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Female voldemortreturn

(file in discussion)

I don't want to label her as a Death Eater as she, unlike the others in the scene is not wearing a Death Eater Mask or a Pointy Black Hood/hat. Also, Voldemort does not violently greet her for "disloyalty" instead he looks at end and she bows down to the floor at him.

She stands between Death Eaters Goyle and Lucius Malfoy, I believe she may be Narcissa Malfoy. She has blonde hair, is standing next to Lucius and Voldemort has no reason to attack her as she is not a Death Eater (Narcissa that is) which also shows why she isn't wearing a mask/hood.

Thoughts, opinions? Patr0nus 14:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Has to be a Death Eater, tho, if they were all summoned by the Dark Mark. If the novel explicitly states that they were all Death Eaters, then she is as well. Speculating on who she is isn't wise, however; labelling her as a character would be fanon on our part. - Cavalier OneGryffindorcrest(Wizarding Wireless Network) 15:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
she looks like alecto carrow --Bongo2009 Gryffindor Talk 15:06, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Narcissa possibly

Another image of her, she is visibly standing between Lucius (with the cane) and Goyle who is named. She has blonde hair, no mask and no hood.

Hmm, I still strongly believe it's Narcissa. She could have arrived with her husband Lucius, with who she is standing with. She doesn't wear a mask, she doesn't wear a hood and she isn't greeted by Voldemort or punished for not staying a loyal Death Eater. ALSO: Just because the book says that they were all Death Eaters does not mean the film does, the film is different from the book.

Patr0nus 15:12, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Book canon is higher than film canon, tho. If it says all are DEs, and Narcissa is not a DE, then it can't be Narcissa. - Cavalier OneGryffindorcrest(Wizarding Wireless Network) 15:14, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Yes I know that, but say if Hermione arrived in the film, simply because the books said it was Death Eaters she would be branded a Death Eater? That doesn't make sense. Like Bellatrix is in the HBP Astronomy Tower however in the book she isn't. But because the book says she isn't are we pretending she isn't in the film? Patr0nus 15:24, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

For now I'll create her a page, as she isn't identified and we can't really identify her as it'll be deemed "fanon" and she has a notable role in the film. Patr0nus 15:39, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I have a two names actor names of girl death eater's from GoF: Olivia Higginbottom and Ashley Artus

--Bongo2009 Gryffindor Talk 15:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Ashley Artus is a dude, so this Death Eater is played by Olivia Higginbottom. Bellatrix's participation in the battle of the astonmomy tower is canon because the book dosn't contradict it. Wheras Hermoine appearing in the Litle Hangleton graveyard would. Jayden Matthews 15:55, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I say i deserve a prefect badge for helping out finding the identity don't you? --Bongo2009 Gryffindor Talk 16:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Not really, no. It's probably not a good idea to go around asking people to give you a badge, as there more likely not to. Prefect Badges are given to very helpfull users, or those whose edits are very good quality. So far most of your edits have been reverted, so you may wish to work on that first. Jayden Matthews 16:07, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Patr0nus, your mentioning of Hermione's presence is invalid, since book canon - which is higher than film canon - states that she was conclusively not there. To quote the Canon policy: "Basically put, everything is canon unless specifically contradicted by a "higher" source." Your example falls under this category. As for the Bellatrix/Astronomy Tower thing - I admit its been a while since I read the books in-depth - unless she was specifically stated not to have been there, then her presence is not an issue. - Cavalier OneGryffindorcrest(Wizarding Wireless Network) 16:37, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm going to send a letter asking Olivia who she is. Once i know i'll put it on her page.67.175.97.122 22:04, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
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