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The "Personality and traits" section of the Snape article needs reworking. The first portion focuses mainly on Snape's spiteful conduct as a Professor and repeats some of the information about Harry now found in the "Relationships" section. I think we need to expand coverage relating to Snape's other personality traits. As for the "Magical Abilities and Skills" section, I think it needs to be converted into paragraph format, as well as edited for tone. If you have any ideas for these two sections, feel free to edit the working draft, or you can share your thoughts here. -Starstuff 16:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree. I think it's relevant to Snape's personality to mention that he showed favouritism as a professor and was often very snide towards students he disliked, but it is a bit repetitive with Harry. Similarly, other traits of his (e.g. bravery, intelligence, cyncism, etc.) could be discussed more. The abilities and skills could be placed in a separate section, somewhat like the Hermione Granger article, and placed in paragraph format as Starstuff suggested. It might overlap a bit with the "Half-Blood Prince" section, but since we're planning to revise the biography anyway... Oread 17:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm working on that section now; I've removed the info about his spiteful conduct, and I'm working on adding some more general info rather than getting into specific examples. --Cubs Fan2007 17:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
I was thinking of changes exactly along the lines of what Cubs Fan has suggested. I think it would be more concise to have a sentence in "Personality" stating that Snape often treated students from outside his own House unfairly. Specific examples would probably be more helpful if placed in the "Relationships" section, where they could be used to illustrate Snape's relationship with a particular character, or with a group of characters. There are probably enough examples of unfair treatment on Snape's part to warrant a collective sub-section for Gryffindor students in "Relationships. This wouldn't include major players who warrant their own sections, such as Harry, Hermione, and Neville. Is there also some kind of standard that we should use to order the character sub-sections in "Relationships?" Does Lily come before everyone else because she was probably the most significant relationship in Snape's life? -Starstuff 07:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
That's a good question. When I started that section, I simply put Lily first because, in regards to the section as a whole, she was the first person Snape met. But it does make sense to put them in order of significance. --Cubs Fan2007 07:43, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
But what exactly determines "significance"? Do love relationships take precedence over friendships? And where to co-workers come into play? I think we should figure this out andd add it to the layout guide. What do you guys think? -- Freakatone Talk 11:11, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
There is no particular order in any of the other articles -- it would be too biased. Put them in any order you want (alphabetical maybe?) -- DarkJedi613 (Talk) 14:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I added more information to the "Personality" section and tried to make the paragraph on Snape's conduct as a professor more general. I think something remains to be said about his cynicism, however, as he did tend to assume the worst about people.

I think that articles should ideally adhere to a structure that is logical, so if we're not going to arrange "Relationships" sections by their significance to the character, then I'd suggest we do it alphabetically. As for determining significance, we could base it on which individuals the character would be likely to rank as having the most influence on their life, whether positive or negative. However, like DarkJedi said, this is completely subjective. It's easy to conclude that Snape would say Lily was the most important person in his life, if he'd admit such a thing at all, but what about the other characters? Anyone's guess, really. I do like the idea of ordering character sections based on who Snape met first — this would give some sense of personal significance, but would be more objectively based. -Starstuff 13:21, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


As this Snape is now an FA, do we need to keep the project up? No one is really working on it anymore anyway.--Matoro183 (Talk) 22:53, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

...bumping...--Matoro183 (Talk) 22:30, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, go ahead and take it down. -- Freakatone Talk 03:05, 28 September 2008 (UTC)