Forum:Harry and Ginny's children = Half-bloods?

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Something in the current FA, Potter, struck me as odd. It is stated that Harry's three children are Half-bloods. But then on the Half-blood article page, it says that a Half-blood is a witch/wizard with at least one Muggle grandparent/parent. The thing is, James II, Albus and Lily Luna do have Muggles in their family, but they're their great-grandparents. Isn't this a bit contradictory? We need to change either the Half-blood article, or otherwise the Potter article (if we changed this one it would be to say that Harry and Ginny's kids are Pure-bloods). There is another problem to factor in too: the Pure-blood article says that Pure-bloods have no Muggles in their family at all. What should we do? --Margiechocoholic.

I think that pure-bloods are the ones that have no muggles or Muggle-borns as their grandparents. Therefore, Harry and Ginny's children are still half-bloods. ShirleyA 10:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it stretches that far back. I think that it is at least one Muggle grandparent, so they are at least one quarter Muggle. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 11:42, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Shirley A, but the flaw in what you said Toon Ganondorf is that all their grandparents are wizards/witches, Lily Evans is a Muggle-born, but she's still a witch. --Margiechocoholic.

That was actually my point. "They" was referring to Half-Bloods, not Harry's children. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 08:09, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Pure-bloods are those who claim to have absolutely no Muggles in their family trees. Harry and Ginny's children have known Muggle ancestors - Mr. and Mrs. Evans - as well as Muggle relatives in the Dursley family. This is a big difference from families like the House of Black, who can trace their magical heritage back to the Middle Ages, or the Malfoys, who have pure-blood ancestry at least as far back as the 17th century (when Brutus Malfoy lived), or the Macmillan family, who have nine consecutive generations of pure-blood as of the 1990s.

Futhermore, Rowling said this about blood purity:

"The expressions 'pure-blood', 'half-blood' and 'Muggle-born' have been coined by people to whom these distinctions matter, and express their originators' prejudices. As far as somebody like Lucius Malfoy is concerned, for instance, a Muggle-born is as 'bad' as a Muggle."

From this statement, it seems that those were are prejudiced against Muggles and Muggle-borns - i.e. those who made up the definitions of blood purity - consider having a Muggle-born ancestor to be as "bad" as having a Muggle one. They "pollute" the bloodline just as much. Hence, it doesn't matter that Lily Evans was a witch - her blood was still as "dirty" as a Muggle's (hence the term "Mudblood"). That shows how nonsensical and inherently prejudiced the whole conception of blood purity is - which makes sense, since Rowling has also compared the "warped logic" behind blood purity to that behind the Nazis' anti-Semitism.

Rowling has also made it clear that pure-bloods are rare (Sirius remarked in Order of the Phoenix that "there are hardly any of us left") and getting rarer, while half-bloods are the most common type of wizard or witch (in Chamber of Secrets, Ron says: "Most wizards these days are half-blood anyway. If we hadn’t married Muggles we’d’ve died out."). It seems that half-bloods would include anyone who has mixed magical and Muggle heritage. The half-blood article is a bit unclear on that, so I'll clean it up.

By the way, this discussion has come up before, and I gave a much more detailed and thorough explanation here. Oread ^(talk) 15:32, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. And I understand, it's just that that means we should now change the information on the Half-blood article page. Another thing that strikes me as strange, in the 2nd Harry Potter movie (but not in the book) Hagrid says: "There isn't a wizard alive today that's not Half-blood or less". This has to be a mistake. --Margiechocoholic.

Hagrid probably says that as he thinks that there are no true pure-bloods in existence. we could say that pure-bloods are those who do not know of any muggle relatives. This doesn't mean that they don't have any. ShirleyA 04:35, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Because of Lily Evans was a muggle-born James,Alubus and Lily Potter all half bloods because they have muggle

connections. --Hermione821

I used to wonder whether they were 3/4 blood because Ginny is pure blood and Harry is half blood 90.211.84.250 20:48, 27 April 2009 (UTC)