Forum:Proposal to change the Wiki's Skin

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OK, this is going to seem like a very radical proposal to some, and, maybe it is. Basically, I'm proposing a change to the Wiki's skin. For sometime now, I've been struggling to see what our current skin has to do with Harry Potter. No disrespect to those who worked on it. It just seems like a rather random combination of colors. A comination that doesn't seem to relate to the subject this Wiki is dedicated to. It was in this frame of mind that I designed this. I've adopted the color scheme that has been used to represent the Harry Potter film series since David Yates took the helm. I think it's appropriate. The colors compliment each other quite well, and tie in nicely with our chosen subject. I'm not going to ask the community to vote straight away. I would like to garner some opinion on my design first. If the community's reaction is universially negative - I will drop the subject straight away. If, however, this is something people are interested in - I wil ask the Administrators to open a formal vote, and let the community decide for themselves. Please be aware, however, - if a formal vote is held - the community will have choice to keep the logo we are currently using, or adopt the one I included in my proposal. Well, that's pretty much it. Thank you for listening. Jayden Matthews 11:30, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

I've already looked over the design and given suggestions to Jayden and agree that it is a sound proposal. The original colours, I believe, were meant to be Gryffindor colours, but it was a while ago now so my memory is a little fuzzy on the issue :P

I'm more than willing to open a formal vote, but I'd like to keep the forum open for discussion to allow input on the new design for a small time so that the community has its say.

As for the logo, I would be very much for keeping the current one since it is our identifying mark across Wikia. That said, if any image specialists want to take a crack at changing the logo to conform with the proposed new colour scheme, be my guest and upload your effort. - Cavalier One

^{(Wizarding Wireless Network)} 12:24, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

I think, That Wiki skin is better. --ÈnŔîčö DC

^{(Send me an Owl!)} 03:17, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

I agree. And I love the design Jayden has come up with. I was one of the users who helped design the current skin (I created the Background strip and header bar). At the time I was under the impression that the theme for the site was going to be the Department of Mysteries, but apparently, I was alone in that beleif. Jayden is right, though. The current skin is very chaotic, and has no consistent theme to it. I fully support the proposal. As for the logo, I'm not so sure. I think the one with the proposed skin would look better. On the other our current one identifies us as the Harry Potter Wiki. –K.A.J^{•T•C•E•} 11:11, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

I really like the new skin. As for the logo, I don't have a strong opinion either way, but I think that, for the sake of being up-to-date, it might be ideal to opt for an HBP film-themed logo over an OoTP film-themed one. ★ Starstuff ^{(Owl me!)} 13:32, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with all of the above, and as I have already informed Jayden, I strongly support the skin change in its entirety. Not only is it visually appealing, it ties in with the scheme of the more recent Harry Potter films. Like Starstuff, I'm not really on either side of the fence when it comes to the logo - whatever makes the rest of the community happy is fine with me!--Yin & Yang^{Talk to me!} 14:01, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

I really appreciate the supportive comments that have been left on this forum. The logo I came up with was merely a matter of simplicity, because I couldn't think of anything else. The backround strip I made does have quite alot going on in it, however, waves, rock, sea and sky etc, so maybe a simpler logo would look better. It also has the advantage of 3-D lettering. Jayden Matthews 14:22, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

I agree the new one does suit the site more and also the 3d lettering of the new logo makes it more ppealing and I think if we used the current logo with the new colour scheme it may look wierd. --Miniwally^{(Owl me!)} 01:09, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

I think this is a great skin and this should be used its got a great logo and great skin i like it a lot. Lord-Voldemort 12:15, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Any suggstions for improvement? Jayden Matthews 12:55, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

I don't mean to sound hypocritical to what I said earlier, but now that I've really thought about it, could I suggest a small change? I think the colour of the... I'm not sure what to call them actually! You know, the currently maroon headers (or banners where the "edit page" and "history" icons are) that appear on your design as blue-green; I think that maybe a darker shade of blue is necessary, just to break the monotony of that light blue-green colour of the background. Only a suggestion. As for the logo, I really like yours considerably more than the current one used.--Yin & Yang^{Talk to me!} 13:15, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Could you suggest one from here. Jayden Matthews 13:21, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

I also started to make 3-D versions of our main page headers like so

. But I couldn't finish them. They also require the header bars themselves to be a lighter color otherwise the fuzzy edges are visable. Jayden Matthews 13:26, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

The 3-D main page headers look spectacular! I really recommend using those (if you can finish them). As for the blue colour, I quite like the one depicted in the top-middle square of the title image on wikipedia. What do you think?--Yin & Yang^{Talk to me!} 14:37, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

It's a nice enough color, but I think it might clash with the rest of the scheme. We can always try it and see if it works. Also, I know it's late in the day to be doing this, but I've just started working on a second skin proposal. More out of boredom than actuall conviction. I just realised that the inconsiderate fimakers have changed the color scheme of Deathly Hallows to a dark navy blue gray theme. I'll see if I can come up with something that matches. It might be nice to have another option anyway. Jayden Matthews 17:28, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

This is really getting picky here but I'm not to keen on the d in featured article.--Miniwally^{(Owl me!)} 17:55, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

That's alright. I'm not to keen on it either. I'm using Gimp2 as my image editing program, and, it's not very advanced. Someone with photoshop may wish to have a go. Jayden Matthews 18:02, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

I might as well I've got nothing better ti di for the meanwhile :P --Miniwally^{(Owl me!)} 18:25, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Did you make the text style yourself or is it a downloaded one off of internet because I've only got a downloaded one and doubt I could make one myself and I think your text looks better. Also what colour are you using?--Miniwally^{(Owl me!)} 18:32, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

I made the text myself, and I used the basic cyan color on Gimp. I think I will have to reneage on my plan to make a Deathly Hallows themed skin. The one we are discussing now took me long enough, and I don't think I can face starting again from scratch. Jayden Matthews 19:36, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

I suggets just changing the d to one without a lightning bolt above --Miniwally^{(Owl me!)} 20:09, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Can I just make a suggestion? I think the page is a little monotone right now, although the colour is certainly bright. Maybe a darker colour for the headers would be better. QuidditchLover

^{(My talk)(contribs)}

Never mind my previous suggestion. I see Yin's already talked about it. QuidditchLover

^{(My talk)(contribs)} 05:36, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

I would have to say that I oppose this. Even though it is true green, the favorite shade of my favorite color, I hate an all-one color thing, and is is infact Aqua or Turqoise. Turbo Golf 21:48, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

That's fair enough. You're entitled to your opinion. It's been over a week now, and there has been mixed views on the matter. Shall we vote on it? We can deal with the small issues afterwards. Jayden Matthews 08:13, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

I have just come back and scanned though the comments. My opinion on the skin change is a defendant YES. I don't care if it was the sample above. It just needs to follow the theme of Harry Potter better that It is now. --Profiteor 23:14, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Vote to change the Wiki's skin

Okay, the discussion has been live for a while, so it is time for the formal vote.

Voting restrictions

Since this vote will impact the look of the entire wiki, I am tightening the voting eligibility to stop single issue voters, possible sock puppets, and newly registered users from deciding the look of the wiki. As such, voters will have to have made their first edit at least one month prior to the opening date of this vote, which by my calender is the 10th of December, 2009. This means any user whose first edit was after the 10th of November, 2009, is ineligible to vote.

Any user caught using sockpuppets registered before that date will also have their votes—their own and their sockpuppets—struck. There are ways of checking whether or not you are using sockpuppets, and I will be checking any vote considered to be suspicious.

As always, unregistered users will not be allowed to vote. All ineligible votes are to be stricken using <s> and </s>.

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In favour of changing the Wiki's skin

Also in favour of changing the logo. Jayden Matthews 09:59, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
Darth Jadious 14:29, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
Nick O'Demus 13:38, December 10, 2009 (UTC) - I have mixed feelings on the logo. On the one hand, I like the look of current logo. On the other hand, the OotP theme is a bit outdated.
GrouchMan (Send an owl then scram!!) 14:03, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
I like the skin, and I like both logos, but I'd say a new one fits the new skin better so I'm also in favour of changing the logo. Grunny ^(Talk) 14:41, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
The current skin is a bit dull. I think the new one looks pretty goood. Thumbs up for the new logo, as well. --Cubs Fan ^{(Talk to me)} 21:39, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
A definate yes from me. As for the logo...I understand the conveiniance of keeping the current logo, as identifies us across Wikia. On the other hand, the new logo does look better. I think for the sake of asthetics I'm going to have to go for the new logo. –K.A.J^{•T•C•E•} 22:36, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
For the skin.. YES! But for the logo.. I really don't mind either way. I get the advantage of keeping the old logo, but it would, most definitely, clash with the new skin. I'll leave that choice up to the other users. QuidditchLover ^{(My talk)(contribs)} 05:23, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
Yes to the new skin, and the new logo. Awesome. Jayce ^{•Avada Kedavra•Crucio•Imperio•} 14:02, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
I'm also for the new logo. -- Seth Cooper owl post! 17:43, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
Emylee94-I must say,I like the new skin better..But i kind of prefer the old logo because it kinds of represent d hp world..but yeah it kinds of clash with the new skin..maybe you can make one shade darker or something..but definitely new skin! 21:32, December 13,2009 (UTC)

Against changing the Wiki's skin

It is pretty dull, even though it is similar to the favorite shade of my favorite color, true green. I would also dislike a logo change. Turbo Golf 20:57, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
I'd like a change in design but the suggested is too bright/colourful and I don't like the logo. Patr0nus ^{( Expecto Patronum! )} 22:13, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
While I salute you for taking the initiative in creating a new skin and value the time and effort that you've undoubtly put into the project, I must say that I do find the color scheme to be dreadfully monotone. Almost painfully so. Regardless of the director's obvious love of all things teal I would suggest that the current scheme does not adequately capture the increasingly darker elements of the story that it's supposed to represent. Mr Norrell 06:38, December 13, 2009 (UTC) (Struck per policy)

Comments

I think that when people vote, they should also say whether or not they want the logo to change. Otherwise, we'll just have to vote again afterwards. Jayden Matthews 13:55, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Well, according to my watch, the vote is now closed. The clear consensus is to change the skin. The logo, on the other hand...five of the ten users who voted are in favour of changing it, two said they don't mind and the rest didn't comment. It's not really a consesnus, so, do we need to vote on the logo. Jayden Matthews 11:39, December 17, 2009 (UTC)