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|title=Lady Potter (Possibly since the Potter Family is VERY rich)
 
 
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*[[Violetta Bulstrode]] (mother)
 
*[[Violetta Bulstrode]] (mother)
 
*[[Pollux Black]] (brother) †
 
*[[Pollux Black]] (brother) †
 
*[[Irma Crabbe]] (sister-in-law)
 
*[[Cassiopeia Black]] (sister) †
 
*[[Cassiopeia Black]] (sister) †
 
*[[Marius Black]] (brother)
 
*[[Marius Black]] (brother)
 
*[[Charlus Potter]] (husband) †
 
*[[Charlus Potter]] (husband) †
*[[James Potter I|James Potter]] (Son)
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*[[Charlus Potter's Son|Son]] (possibly [[James Potter I|James Potter]])
*[[Lily Potter]] (Daughter-in-law)
 
*[[Harry Potter]] (Grandson)
 
*[[Ginny Weasley]] (Granddaughter-in-law)
 
*[[James Potter II]] (Great grandson)
 
*[[Albus Potter]] (Great grandson)
 
*[[Lily Potter II]] (Great granddaughter)
 
 
*[[Phineas Nigellus Black]] (paternal grandfather) †
 
*[[Phineas Nigellus Black]] (paternal grandfather) †
 
*[[Ursula Flint]] (paternal grandmother)
 
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*[[Cygnus Black III]] (nephew) †
 
*[[Cygnus Black III]] (nephew) †
 
*[[Alphard Black]] (nephew) †
 
*[[Alphard Black]] (nephew) †
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|house=[[Slytherin]]ref name="slytherin"In Chapter 4 of ''Half-Blood Prince'', [[Horace Slughorn]] states: "The whole Black family had been in my house, but Sirius ended up in Gryffindor!" This implies that all Blacks except Sirius were Sorted into [[Slytherin]] while Slughorn was Head of House. Dorea, born in 1920, presumably attended Hogwarts c. 1931 or 1932 to 1938 or 1939, and thus would most likely have been a student of Slughorn, who was stated to have begun teaching at Hogwarts around the same time as [[Albus Dumbledore]] in Chapter 5 of ''Half-Blood Prince'', in [[1930s|1938]] or earlier.</ref>
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|house=[[Slytherin]]<ref name="slytherin">In Chapter 4 of ''[[Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince]]'', [[Horace Slughorn]] states: "The whole Black family had been in my house, but Sirius ended up in [[Gryffindor]]!" This implies that all Blacks except Sirius were Sorted into [[Slytherin]] while Slughorn was Head of House. Dorea, born in 1920, presumably attended Hogwarts c. [[1931]] or [[1932]] to [[1938]] or [[1939]], and thus would most likely have been a student of Slughorn, who was stated to have begun teaching at Hogwarts around the same time as [[Albus Dumbledore]] in Chapter 5 of ''[[Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince]]'', in [[1930s|1938]] or earlier.</ref>
 
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'''Dorea Potter (née Black)''' ([[1920s|1920]] - [[1977]]) was a [[pure-blood]] [[Wizards|witch]], the youngest child of [[Cygnus Black II]] and [[Violetta Bulstrode]] and sister of [[Pollux Black]], [[Cassiopeia Black]], and [[Marius Black]]. She married [[Charlus Potter]] and the together had [[Charlus Potter's son|one son]]. Dorea was also the aunt of [[Walburga Black]], thus the great-aunt of [[Sirius Black]] and [[Regulus Black]].<ref name="BFT">''[[House of Black|Black Family tree]]''</ref>
 
 
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'''Dorea Potter''' (née '''Black''') ([[1920s|1920]] - [[1977]]) was a [[Pure-blood]] [[Wizards|witch]], the youngest child of [[Cygnus Black II]] and [[Violetta Bulstrode]] and sister of [[Pollux Black]], [[Cassiopeia Black]], and [[Marius Black]]. She married [[Charlus Potter]] and they together had [[Charlus Potter's son|one son]]. Dorea was the aunt of Alphard, Cygnus and [[Walburga Black]], thus she is the great-aunt of [[Sirius Black]] and [[Regulus Black]], as well as [[Bellatrix Lestrange]], [[Andromeda Tonks]] and [[Narcissa Malfoy]].<ref name="BFT">''[[House of Black|Black Family tree]]''</ref> As well as this, Dorea is the great-great aunt of [[Draco Malfoy]] and [[Nymphadora Tonks]] and the great-great-great aunt of [[Scorpius Malfoy]] and Teddy Lupin. Dorea and her husband [[Charlus Potter]] are possibly the grandparents of [[Harry Potter]] since they had one son which would be, most likely, [[James Potter I|James Potter]] (Harry's father), since unlike in the Muggle world where two people with the same surname can be totally unrelated, wizards with the same names are usually related in some way or another, given the small number of wizarding bloodlines. 
   
 
==Etymology==
 
==Etymology==
The name ''Dorea'' may come from the names ''[[Wikipedia:Dora|Dora]]'' ("gift") or ''[[Wikipedia:Dorothy (given name)|Dorothy]]'', which mean "gift of God" in Greek, or from [[Wikipedia:Dory|dory]], a type of small boat. Name "Dora" appears before Dorea: her great-aunt was named [[Elladora Black|Elladora]] and her cousin was named [[Callidora Longbottom|Callidora]].
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The name ''Dorea'' may come from the names ''[[Wikipedia:Dora|Dora]]'' ("gift") or ''[[Wikipedia:Dorothy (given name)|Dorothy]]'', which mean "to see a gift" in Greek (as opposed to "Theodora" which means "a gift from god" in Greek), or from [[Wikipedia:Dory|dory]], a type of small boat. The name "Dora" appears before Dorea: her great-aunt was named [[Elladora Black|Elladora]] and her cousin was named [[Callidora Longbottom|Callidora]].
   
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''Dorea ''can come from Irish ''Doireann'', which means "sullen" or "daughter of Fionn". ''Fionn'' means "fair,white." "Sullen" and "fair,white" can relate to many of the Black family's traits.
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Black can be considered a colour, and is the result of the absence of, or complete absorption of, light. In Western culture, the colour black has typically been associated with evil, darkness, and witchcraft, but also with prestige and sophistication — appropriate for the House of Black. Black has also been associated with life and prosperity by other cultures. In ancient China, black was the symbol of the element of water, which also corresponds to Slytherin, the Hogwarts house of almost all members of the Black family. In English heraldry, black represents darkness and ignorance; a possible allusion to the prejudice common to members of the House of Black.
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However, the English word ''black'' is derived from either the Old English ''blœc'', meaning "black", or ''blac'', meaning "pale".<sup>[8]</sup>Pallor is associated with sickness and the colour white, which is usually held to symbolize purity in Western and Indian culture, and death in East Asian cultures. This mirrors the typical colouring of members of the House of Black — dark hair and pale skin.
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Dorea's married surname is Potter. Potter is a very common surname of English origin.<sup>[25]</sup> It traditionally refers to the occupation of making pottery. Beatrix Potter was a well-known English children's author. Potter's Field is the name for a burial ground for the unknown or unclaimed dead, particularly soldiers and orphans; It is first mentioned in the Gospel of Matthew, the Potter family had many members that fit that description. The Potter Box is a model for making ethical decisions developed at Harvard University. J. K. Rowling has also commented that she has liked this name since childhood, due to a relationship with two friends who were named Ian and Vikki Potter
 
==Behind the scenes==
 
==Behind the scenes==
*There is some speculation that Dorea Potter was [[James Potter's mother|the mother]] of [[James Potter I|James Potter]] and the paternal grandmother of [[Harry Potter]], given that [[J. K. Rowling]] has said that James's parents were older when they had him<ref>[http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2007/7/30/j-k-rowling-web-chat-transcript Leaky Cauldron: 30 July 2007 Webchat with J.K. Rowling]</ref>, and Dorea would have been forty years old when he was born<ref name="BFT" />. However, Rowling also said that James's parents died of natural causes when they were elderly, presumably around the same time<ref>[http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2005/0705-tlc_mugglenet-anelli-3.htm 16 July 2005 Leaky Cauldron and MuggleNet Interview]</ref>. Dorea died at the age of fifty-seven<ref name="BFT" />, which is not elderly in wizarding terms. This may be a mathematical error, as Rowling has also admitted that maths is not her strong suit<ref>[http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/faq_view.cfm?id=63 F.A.Q.] at [[J.K.Rowling Official Site|J.K. Rowling's Official Site]]</ref> and [[Dating conventions#contradictions|inconsistencies]] have been noted in the timeline.
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*There is some speculation that Dorea Potter was [[James Potter's mother|the mother]] of [[James Potter I|James Potter]] and the paternal grandmother of [[Harry Potter]], given that [[J. K. Rowling]] has said that James's parents were older when they had him<ref>[http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2007/7/30/j-k-rowling-web-chat-transcript Leaky Cauldron: 30 July 2007 Webchat with J.K. Rowling]</ref>, and Dorea would have been forty years old when he was born<ref name="BFT" />. However, Rowling also said that James's parents died of natural causes when they were elderly, presumably around the same time<ref>[http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2005/0705-tlc_mugglenet-anelli-3.htm 16 July 2005 Leaky Cauldron and MuggleNet Interview]</ref>. Dorea died at the age of fifty-seven<ref name="BFT" />, which is not elderly in wizarding or Muggle terms. This may be a mathematical error, as Rowling has also admitted that maths is not her strong suit<ref>[http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/faq_view.cfm?id=63 F.A.Q.] at [[J.K.Rowling Official Site|J.K. Rowling's Official Site]]</ref> and [[Dating conventions#contradictions|inconsistencies]] have been noted in the timeline.
 
*Also, if Dorea was James' mother, James would be the first cousin of [[Cygnus Black III]] and [[Walburga Black]] (who are about a generation older than James) and first cousin once removed of Cygnus' daughters ([[Narcissa Malfoy|Narcissa]], [[Bellatrix Lestrange|Bellatrix]] and [[Andromeda Tonks|Andromeda]]) and Walburga's sons [[Regulus Black|Regulus]] and [[Sirius Black]] who attended [[Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry|Hogwarts]] around the same time as James.
 
*Also, if Dorea was James' mother, James would be the first cousin of [[Cygnus Black III]] and [[Walburga Black]] (who are about a generation older than James) and first cousin once removed of Cygnus' daughters ([[Narcissa Malfoy|Narcissa]], [[Bellatrix Lestrange|Bellatrix]] and [[Andromeda Tonks|Andromeda]]) and Walburga's sons [[Regulus Black|Regulus]] and [[Sirius Black]] who attended [[Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry|Hogwarts]] around the same time as James.
 
*Another possibly is that Dorea was an aunt (via marriage) or a distant cousin-in-law to James. If so, then this leaves us with the mystery of what happened to [[Charlus Potter's son|the son of Charlus and Dorea]]. Since Harry was not supposed to have any living family other than the [[Dursley family]], we could assume that Charlus, Dorea, and their son must have died before 1981.
 
*Another possibly is that Dorea was an aunt (via marriage) or a distant cousin-in-law to James. If so, then this leaves us with the mystery of what happened to [[Charlus Potter's son|the son of Charlus and Dorea]]. Since Harry was not supposed to have any living family other than the [[Dursley family]], we could assume that Charlus, Dorea, and their son must have died before 1981.
 
*However, it is also unlikely that Dorea is [[James Potter's mother]] as James's parents took Sirius Black into their home after he ran away from his family. As [[Alphard Black]] (Sirius' uncle and also Dorea's nephew) was disowned for simply giving Sirius "a decent amount of gold" when he ran away, it's likely that Dorea would also have been disowned for allowing Sirus to live with them.
 
*However, it is also unlikely that Dorea is [[James Potter's mother]] as James's parents took Sirius Black into their home after he ran away from his family. As [[Alphard Black]] (Sirius' uncle and also Dorea's nephew) was disowned for simply giving Sirius "a decent amount of gold" when he ran away, it's likely that Dorea would also have been disowned for allowing Sirus to live with them.
*Also, if Dorea and Charlus were the mother and father of James, surely he would have been disowned for marrying [[Muggle-born|muggle-born]] [[Lily Evans]], however from what we have heard of the Potter family, they were not averse to mixing pure and muggle blood unlike the Blacks, and Dorea, a Slytherin, married Charlus, a Gryffindor, so mixing between houses also wasn't an issue for Dorea.
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*Also, if Dorea and Charlus were the parents of James, surely he would have been disowned for marrying [[Muggle-born|muggle-born]] [[Lily Evans]], however from what we have heard of the Potter family, they were not averse to mixing pure and [[Muggle]] blood unlike the Blacks, and Dorea, a [[Slytherin]], married Charlus, a [[Gryffindor]], so mixing between members of Hogwarts houses also wasn't an issue for Dorea.
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*It was also stated that Lily and James had a "quick marriage" and, if it was after Dorea's death, then none of the Black family, apart from Sirius, would have known about it. Then, after this, Lily and James had about a year of marriage, until, around October 31 [[1979]], Harry was conceived and they went into hiding for their own safety, thus keeping them from the world and keeping their marriage a secret.
*The two points above are rendered moot, by this point: Dorea, at her marriage to Charlus, was a Potter by name, not a Black, and thus, if she DID take in Sirius, she wouldn't be disowned, as she was a Potter by name, not a Black, and the Potter's had no problems with taking in Sirius.
 
   
 
==Appearances==
 
==Appearances==
 
*''[[Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (film)]]'' {{Comment|Appears on Black family tapestry}}
 
*''[[Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (film)]]'' {{Comment|Appears on Black family tapestry}}
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*''[[Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (video game)]]'' {{Comment|Seen on [[House of Black|Black family]] tree tapestry}}
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*''[[Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1 (video game)]]'' {{Comment|Seen on [[House of Black|Black family]] tree tapestry}}
   
 
==Notes and references==
 
==Notes and references==
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Revision as of 00:55, 11 October 2014

Dorea Potter (née Black) (1920 - 1977) was a Pure-blood witch, the youngest child of Cygnus Black II and Violetta Bulstrode and sister of Pollux Black, Cassiopeia Black, and Marius Black. She married Charlus Potter and they together had one son. Dorea was the aunt of Alphard, Cygnus and Walburga Black, thus she is the great-aunt of Sirius Black and Regulus Black, as well as Bellatrix Lestrange, Andromeda Tonks and Narcissa Malfoy.[2] As well as this, Dorea is the great-great aunt of Draco Malfoy and Nymphadora Tonks and the great-great-great aunt of Scorpius Malfoy and Teddy Lupin. Dorea and her husband Charlus Potter are possibly the grandparents of Harry Potter since they had one son which would be, most likely, James Potter (Harry's father), since unlike in the Muggle world where two people with the same surname can be totally unrelated, wizards with the same names are usually related in some way or another, given the small number of wizarding bloodlines. 

Etymology

The name Dorea may come from the names Dora ("gift") or Dorothy, which mean "to see a gift" in Greek (as opposed to "Theodora" which means "a gift from god" in Greek), or from dory, a type of small boat. The name "Dora" appears before Dorea: her great-aunt was named Elladora and her cousin was named Callidora.

Dorea can come from Irish Doireann, which means "sullen" or "daughter of Fionn". Fionn means "fair,white." "Sullen" and "fair,white" can relate to many of the Black family's traits.

Black can be considered a colour, and is the result of the absence of, or complete absorption of, light. In Western culture, the colour black has typically been associated with evil, darkness, and witchcraft, but also with prestige and sophistication — appropriate for the House of Black. Black has also been associated with life and prosperity by other cultures. In ancient China, black was the symbol of the element of water, which also corresponds to Slytherin, the Hogwarts house of almost all members of the Black family. In English heraldry, black represents darkness and ignorance; a possible allusion to the prejudice common to members of the House of Black.

However, the English word black is derived from either the Old English blœc, meaning "black", or blac, meaning "pale".[8]Pallor is associated with sickness and the colour white, which is usually held to symbolize purity in Western and Indian culture, and death in East Asian cultures. This mirrors the typical colouring of members of the House of Black — dark hair and pale skin.

Dorea's married surname is Potter. Potter is a very common surname of English origin.[25] It traditionally refers to the occupation of making pottery. Beatrix Potter was a well-known English children's author. Potter's Field is the name for a burial ground for the unknown or unclaimed dead, particularly soldiers and orphans; It is first mentioned in the Gospel of Matthew, the Potter family had many members that fit that description. The Potter Box is a model for making ethical decisions developed at Harvard University. J. K. Rowling has also commented that she has liked this name since childhood, due to a relationship with two friends who were named Ian and Vikki Potter

Behind the scenes

  • There is some speculation that Dorea Potter was the mother of James Potter and the paternal grandmother of Harry Potter, given that J. K. Rowling has said that James's parents were older when they had him[3], and Dorea would have been forty years old when he was born[2]. However, Rowling also said that James's parents died of natural causes when they were elderly, presumably around the same time[4]. Dorea died at the age of fifty-seven[2], which is not elderly in wizarding or Muggle terms. This may be a mathematical error, as Rowling has also admitted that maths is not her strong suit[5] and inconsistencies have been noted in the timeline.
  • Also, if Dorea was James' mother, James would be the first cousin of Cygnus Black III and Walburga Black (who are about a generation older than James) and first cousin once removed of Cygnus' daughters (Narcissa, Bellatrix and Andromeda) and Walburga's sons Regulus and Sirius Black who attended Hogwarts around the same time as James.
  • Another possibly is that Dorea was an aunt (via marriage) or a distant cousin-in-law to James. If so, then this leaves us with the mystery of what happened to the son of Charlus and Dorea. Since Harry was not supposed to have any living family other than the Dursley family, we could assume that Charlus, Dorea, and their son must have died before 1981.
  • However, it is also unlikely that Dorea is James Potter's mother as James's parents took Sirius Black into their home after he ran away from his family. As Alphard Black (Sirius' uncle and also Dorea's nephew) was disowned for simply giving Sirius "a decent amount of gold" when he ran away, it's likely that Dorea would also have been disowned for allowing Sirus to live with them.
  • Also, if Dorea and Charlus were the parents of James, surely he would have been disowned for marrying muggle-born Lily Evans, however from what we have heard of the Potter family, they were not averse to mixing pure and Muggle blood unlike the Blacks, and Dorea, a Slytherin, married Charlus, a Gryffindor, so mixing between members of Hogwarts houses also wasn't an issue for Dorea.
  • It was also stated that Lily and James had a "quick marriage" and, if it was after Dorea's death, then none of the Black family, apart from Sirius, would have known about it. Then, after this, Lily and James had about a year of marriage, until, around October 31 1979, Harry was conceived and they went into hiding for their own safety, thus keeping them from the world and keeping their marriage a secret.

Appearances

Notes and references

  1. In Chapter 4 of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Horace Slughorn states: "The whole Black family had been in my house, but Sirius ended up in Gryffindor!" This implies that all Blacks except Sirius were Sorted into Slytherin while Slughorn was Head of House. Dorea, born in 1920, presumably attended Hogwarts c. 1931 or 1932 to 1938 or 1939, and thus would most likely have been a student of Slughorn, who was stated to have begun teaching at Hogwarts around the same time as Albus Dumbledore in Chapter 5 of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, in 1938 or earlier.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 Black Family tree
  3. Leaky Cauldron: 30 July 2007 Webchat with J.K. Rowling
  4. 16 July 2005 Leaky Cauldron and MuggleNet Interview
  5. F.A.Q. at J.K. Rowling's Official Site