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I've gone ahead and created a draft version of the notability policy we need badly. Some of the criteria are arbitrary, such as the requirement that fan sites must be at least five years old to have a separate article, but the hope there was to allow for articles on major sites like MuggleNet while ruling out articles on minor ones.

If you have an idea for how the draft policy could be improved, feel free to suggest it. Then we can vote on the final version. Starstuff (Owl me!) 02:57, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

I read over it a little while ago, and on the whole, I think it looks quite good. The only thing that maybe gives me slight pause is the bit about anyone at all who worked on one of the Harry Potter productons can have an article. And then, sooner or later, someone starts posting up a whole bunch of articles for things like "third assistant technical director" of such-and-such Harry Potter video game. How about, for this part, they can have a page so long as they have an existing article on a site such as IMDb, or else have been quoted in a verifiable source?
P.S.: As for the arbitrary nature of the five-year rule, perhaps we could include some other qualifications as well, such as for example, if a site wasn't that old, but had more than a certain amount of regular traffic? ProfessorTofty 03:22, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
Good point about people involved in Harry Potter productions. But unfortunately, if someone is listed as "third assistant technical director" in the end credits of the PS3 version of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (video game), this would probably count as a "verifiable source."
With actors, everyone down to minor extras is currently treated as notable, and I don't necessarily think we have to change that practice, because actors appear as characters in the HP universe, and thus could be seen as more notable than minor production crew members working behind the scenes. I don't know what we could do to create a notability threshold for production staff. Perhaps people who played a major to moderate role in creating the films could have separate articles, while those who only played a minor role ("second assistant gaff boy") could be listed in a "hub" article like "List of production crew members for Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (film)."
Cover artists, editors, and translators of JKR's books would also be considered notable.
How would we go about determining the traffic of fan sites? Alexa rankings? Starstuff (Owl me!) 04:29, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
Alexa rankings are usually a good start. I'd also say sites that haven't been around for at least 5 years, but have received recognition might be worth an article. In this case, it would require demonstration of their notability. Things like receiving mentions in news stories (of reputable news organisations, not just random news sites), recognition from official sources such as JKR, etc. Just some thoughts :). Cheers, grunny@talk:~$ 04:47, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
Alexa rankings were what I was thinking. I don't really know of any other good way of determining site traffic. In any case, if a site that had been around less than five years is managing to pull similar (or, by some chance, even greater) traffic than some of the ones that have been around that long, then they would perhaps be notable. As far as production staff-- yeah, that would seem to be a good solution, though I'd be interested to hear if others don't agree... ProfessorTofty 17:32, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
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