.K. Rowling idealises Dumbledore as...", etc.
 
 
Just giving you insight. Awaiting your response.
 
 
[[User:LoniousSphere|LoniousSphere]] 14:45, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Rowling's word is law. She says Dumbledore is gay, so he is. Also, the wiki is written from an in-universe perspective. Which means the Harry Potter saga is chronicled as if it actually happened. Things like "J.K. Rowling stated publicly" etc are the domain of the behind the scenes sections. [[User:Jayden Matthews|Jayden Matthews]] 15:26, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Puddlemere United ==
 
 
Not sure if this should go on the wiki, but Dumbledore was plobably a Puddlemere United supporter. From Quidditch Through the Ages "May I also take this opportunity to wish Puddlemere United the best of luck next season."
 
==How strange==
 
So he died at age 115...well, in the film [[Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (film)|Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince]], [[Ron Weasley|Ron]] says that Dumbledore is 150. [[Special:Contributions/94.15.20.238|94.15.20.238]] 09:27, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:That was just the trio joking around. Albus' age of 150 is not canon since JKR said that 115 is the correct age he died at. --[[User:KiumaruHamachi|KiumaruHamachi]] 15:25, June 5, 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 
 
::In what media? [[Special:Contributions/94.15.20.238|94.15.20.238]] 08:48, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:It's one of this wiki's policies that information from the books or J. K. Rowling herself is higher canon than what's in the films. When Rowling was doing the "Wizard of the Month" section on her website, she listed Dumbledore's birth year as 1881, and the references at the bottom of the article will explain why it was likely in July or August. Plus, if I remember correctly, in the movie Ron says "''He's like, what, a hundred and fifty?''", so it's likely Ron was just guessing. - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 09:21, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Albus body ==
 
 
In the page, there's something that says Dumbledore 'i''s one of the few individuals in the Wizarding World whose body would be in-corrupt in death'''. Is there a reference for the fact he is one of the few dead fellows that did'nt decompose?
 
 
[[User:Herbertvianna|Herbertvianna]] ([[User talk:Herbertvianna|talk]]) 23:36, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:Removed. - [[User:Nick O'Demus|<font face="Monotype Corsiva" size="4" color="FF8000">Nick O'Demus</font>]] 14:42, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Title shorts==
 
What are these shorts of:<br />D. Wiz., X.J.(sorc.), S. of Mag.Q. ? --[[Special:Contributions/94.191.187.123|94.191.187.123]] 17:20, August 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Hey, I asked you something. --[[Special:Contributions/94.191.187.51|94.191.187.51]] 08:30, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Problem with "Dumbledore is gay" paragraph" ==
 
 
In this article it says "Dumbledore was [http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Sexual_orientation gay], but after reflecting that falling in [http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Love love] with [http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Gellert_Grindelwald Gellert Grindelwald] in his youth had led him to lose his moral compass, he no longer trusted his own judgement in such matters.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-carnegie_15-0">[http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Albus_Dumbledore#cite_note-carnegie-15 [16]]</sup><sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-jkrstudent_16-0">[http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Albus_Dumbledore#cite_note-jkrstudent-16 [17]]</sup> As a result, he became "quite [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality asexual]," and lead a "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celibacy celibate] and bookish life.""
 
 
This is misinterpeting what J.K. Rowling said, and also the wording of it makes it sound like Dumbledores moral failing was his sexaulity.
 
 
 
 
This is what Rowling says
 
 
from here http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2008/3/8/new-j-k-rowling-interview-confirms-working-on-scottish-book-reflects-on-dumbledore-homophobia-fundamentalism-future-writing-projects-and-more
 
 
"<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'TrebuchetMS',Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;text-align:justify;">"I had always seen Dumbledore as gay, but in a sense that's not a big deal. The book wasn't about Dumbledore being gay. It was just that from the outset obviously I knew he had this big, hidden secret, and that he flirted with the idea of exactly what Voldemort goes on to do, he flirted with the idea of racial domination, that he was going to subjugate the Muggles. So that was Dumbledore's big secret.</span>
 
 
<p style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;text-align:justify;line-height:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:TrebuchetMS,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;">Why did did he flirt with that?" she asks. "He's an innately good man, what would make him do that. I didnt even think it through that way, it just seemed to come to me, I thought 'I know why he did it, he fell in love.' And whether they physically consummated this infatuation or not is not the issue. The issue is love. It's not about sex. So that's what I knew about Dumbledore. And it's relevant only in so much as he fell in love and was made an utter fool of by love. He lost his moral compass completely when he fell in love and I think subsequently became very mistrusting of his own judgment in those matters so became quite asexual. He led a celibate and bookish life."</p>
 
 
<p style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;text-align:justify;line-height:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:TrebuchetMS,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;">'''My understang is this:'''</p>
 
 
<p style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;text-align:justify;line-height:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:TrebuchetMS,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;">Dumledore fell in love with the dark wizard Grindelwald, who was into dark magic and blood purity supremacy. THAT was Dumledores moral failing, falling in love with Grindelwald, but not the act of falling in love with a man. I don't think the author of this article made that mistake intenntially, but it needs to be changed.</p>
 
 
<p style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;text-align:justify;line-height:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:TrebuchetMS,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;">Also regarding his sexuality. When rowling says he led a asexual celibate life that doesen't mean he is not longer a gay. Asexual can be a sexuality, but I don't think that's what Rowling meant by her comment. He simply no longer persued romantic relationships, that doesen't mean he isen't still gay.</p>
 
 
 
 
<p style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;text-align:justify;line-height:18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:TrebuchetMS,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:13px;">Could an editor please make the changes I've suggested here? This article is locked. Thank you. [[User:Muggledoor|Muggledoor]] ([[User talk:Muggledoor|talk]]) 06:37, August 10, 2012 (UTC)</p>
 
 
==Dumbledore's first wand==
 
Hello, I was wondering if we can try to solve the mystery of Albus Dumbledore's first wand, according to what I read in [[Pottermore]], [[wand wood]]s, I think that Dumbledore's wand was made of [[Apple (tree)|applewood]]. He could not buy his wand from [[Garrick Ollivander]] but maybe from his family, and according to his (Ollivander's) research, applewood are "''best suited to an owner of high aims and ideals, as this wood mixes poorly with Dark magic''" (as Dumbledore dream with it, but then refuses) and that "''it is said that the possessor of an apple wand will be well-loved and long-lived''" (again, like Dumbledore) and it also said that "''an unusual ability to converse with other magical beings in their native tongues is often found among apple wand owners''" (as Dumbledore can speak [[Mermish]] and [[Gobbledegook]] and as he can recognize [[Parseltongue]] and also was able to quote verbatim a Parseltongue phrase). The core of his wand I believe was probably phoenix, but for the time he buy his wand the three most powerful cores (dragon, unicorn and phoenix) were extremely rare, it maybe was something else. Dumbledore's wand length and flexibility was probably at the edge of normal length 14" or more as he was a tall man.
 
:Well this is my hypothesis, and I hope some of you like to participate in this discussion. [[User:JLSilver|<span style="color:black; font-family:Magneto">Silver</span>]] '''''('''''[[User Talk:JLSilver|<span style="color:black; font-family:Magneto">Discusión</span>]]''''')''''' 00:54, December 9, 2012 (UTC).
 
 
::While you're free to come to your own decisions about things not stated in any canon source, such as the makeup of Albus Dumbledore's original wand, this wiki does not allow speculation or original research, and thus such a discussion would be against policy. If you wish to have such a discussion somewhere, a ''Harry Potter'' forum or chat room would be a more appropriate place. [[List of Harry Potter fan websites|This page]] may be a good place to start searching for one. -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] <sup>([[User_talk:1337star|Drop me a line!]])</sup> 01:35, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==More suitable main picture?==
 
I really think that there should be a different main picture. The current one doesn't look good, I think. What about these:
 
 
<gallery>
 
AlbusDumbledore-001.jpeg
 
AlbusDumbledore-002.jpg
 
AlbusDumbledore-003.jpg
 
</gallery>
 
 
I like the first one a lot. -- ''[[User:PerryPeverell|PerryPeverell]]'' 14:07, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:No offence, but as we're supposed to use the most recent one as canon and all three of those were earlier than HBP (which is where the current one is from), we're supposed to use the one we have now. At least, that's how the other articles are, sorry to say. --<span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:0.56cm;">[[User:Hunnie Bunn|<font face="Bridgnorth" size="4" color="Indigo">Hunnie Bunn</font>]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|<font face="Bridgnorth" size="3" color="Indigo">Owl me!</font>]])</span> 14:29, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know. Still, I think there should be another, more suitable picture for Dumbledore's infobox. -- ''[[User:PerryPeverell|PerryPeverell]]'' 17:28, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
 

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Michael Gambom&Richard Harris Edit

I was wondering shouldnt there be an explanation on why dumbledore looks different In universeOrangerichard56 (talk) 07:54, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Death Edit

Is it ever explicitly stated that he died in June? It is a mere week or two after the attack on Draco Malfoy with Sectumsempra that Dumbledore dies, and unless I am much mistaken that happened in May. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 00:58, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

According to Scrimgeour (and Hermione) in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Chapter 7 (The Will of Albus Dumbledore), the Ministry has the right to maintain possession of Dumbledore's bequests for thirty-one days only, in accordance with the Decree for Justifiable Confiscation. Dumbledore's bequests were delivered to Ron, Hermione and Harry on 31 July 1997: Harry Potter's seventeenth birthday. As it is referred in that chapter that the "thirty-one days are up", Dumbledore died exactly thirty-one days earlier, in the evening of 30 June. HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 01:12, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

How likely is it that the Ministry grabbed his stuff the night he died? It's generally agreed they took the possessions on the day of the funeral. We therefore know the funeral took place on 30 June, and that his death happened a few weeks prior to that. Therefore, it could be either very late May or very early June. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 01:58, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
The will would have been turned over to the ministry the moment he passed away, as wills do in the Muggle world too. They had the will for 31 days, thus he died at the end of June. HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 02:27, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
So, we know he died sometime in late June, as per Betty Braithwaite's newspaper article in the Daily Prophet. We know the exams usually happen from the 1st to the 6th (except for 1994, where they happened around the 24th), and that they were postponed for a few days. They ended anywhere from three to seven days before the funeral, during which Harry, Ginny and the lot visited the hospital wing, and that they go on for a week. Thus, they ended anywhere from the 29th to the 25th, and thus began on either the 22nd or 18th. Is there any way of pinpointing a more exact death date? --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 22:30, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

Master of DeathEdit

Should it not be pointed out that he was Master of Death, having possessed all three Hallows for a period of time. Pesa123456789 (talk) 14:21, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

He did not, however, possess all three Hallows concurrently. He gave Harry the Cloak of Invisibility for Christmas in 1991, and only got the Ressurection Stone in the summer of 1996 (between the close of Order of the Phoenix and the start of Half-Blood Prince, when he got his hand cursed). --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 15:39, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

Horcrux-HuntingEdit

Just wondered, does anyone know where Dumbledore went when he got kicked out by Fudge and Dawlish and Umbridge and Weatherby? Dumbledore explicitly states in Order of the Phoenix that he wouldn't return to go to Grimmauld Place, nor would he be hiding. The comment "Fudge will soon wish he'd never dislodged me" is ambiguous for me, but I thought perhaps at that time he was beginning the hunt for Horcruxes? Or else heading around to question the Gaunts, Hokey and Ogden?--Hunnie Bunn (talk) 15:46, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

Wand Edit

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I saw this article online and how one of the questions asked was "What was Dumbledore's wand made of?", and the answer was to do with elder wood. Elder is tricky to master, containing powerful magic, and needs to be with a wizard superior to his or her company; they have to be remarkable, unusual and special. Dumbledore is all of those things. While it's possible (nay, probable) that Rowling was talking about the Elder Wand, there is a slim chance she was also speaking at the same time of Dumbledore's first wand. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 19:28, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

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