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::"''They're not all bad. I know I've said this before. I think I said it to Emerson - they are not all bad and-- well, far from it, as we know, at the end-- they may have a slightly more highly developed sense of preservation than other people, because-- A part of the final battle that made me smile was Slughorn galloping back with Slytherins. But they've gone off to get reinforcements first, you know what I'm saying? So yes, they came back, they came back to fight. But I'm sure many people would say, well that's common sense, isn't it? Isn't that smart, to get out, get more people and come back with them? It's the old saying, there is no truth, there are only points of view.''"
 
::"''They're not all bad. I know I've said this before. I think I said it to Emerson - they are not all bad and-- well, far from it, as we know, at the end-- they may have a slightly more highly developed sense of preservation than other people, because-- A part of the final battle that made me smile was Slughorn galloping back with Slytherins. But they've gone off to get reinforcements first, you know what I'm saying? So yes, they came back, they came back to fight. But I'm sure many people would say, well that's common sense, isn't it? Isn't that smart, to get out, get more people and come back with them? It's the old saying, there is no truth, there are only points of view.''"
   
:The only Slytherins definitively known to have been aligned with the Order were Severus Snape, Horace Slughorn, and Andromeda Tonks. But, ultimately, I think the answer to the question of how many "good Slytherins" there were depends on how one defines "good." There's no evidence that [[Terence Higgs]], [[Adrian Pucey]], [[Miles Bletchley]], [[Marcus Flint]], [[Montague]], or [[Daphne Greengrass]] were pure-blood supremacists, let alone Death Eaters. Many of the Slytherins mentioned in the previous sentence behaved like jerks, but as James, Sirius, and Snape demonstrate, "good person" isn't always synonymous with "nice person." <font color="Green"></font> [[User:Starstuff|<font face="Times" color="green">S</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">t</font><font face="Times" color="green">a</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">r</font><font face="Times" color="green">s</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">t</font><font face="Times" color="green">u</font><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">f</font><font face="Times" color="green">f</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Starstuff|<font face="Times" color="darkgreen">(Owl me!)</font>]]</sup> 03:36, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
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:The only Slytherins definitively known to have been aligned with the Order were Severus Snape, Horace Slughorn, and Andromeda Tonks. But, ultimately, I think the answer to the question of how many "good Slytherins" there were depends on how one defines "good." There's no evidence that [[Terence Higgs]], [[Adrian Pucey]], [[Miles Bletchley]], [[Marcus Flint]], [[Montague]], or [[Daphne Greengrass]] were pure-blood supremacists, let alone Death Eaters. Many of the Slytherins mentioned in the previous sentence behaved like jerks, but as James, Sirius, and Snape demonstrate, "good person" isn't always synonymous with "nice person." <font color="Green">&#x2605;</font color> [[User:Starstuff|<font face="Times" color="green">S</font color><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">t</font color><font face="Times" color="green">a</font color><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">r</font color><font face="Times" color="green">s</font color><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">t</font color><font face="Times" color="green">u</font color><font face="Times" color="dimgrey">f</font color><font face="Times" color="green">f</font color>]] <sup>[[User talk:Starstuff|<font face="Times" color="darkgreen">(Owl me!)</font>]]</sup> 03:36, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
   
 
I get it now, we only see Slytherin from Harry's point of view. I bet even some Slytherins liked the Gryffindor people. So really it should be: Gryffindor=Bravery, Ravenclaw=Intelligence, Hufflepuff=Loyalty and Slytherin=Common sense =D [[Special:Contributions/90.211.84.250|90.211.84.250]] 20:41, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 
I get it now, we only see Slytherin from Harry's point of view. I bet even some Slytherins liked the Gryffindor people. So really it should be: Gryffindor=Bravery, Ravenclaw=Intelligence, Hufflepuff=Loyalty and Slytherin=Common sense =D [[Special:Contributions/90.211.84.250|90.211.84.250]] 20:41, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 
The thing about "good" Slytherins is that, as JFK said, they probably knew very well how to keep to themselves and to avoid getting caught in the spotlight (and thus being targetted). "Smart" good people probably do not feel the need to advertise themselves, especially since ultimately, "good" decisions are usually harsh ones. No Gryffindor will probably be caught running away from a battle even to get reinforcements, for example. I think it's more Slytherin=Ambition or Self-progress. That would explain how Slytherins are more easily drawn to dark magic (short cuts to power) or are arrogant, even supremacist (a result of having great amounts of confidence and pride - to the point that they develop a disdain for their fellows, sadly).
 

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How many GOOD Slytherins have there been?

Oh and I also wonder what would've happened if Voldemort won the war.

Well, i would imagin Horace Slughorn, if he attended Hogwarts is known, but he would of been a "good" slytherin. As well as Severus Snape.

Even Andromeda Tonks, who married a muggle-born, was a Slytherin.--Rodolphus 15:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

There have definitely been good Slytherins, but this brings me to a similar point. In Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (film) (I'm not sure if it's in the book), Ron says "there wasn't a witch or wizard who went bad that wasn't in Slytherin]]. Isn't that incorrect? Because at the time, he would have thought Sirius Black "went bad" (he murdered 12 muggles and was sent to Azkaban), as he knew of the story, but Sirius was in Gryffindor, along with Peter Pettigrew, who actually committed the crime. Margiechocoholic 08:46, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I think Hagrid was the person who talked about "not a single dark wizard outside of Slytherin"

Well in the movie it was definitely Ron. By the way, please don't forget to sign your edits with 4 tildes (~). Thanks. Margiechocoholic 12:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Narcissa Malfoy was a Slyhterin but she still betrayed Voldemort and saved Harry's life. ShirleyA 00:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Rowling has been asked about "good Slytherins" on at least two occasions. The first was during an interview with Melissa Anelli and Emerson Spartz in 2005:
"But they're not all bad. They literally are not all bad... [a lot of dialogue omitted for brevity] ...We, the reader, and I as the writer, because I'm leading you all there — you are seeing Slytherin house always from the perspective of Death Eaters' children. They are a small fraction of the total Slytherin population. I'm not saying all the other Slytherins are adorable, but they're certainly not Draco, they're certainly not, you know, Crabbe and Goyle. They're not all like that, that would be too brutal for words, wouldn’t it?"
The second was during the 2007 PotterCast interview with Melissa, John Noe, and Sue Upton:
"They're not all bad. I know I've said this before. I think I said it to Emerson - they are not all bad and-- well, far from it, as we know, at the end-- they may have a slightly more highly developed sense of preservation than other people, because-- A part of the final battle that made me smile was Slughorn galloping back with Slytherins. But they've gone off to get reinforcements first, you know what I'm saying? So yes, they came back, they came back to fight. But I'm sure many people would say, well that's common sense, isn't it? Isn't that smart, to get out, get more people and come back with them? It's the old saying, there is no truth, there are only points of view."
The only Slytherins definitively known to have been aligned with the Order were Severus Snape, Horace Slughorn, and Andromeda Tonks. But, ultimately, I think the answer to the question of how many "good Slytherins" there were depends on how one defines "good." There's no evidence that Terence Higgs, Adrian Pucey, Miles Bletchley, Marcus Flint, Montague, or Daphne Greengrass were pure-blood supremacists, let alone Death Eaters. Many of the Slytherins mentioned in the previous sentence behaved like jerks, but as James, Sirius, and Snape demonstrate, "good person" isn't always synonymous with "nice person." Starstuff (Owl me!) 03:36, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

I get it now, we only see Slytherin from Harry's point of view. I bet even some Slytherins liked the Gryffindor people. So really it should be: Gryffindor=Bravery, Ravenclaw=Intelligence, Hufflepuff=Loyalty and Slytherin=Common sense =D 90.211.84.250 20:41, 27 April 2009 (UTC)