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Edit warring: Emma Watson

Yesterday I edited the above page because the first part of her dual nationality was stated (incorrectly) as "English". As I have pointed out, this is wrong because England is not a nation; it's a country, one of the constituent countries of the nation of Great Britain, and the corresponding nationality is thus "British". (This is a common error, but the fact of it being common doesn't make it any less an error.)

Despite this, Jack "BtR" Saxon has reverted the edit (and re-reverted my correction), claiming that "English is a nationality". Which is nonsense; England is not a nation, and only nations have associated nationalities. It would make just as much sense to claim that "Londoner" is a nationality.

I think someone should have a few words with him, and ask him to get his facts right before any further editing. — RobertATfm (talk) 14:39, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

As a neutral party, pointing out:

Per Wiktionary:

Usage notes

(British) Following the establishment of the Scottish and Welsh parliaments, England, Scotland and Wales are normally considered distinct nations. Application of the term nation to the United Kingdom as a whole is deprecated in most style guides, including the BBC, most newspapers and in UK Government publications.

And Dictionary.com defines "nation" as (1) a large body of people, associated with a particular territory, that is sufficiently conscious of its unity to seek or to possess a government peculiarly its own, or (2) the territory or country itself.

So I think "English" could be a valid nationality. --Cubs Fan (Talk to me) 19:28, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

The Oxford English Dictionary states that a nation is a group united by factors that include language, culture, history, or occupation of the same territory and the Office for National Statistics found that 58% of people in Britain described their nationality as being English. -- Saxon 19:44, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

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+==Edit warring: [[Emma Watson]]==
-==[[User:88.104.240.210]]==
+Yesterday I edited the above page because the first part of her dual nationality was stated (incorrectly) as "English". As I have pointed out, this is wrong because England is not a nation; it's a country, one of the constituent countries of the nation of Great Britain, and the corresponding nationality is thus "British". (This is a common error, but the fact of it being common doesn't make it any less an error.)
-This user has today vandalized the user page of [[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] and despite my warning - or because of my warning - he made insultings against me on [[User talk:Harry granger|my talk page]]. He should either be warned by an admin or blocked. His own talk page is also very interesting. <span style="border:1px solid #E56717;">[[User:Harry granger|<font style="background:#F75D59;color:gold;">&nbsp;'''Harry granger'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Harry granger|<font style="background:yellow;color:black;">&nbsp;''' Talk&nbsp;'''</font>]]<font style="background:yellow;color:;">&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Harry granger|<font style="background: #99CCFF;color:#993300;">&nbsp;'''contribs'''</font>]]<font style="background: #99CCFF;color:#993300;"> </font></font></span> 21:38, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
+Despite this, [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Jack "BtR" Saxon]] has reverted the edit (and re-reverted my correction), claiming that "English is a nationality". Which is nonsense; '''England is not a nation''', and '''only nations have associated nationalities'''. It would make just as much sense to claim that "Londoner" is a nationality.
-This above mentioned user was again on my user talk page - Fuck word is now F word, but is that better?<br /><span style="border:1px solid #E56717;">[[User:Harry granger|<font style="background:#F75D59;color:gold;">&nbsp;'''Harry granger'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Harry granger|<font style="background:yellow;color:black;">&nbsp;''' Talk&nbsp;'''</font>]]<font style="background:yellow;color:;">&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Harry granger|<font style="background: #99CCFF;color:#993300;">&nbsp;'''contribs'''</font>]]<font style="background: #99CCFF;color:#993300;"> </font></font></span> 22:38, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
-:Blocked for a period of one month - obviously not here to build an encyclopedia. If you want to just remove the message they left, feel free. [[User:ProfessorTofty|ProfessorTofty]] ([[User talk:ProfessorTofty|talk]]) 22:40, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
+I think someone should have a few words with him, and ask him to get his facts right before any further editing. — [[User:RobertATfm|RobertATfm]] ([[User_talk:RobertATfm|talk]]) 14:39, January 5, 2015 (UTC)
-==[[Special:Contributions/189.182.24.26|Contributions/189.182.24.26]]==
-Has blanked three pages (since restored), even claiming in one case to have made the page "more intelligent"''[sic]'' — I suppose that's for all values of "e intelligent" equalling "onic". Why this user hasn't yet been slapped with a block of at least one month, I don't know. — [[User:RobertATfm|RobertATfm]] ([[User_talk:RobertATfm|talk]]) 21:31, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
-:The user in question has only made those edits, back on January 3, and hasn't been back since. They were duly warned and if it's done again, a block will be made. [[User:ProfessorTofty|ProfessorTofty]] ([[User talk:ProfessorTofty|talk]]) 22:39, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
+As a neutral party, pointing out:
-==[[User:Success777]]==
-Is here only to spam acne products, has posted a spam video. Clearly no interest in Harry Potter or in building an encyclopaedia. — [[User:RobertATfm|RobertATfm]] ([[User_talk:RobertATfm|talk]]) 19:27, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
+: Per [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nation#Usage_notes Wiktionary]:
-:Video deleted and user blocked. [[User:ProfessorTofty|ProfessorTofty]] ([[User talk:ProfessorTofty|talk]]) 19:45, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
+: Usage notes
-::[[User:Cavite]] was also adding spam.
+:: ''(British) Following the establishment of the Scottish and Welsh parliaments, England, Scotland and Wales are normally considered distinct nations. Application of the term nation to the United Kingdom as a whole is deprecated in most style guides, including the BBC, most newspapers and in UK Government publications.''
+: And [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nation Dictionary.com] defines "nation" as (1) a large body of people, associated with a particular territory, that is sufficiently conscious of its unity to seek or to possess a government peculiarly its own, or (2) the territory or country itself.
-==[[Special:Contributions/204.10.219.119|204.10.219.119]], [[Special:Contributions/82.8.36.222|82.8.36.222]], [[Special:Contributions/98.102.129.48|98.102.129.48]], [[Special:Contributions/71.185.150.187|71.185.150.187]], [[Special:Contributions/61.170.84|61.170.84]], [[Special:Contributions/94.8.254.79|94.8.254.79]], [[Special:Contributions/184.57.140.73|184.57.140.73]]==
+So I think "English" ''could'' be a valid nationality. --<span style="border: 2px blue solid; background-color: blue;">[[User:Cubs Fan2007|<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="red">'''Cubs Fan'''</font>]] [[User talk:Cubs Fan2007|<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="white">'''(Talk to me)'''</font>]]</span> 19:28, January 5, 2015 (UTC)
-Please warn or block the first five users for removing the whole Harry Potter page, and adding in random information. The sixth user made a page, which cursed. Thanks for looking. {{User:Yugimuto1/Sig|21:08,1/11/2013}}
+:The Oxford English Dictionary states that a nation is a group united by factors that include language, culture, history, or occupation of the same territory and the Office for National Statistics found that 58% of people in Britain described their nationality as being English. -- [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Saxon]] 19:44, January 5, 2015 (UTC)
-:I'm on it, now. Thanks. [[User:ProfessorTofty|ProfessorTofty]] ([[User talk:ProfessorTofty|talk]]) 22:06, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
-==File:Lyra_belacqua_by_aerie_faerie-d4ydl2t.png==
-Apart from the fact that this image is misnamed (on the HDM Wiki this character is called "Lyra Silvertongue" because that's what she's most often called in the series), and the fact that it doesn't really belong here (except possibly as a user-page image — the uploader is called "Lyra888"), this image is a clear copyright violation; a watermark in the middle shows that it was copied from Deviant Art, so unless it was copied from the uploader's own Deviant Art account (and there's no evidence of this), the uploader had no right to copy it here. On this basis, I've already deleted this image from the HDM Wiki (where, even if there's no copyright violation, it doesn't belong because of the "no fanon" policy there). — [[User:RobertATfm|RobertATfm]] ([[User_talk:RobertATfm|talk]]) 21:36, February 25, 2013 (UTC)
-==[[Albus Dumbledore]]==
-I've just reverted three very similar edits to this page, ostensibly by two different editors but the similarity makes me suspect that one may be a sockpuppet of the other. Both sets of edits introduced the (to my knowledge false) information that Dumbledore was born in the 1840s rather than 1881; and as if to underscore my view that these were vandal edits, the first also changed one spelling of "even" to "ev4n" whilst the second pair added unnecessary formatting. Also, the first of these two was done within five minutes of my reverting the very first one.
-Is further action needed? — [[User:RobertATfm|RobertATfm]] ([[User_talk:RobertATfm|talk]]) 01:30, March 4, 2013 (UTC)
-:JKR reportedly stated that Dumbledore was 150 in a [http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2000/1000-scholastic-chat.htm 2000 Scholastic.com live interview]. Which, based on the fact that the books are set in the 1990s, would've put his birth in the 1840s. Fans accepted this as Dumbledore's age for a long time, until ''Deathly Hallows'' was released and it was revealed he was born in 1881 instead. That means JKR either changed her mind about Dumbledore's age at some point, or whoever transcribed the interview misheard "one-hundred-fifty" when JKR really said "one-hundred-fifteen" (someone born in 1881 would've been 113/114 in 1994 and 1995, the years in which GoF, released in 2000, are set — remember that JKR has admitted that maths aren't her strong suit).
-:So I wouldn't necessarily label the edits to the Albus Dumbledore as the deliberate insertion of false information; it may be the case of someone forgetting the most recent canon information and correcting what seemed to them to be an error. "Ev4n" may also simply be a strange typo, since the "4" key is located above the "e" key.
-:If the situation progresses to edit warring, article protection will be warranted, but I don't think it's reached that point at this time. <font color="Green">&#x2605;</font> [[User:Starstuff|<font face="Times" color="green">S</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">t</font><font face="Times" color="green">a</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">r</font><font face="Times" color="green">s</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">t</font><font face="Times" color="green">u</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">f</font><font face="Times" color="green">f</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Starstuff|<font face="Times" color="darkgreen">(Owl me!)</font>]]</sup> 02:37, March 4, 2013 (UTC)
-::Small correction: JKR didn't reveal Dumbledore's birth year in DH, but rather when she featured him as Wizard of the Month on her official site (the original link is dead, but an archived copy can be viewed [http://web.archive.org/web/20100205155451/http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/wotm.cfm here] on the Wayback Machine). <font color="Green">&#x2605;</font> [[User:Starstuff|<font face="Times" color="green">S</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">t</font><font face="Times" color="green">a</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">r</font><font face="Times" color="green">s</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">t</font><font face="Times" color="green">u</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">f</font><font face="Times" color="green">f</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Starstuff|<font face="Times" color="darkgreen">(Owl me!)</font>]]</sup> 02:57, March 4, 2013 (UTC)
-==Edit warring: [[Molly Weasley]]==
-I just reverted an edit to this page by [[User:Sev Lover Forever]], because it looks to me like a vandal edit (this user has removed the Name parameter from the infobox), and because it also claims "no canon source" for the information deleted, despite the sources given looking valid to me.
-However, my revert has simply been re-reverted, so I think admin intervention is needed. — [[User:RobertATfm|RobertATfm]] ([[User_talk:RobertATfm|talk]]) 22:24, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
-==User: Awesomekayxx==
-I think this user needs to be warned by an admin; to judge by her posts, and by the pictures she has uploaded (two of which I've marked for deletion on the grounds of being irrelevant, but I suspect that most of her pictures can be deleted on this basis), she seems to regard this wiki as another social networking site. Maybe she needs to be set straight. — [[User:RobertATfm|RobertATfm]] ([[User_talk:RobertATfm|talk]]) 02:52, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
-:Yeah, maybe it's me, but it seems like we've been getting more and more of those lately. Anyway, I warned her earlier about an off-topic blog, so perhaps we can leave it at that for now, with a further warning if need be. And I'll have a look at those images... [[User:ProfessorTofty|ProfessorTofty]] ([[User talk:ProfessorTofty|talk]]) 04:53, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
-==Anonymous user==
-An anon currently editing under the IP address 92.236.68.145 is editing warring over the page [[Crushing Cabinet]] and related pages such as [[Vanishing Cabinet]] and [[Hogwarts-Borgin and Burkes Vanishing Cabinet pair]]. While I am willing to accept some responsiblity for the edit war as well (perhaps I should and can explain our polices more clearly), I believe that the anon is mostly at fault here. -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] <sup>([[User_talk:1337star|Drop me a line!]])</sup> 00:58, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
-:If I might add something... I too am partially at fault for this. However, the anon consistently removes sourced facts (as well as the name in the infobox, though this I am willing to believe is accidental) despite being asked to provide a source before removing valid information. --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 01:27, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
-::Removal of the name is indeed a glitch caused by the flakiness of the visual editor. However, insertion (and re-insertion after removal) of what amounts to fanon speculation is not; nor is removal for no apparent reason of a valid youmay tag, which I just reverted. -- [[User:RobertATfm|RobertATfm]] ([[User_talk:RobertATfm|talk]]) 01:46, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
-:::Said user (link [http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/92.236.68.145 here]) has continued the argument after it has ended, and if "idiot" is considered a personal attack then he/she has also violated the no personal attacks policy. --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 00:12, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
-::::Since no warning has been issued previously, I have issued an official warning. If the behaviour continues, a block will be made. [[User:ProfessorTofty|ProfessorTofty]] ([[User talk:ProfessorTofty|talk]]) 00:43, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
-==User:Nonononononon==
-Clearly a vandalism-only account with no interest in making constructive edits. — [[User:RobertATfm|RobertATfm]] ([[User_talk:RobertATfm|talk]]) 14:51, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
-:Agreed. This is, like, his 5th edit, and he has only destroyed perfect articles. Removed article content from [[Harry Potter]], removed mention of [[Helena Ravenclaw]]'s blood from [[Bloody Baron]] and changing Norwegian to Mexican on [[Lars Berteig Andersen]]. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] ([[User talk:Danniesen|talk]]) 14:55, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
-::Warning issued; if anymore unconstructive edits are made, a block will be done. [[User:ProfessorTofty|ProfessorTofty]] ([[User talk:ProfessorTofty|talk]]) 19:45, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
-==Edit Warring: [[In Noctem]]==
-This is about the 4th time i have undone 'corrections' given without source to the lyrics to this song. I have the original sheet music and can thus confirm that the lyrics as i have them are correct, could just the lyrics section to this page be locked? [[User:Mattpartridge24|Mattpartridge24]] ([[User talk:Mattpartridge24|talk]]) 21:21, July 26, 2013 (UTC)
-:Can I please have a look at that sheet in an upload of a picture of it? :) And if that match the lyrics sung in the soundtrack then I fully agree. :) --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] ([[User talk:Danniesen|talk]]) 21:29, July 26, 2013 (UTC)
-:::Here they are: http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/File:In_Noctem.jpg and http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/File:In_Noctem_2.jpg. [[User:Mattpartridge24|Mattpartridge24]] ([[User talk:Mattpartridge24|talk]]) 16:02, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
-::::The edit warring looks ridiculous. Basically all, I see is that Wiki Contributor's are changing the endings with the formal's "ed"'s and "ing"'s. I agree, if he has the sheet music. It should be locked to IP address. {{user:Fleur Granger/sig1}} 16:07, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
-==[[User:Helgen]]==
-I would like to report the removal of "noncanon" tags by [[User:Helgen|this user]], which has resulted in edit warring because the articles tagged are actually noncanon. (S)he (don't know their gender) insists that the articles [[Skirmish in the Viaduct Courtyard]], [[Courtyard Apocalypse]] and [[Burning of the Burrow]] are canon, and refuses to listen to the two warnings I have posted on their page. --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 22:16, October 18, 2013 (UTC)
-==[[Talk:Petunia Dursley]]==
-===[[User:HarryPotterRules1]]===
-I think enough is enough. Ridiculous, time-consuming talk page arguments (I think it stopped being an academic discussion, if it ever was, a long time ago). Direct personal assaults (to admins, no less!). This user clearly isn't going to see reason through any sort of reasonable discussion. CubsFan mentioned it as I am typing this, but I would like to formally request a temporary block for this user, so as he may cool off a bit and consider his actions and future conduct. -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] <sup>([[User_talk:1337star|Drop me a line!]])</sup> 23:50, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
-===[[User: 1337star]] and [[User: Seth Cooper]]===
-Not listening to opinions.
-Shoving their own opinions down other peoples throats.
-Acting as if admins are better than everyone else - they're not; they're nothing but people with power who SHOULDN'T have power. --[[User:HarryPotterRules1|HarryPotterRules1]] ([[User talk:HarryPotterRules1|talk]]) 23:57, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
-:I find this particularly ridiculous, as:
-:#1337star isn't an admin.
-:#You yourself were yelling at {{U|Simen Johannes Fagerli}} that, and I quote you, "''the admins have spoken; it's speculation. Do us all a favour and SHUT! THE! HELL! UP! They are right - you are wrong; if I was in this position, I would have been blocked - or blocked you if you'd been on the wiki I run - so be thankful you're still here!''".
-:#They were simply using hard, cold [[canon]] facts to try to correct your misguided, repetitive arguments (if this is personal attack feel free to block me for however long is necessary, I'm done with this.) --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 00:22, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-And I use J.K. Rowling information - which overrides and beats everything - to prove them wrong; they're just being stubborn now. It '''''would''''' by Wikipedia standards, be a personal attack (due to calling me - who started the discussion - misguided) but I'm not bothered. I get enough of them to learn to just lock it in my mind and get revenge later by beating them down on a subject where they are blatantly wrong and then revelling in my glory. --[[User:HarryPotterRules1|HarryPotterRules1]] ([[User talk:HarryPotterRules1|talk]]) 00:27, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-::Sorry, but I just wanted to point out one thing: both sides of the argument are using Rowling's information, just from different perspectives. If it were up to me, the two of us both you and I - you for foul language and for insulting the other users and me for insulting you after - would be blocked. --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 00:30, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-::Thankfully, it's not. It's up to professionals. --[[User:HarryPotterRules1|HarryPotterRules1]] ([[User talk:HarryPotterRules1|talk]]) 00:36, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-:::As a neutral (albeit mostly inactive) admin (and bureaucrat), I say you need to remain civil and try to reach consensus. Failure to do so would result in a block. [[User:John Reaves|John Reaves]] [[User talk:John Reaves|(talk)]] 01:08, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-:::We've tried that; trust me, it '''''HASN'T''''' worked. --[[User:HarryPotterRules1|HarryPotterRules1]] ([[User talk:HarryPotterRules1|talk]]) 01:09, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-::::First step, cut the bold and italics. Regardless of content, incivility will not be tolerated. Consider compromise. [[User:John Reaves|John Reaves]] [[User talk:John Reaves|(talk)]] 01:11, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-:::::One can never try too many times. I doubt it'll do much good, but I'd be prepared to give it one last shot... --[[User:Hunnie Bunn|Hunnie Bunn]] ([[User talk:Hunnie Bunn|talk]]) 01:12, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-:::::: I'm willing to try... but only if all - and I mean ALL - admins take a test and get rid of the "I am better than you so I am always right" attitude that they take when attempting to stop us from having opinions, which they often do. --[[User:HarryPotterRules1|HarryPotterRules1]] ([[User talk:HarryPotterRules1|talk]]) 01:17, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-:::'''Edit conflict:''' Thankfully, these matters are easily settled by policy: "''[[HPW:NPA|Disagreements about content such as "Your statement about X is wrong" or "Your statement is a point of view, not fact" are not personal attacks.]]''" I have nothing more to say, really. If a counterargument is presented, it is to be discussed. And calling an argument misguided cannot, ever, be considered a ''personal'' attack (unless, of course, you consider your argument to be a ''person'' in itself). Civility should be mantained, but discussion cannot be halted on the grounds that there are disagreements. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 01:18, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-::::Well, perhaps sometimes it should; I've been more offended on this wiki by you admins than I have anywhere else in the world. --[[User:HarryPotterRules1|HarryPotterRules1]] ([[User talk:HarryPotterRules1|talk]]) 01:20, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-:::::Adminship has no bearing on content issues. [[User:John Reaves|John Reaves]] [[User talk:John Reaves|(talk)]] 01:21, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-:::::No, but I've still seen some admins be - if you'll pardon my language - evil little buggers. --[[User:HarryPotterRules1|HarryPotterRules1]] ([[User talk:HarryPotterRules1|talk]]) 01:22, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-::::::Plenty of non admins could be classified as such as well. Focus on content, not user permissions. [[User:John Reaves|John Reaves]] [[User talk:John Reaves|(talk)]] 01:24, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-:::::::I think HarryPotterRules1's last comment clarified the issue. Having said that, I say no more. -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 01:26, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-I do - the admins, as you'll see from looking at the argument - do not. It only became an argument because they refused to accept something that was right. --[[User:HarryPotterRules1|HarryPotterRules1]] ([[User talk:HarryPotterRules1|talk]]) 01:26, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-:But this is preposterous. So, instead of arguments, we should have one-sided impositions? -- <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User:Seth Cooper|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''Seth Cooper'''&nbsp;</font>]][[User talk:Seth Cooper|<font style="background:#333333;color:white;">&nbsp;'''owl&nbsp;post!'''</font>]]</span></small> 01:29, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-:Yes. My argument - which wasn't an argument until the admins interferred - was sound. --[[User:HarryPotterRules1|HarryPotterRules1]] ([[User talk:HarryPotterRules1|talk]]) 01:32, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-::My two cents, as someone who really hasn't been all that involved here-- I have seen a regular pattern from you of adding or editing information based on faulty assumptions or inferences that are speculative at best. When your edits are undone or you are asked about it by others, you argue continuously and often take a "you vs. them" attitude that is entirely uncalled-for. I have to agree that it can't be allowed to continue, and I would support any block that was made if it does. In fact, I might be the one to do it myself. [[User:ProfessorTofty|ProfessorTofty]] ([[User talk:ProfessorTofty|talk]]) 22:44, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
-::I cannot win with you people, can I? I do wonder, on many, many occasions, as to why I even both asking qustions; with admins, it always ends the same way! --[[User:HarryPotterRules1|HarryPotterRules1]] ([[User talk:HarryPotterRules1|talk]]) 23:44, October 29, 2013 (UTC)