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I have noticed a very interesting inconsistency involving Harry's cloak. In GoF, Moody was able to

see right through it and identify Harry as the one under it. In DH, it is discovered that it is

the Cloak of Death, one of the Deathly Hallows.

"But Death searched for the third brother for many years, he was never able to find him. It was

only when he had attained a great age that the younger brother finally took off the Cloak of

Invisibility and gave it to his son. And then he greeted Death as an old friend, and went with

him gladly, and, as equals, they departed this life."

-J. K. Rowling The Tales of Beedle the Bard - Pages 92-93

My question is thus,why was Moody able to see through Harry when Death can't? My thought on this

is that either this is actually an error Rowling had mistakenly put in, or that Moody, being the

veteran auror he is, somehow found his eye somewhere, indicating that his eye could very well be

an artifact too, an extremely rare artifact.

Also, I did a little math to determine Harry's age in the epilogue and this is what I came up with:

1. 97 – 17

2. 98 – 18

3. 99 – 19

4. 00 – 20

5. 01 – 21

6. 02 – 22

7. 03 – 23

8. 04 – 24

9. 05 – 25

10. 06 – 26

11. 07 – 27

12. 08 – 28

13. 09 – 29

14. 10 – 30

15. 11 – 31

16. 12 – 32

17. 13 – 33

18. 14 – 34

19. 15 – 35

20. 16 – 36

21. 17 – 37

DH confirms that Harry turned 17 in that year, in 1997. I counted down to the year 2017 as the

year shown in this wikia. And then I counted the entries and I got "21 years later." I don't know

how you guys came up with the year 2017, but it should be year 2015. Here's the link as evidence:


It's true Harry turned 17 in 1997, but the book ends in 1998. Add nineteen years to that, and you get 2017. --Cubs Fan (Talk to me) 07:42, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, Cubs Fan is right. The year at the ending of the Deathly Hallows is 2017. Now to answer your question on Moody's magical eye able to see through the Cloak of Invisibility. First of all, Death is figurative not literal. Please don't make the mistake of believing that the Tale of the Three Brothers is accurate in the way it may seem to present Death as something like the Grim Reeper. As Dumbledore stated himself, it is more likely that the Hallows were created by the Peverell Brothers who just happened to be gifted wizards. Moody's magical eye can in fact see through the magic of even a Deathly Hallow. Although this may seem inconsistent with what we learn about Harry's cloak in the seventh book (casting true invisibility), Rowling's word is law. If Moody (or rather Barty Crouch Junior) could see Harry while he was under the cloak, then we can assume that the Magical Eye is extremely powerful. It is probably the only means of truly seeing someone under the Cloak of Invisibility. Now if you want a real plot hole, how's this. Why couldn't Crouch Junior slip Harry a portkey during their many encounters in 1994 and the beginning of 1995 instead of struggling to get him through the Triwizard Tournament? I suppose Dumbledore would have raised suspicions had Harry been reported to have gone missing after Moody invited him round for chat, but still, it would have been a little late by then and Voldemort would have regenerated months before the end of the task. Another possible theory is that the potion Voldemort used to regenerate needed time to prepare. Remember that in the Goblet of Fire, Harry notices that there is liquid already present in the man-sized cauldron before the three key ingredients are added (flesh, blood and bone).--Yin&Yang 09:10, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

For the Barty Crouch Jr. question above, not only did the potion need time to repare, but voldemort is foolish in some ways. He may have wanted to kill harry, to show him how powerful he is, at the moment of harry's greatest victory: winning the triwizard tournament. Personaly, I think this is foolish. He put it off, putting the plan at risk, for a greater triumph?