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A quick read through the user images category will show you that there are many unused images that were uploaded a considerable amount of time. I propose a sporadic clean-up to get rid of those excessive images, just like we do in Activeusers. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 01:20, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

I Agree, good idea Seth. -- Ratneer Owl Me! 01:22, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
I concur, but I also think we need to be very clear about the criteria we'll use for removal, since this isn't as simple as taking the name off the Activeusers list. Names can easily be re-added, but there's no guarantee the user who originally uploaded the image still has it saved somewhere. How about a general standard of six months of inactivity to remove user pics, with perhaps a stricter three month standard for users who have not made enough article edits to meet Voting policy or who are in violation of the Excessive user page policy, and maybe a looser one year standard for trusted users who have made over 1,000 edits. - Nick O'Demus 12:17, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
In addition to this proposal, I will be instigating a general image clean up in the new year, deleting any and all images that have been uploaded and not placed in articles. This wiki should not serve as an image repository; images are there to support text. Unused images will be deleted if they cannot be placed in articles. This will also apply to user images. - Cavalier OneGryffindorcrest(Wizarding Wireless Network) 12:21, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
One major issue with that plan is that a lot of images that aren't featured directly in articles are still used as key references. This applies mainly to articles based on text found on objects in the films and games: signs, product labels, issues of the Daily Prophet and The Quibbler, etc.
The reference image can't always be included in the article for various reasons, such as it might be out-of-universe (e.g., from a prop exhibit with visible display labels, or from a behind-the-scenes special with production equipment visible), or or because it isn't appropriate for inclusion in the article based on it (e.g., a picture of a newspaper would be out-of-place in a character stub).
There's other cases in which we might need two versions of an image in order to fully construct text that's used as the basis for article content (e.g., File:EditorofWitchWeekly.jpg has a complete portrait and clearer text, but part of the text is cut off, and File:Tobias_Manlethorpe.jpg has a smaller, incomplete portrait, but the text is complete, although hard to read).
Many of these visual references have been painstakingly collected from the films and games by our users. They are not available anywhere else but the Harry Potter Wiki, and, as such, cannot be linked to conveniently at off-site sources like the Leaky Cauldron or the Lexicon. We need these reference images to support the existence of a lot of articles on subjects from the movies and games — otherwise it just looks like we're making stuff up.
We need to catalogue all the reference images — perhaps by adding them to an "Images used for reference" category — before we begin any general image clean-up. Simply "deleting any and all images that have been uploaded and not placed in articles" would have disastrous results on a wiki that depends heavily on reference images to support the movie and game-related articles that are its trademark. Starstuff (Owl me!) 20:30, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Of course, images of those nature will remain and will be exempt from the clean up. I never intended for those images to be deleted, just those images that some users upload then never use. We can create a Category:Image sources (or something similar) and place those images that are used as article references in it. We can then use said images along with references tags (if we don't already). Of course, we will need the users that uploaded the images to categorise them to be sure of their inclusion, and possibly to note their use as reference material in an article on the actual file page. - Cavalier OneGryffindorcrest(Wizarding Wireless Network) 20:41, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

References images are usually linked to in articles through a ref tag or Template:Transcribed image. Linking to an image won't make it show up in the "File links" section on the image's page, so reference images will look unused, and the only way make it apparent that they're in use will be to manually catalogue them all. Starstuff (Owl me!) 20:56, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
I went ahead and created Category:Reference images. I've gone through my own edit history and added this category to all applicable images, and have asked Seth Cooper, one of the other top contributors of movie and game-related information, to do the same when he's got the time. Starstuff (Owl me!) 23:06, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

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