For discussion on Fred Weasley.
I'll help, but what actually needs doing? Toon Ganondorf (t c) 06:41, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- This article has several thing needed to be done:
- Quotes: Though this article has many of them, there are some places where they are needed
- Relashionships: We need to add a couple more relashionships such as Lee Jordan
- Images: Once Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (film) comes out, it will need more of them
The Harry Potter page will be our set standard. Hope that cleared it up. Cheers! -- Madam Hooch
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OWLS
I think that it is more likely that Fred and George took different subjects. Fred was the more flamboyant twin, the more likely to do well in Transfiguration, while George, the gentler, would perform better in Herbology, like Neville. Remember that they had to pass to do the subject, not just because they wouldn't want to be seperated. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 07:40, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I agree with Toon Ganondorf. So lets try to catgory which owls they did:
Fred
- Charms - He had a Newt level Charms lesson, inspected by Umbridge
- Defence Against the Dark Arts - Was told off for playing Exploding Snap in Umbridge's class, year after OWLS.
- Transfiguration - McGonogall told him to continue transfiguring his racoon in 1994, the year after he finished his OWLS.
George
- Charms - He had a Newt level Charms lesson, inspected by Umbridge
- Defence Against the Dark Arts - Was told off for playing Exploding Snap in Umbridge's class in 1996, after OWLS.
- Herbology - George expressed his desire to sell Extendable Ears before Herbology in 1996.
Page Differences
I noticed that the Project Page is different from the actual page for fred Weasley. Is this supposed to be the case? ShirleyA 10:28, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- That's the entire point. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 10:35, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- Just like Toon said, that's the entire point. Every one or two months we will work on an article to expand it to Harry Potter article status. We will have a vote for the nex article. So please do not post things you wrote hear to the actual page until I say so. Hope I cleared that up. Cheers! -- Madam Hooch
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Too long?
Looking over the draft, I feel that the table of contents is on the long side (two pages in my word processor), and that perhaps some things in the article could stand to be shortened or consolidated into other sections. I think that the "Weasley's Wizard Wheezes" section is unnecessary because it duplicates content from the biography section and the WWW article. I also think that "Magical Abilities and Skills" should be a single section, as seems to be the standard, as opposed to being broken into multiple sub-sections. "Relationships" could use some pruning. I don't think there's enough information on Malcolm Baddock to warrant his own section. ★ Starstuff (Owl me!) 12:36, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- I agree that the section Weasley's Wizard Wheezes, should not be it's own section so I added the info to prossesions. It seems that Magical Abilities and Skills HAS to be split up as we could not fit in the quotes without splitting. I agree that someone needs to monitor the Relashionships to find any with not much info. So I have created jobs below to fix these things. -- Madam Hooch(Which Broomstick)
- I cleaned up the "Magical Abilities and Skills" section recently, but I didn't want to cut out large amounts of info, though I still feel it could be trimmed significantly. Most articles with that section do not have subheadings; they use bold text to break apart and describe each skill. I know we wanted a lot of quotes, but it's becoming excessive.
- There are similar issues with the "Relationships" section. There is no need for there to be so many subheadings; it just clutters things and lengthens the table of contents, a concern Starstuff brought up above. There are also too many (and too long) quotes in many sections, such as Percy Weasley's or Hermione Granger's. Personally, I think each relationship should have only one quote, unless the relationship is a particularly strong one and the section is long enough to allow two quotes. But definitely not more than two. There are also some characters that, in my opinion, Fred did not have enough of a relationship with in order to merit a section. "Dumbledore's Army" is an organisation Fred joined, not a character he had a relationship with. The only thing we know about the twins' relationship with Snape was that he often deducted points from them - which he did for just about any Gryffindor and isn't indicative of a relationship. Fred had an opinion on the Ministry of Magic, but he didn't have a relationship with what is, again, not a person but an organisation. Oread (talk) 23:48, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- I agree, could someone fix that? -- Madam Hooch
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Quote
For the quote; "E for Exceeds Expectations. And I've always though Fred and I should've got E in everything, because we exceeded expectations just by turning up for the exams." —Fred Weasley I think that somewhere in here is wrong because it says Fred and I, then the quote is said to have been by Fred. If Fred really said this shouldn't it have said George and I? Skyreader 15:30, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- I fix that. -- Madam Hooch(Which Broomstick)
Jobs
There has been some very good edits being done but we need to seprate these tasks into jobs so please sign your name below:
Magical Entrepreneur
Cleans up, expands and add quotes to the Magical Abilities and Skills.
Personal Collector
Works with the Prossesions.
Relashionships Caretaker
Expands, cleans up the Relashionships.