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== The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy ==
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Billy and Mandy really has nothing to do with Harry Potter. Out of 172 episodes, 4 contain references to Harry Potter, and even then the characters are parodies of Harry Potter characters rather than the literal characters. Harry Potter is a major part of pop culture, and has been referenced by countless TV shows. If we include Billy and Mandy then we also have to include American Dad, since Steve went to Hogwarts(sort of); Doctor Who, since Shakespeare used [[Expelliarmus]] to stop some [[witch]]es; the Simpsons since their Angelica Button series is an obvious parody of Harry Potter, the characters read the Harry Potter series occasssionally, they once met JK Rowling, and one of their Halloween episodes was a spoof of Harry Potter; and pretty much every children's show made in the last ten years. Maybe it would make sense to have a page titled [[Shows that have Parodied Harry Potter]], or something like that, but we shouldn't just make a page for every show that includes Harry Potter references.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 23:34, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

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Current discussions

Studying girls

Studying girls has been a candidate for deletion for over a month. Any input on whether it should be deleted or not? --Texthawm (Owl Me) 23:16, February 14, 2011 (UTC)


I think it should be deleted. There is no specification of who these girls are so its not important enough to keep.

Ginny101 00:34, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, it doesn't seem relevant enough for its own article, not to mention the fact, that it's just a group of girls looking at some books, to me, they could be looking at anything, not necesarily even studying.

 BachLynn23  Send me an Owl!  The worst failure, is the failure to try.  19:27,1/25/2012 

Dobby's shoes

An absolutely bizarre and pointless article. All it says is that Dobby owned a pair of shoes after being freed by the Malfoy's. If this stays, then we'll be seeing articles like "Ron's wellington boots" and "Hermione's spare Hogwarts robes" appearing soon. 82.42.249.145 17:03, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I disagree, I think articles should be made for clothing only if it's useful and the clothing is memorable in the film. By useful, I mean it explained to some who may not know about the difference they saw in Dobby's atire in Part 1. And if they look at Dobby's clothes, it's linked in case they want to know more about it. *LunaHallows(I suspect Nargles are behind it...) 18:02, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

No other character has an article for a non-significant piece of their clothing. Keeping this article would be like having one for Ron Weasley's robes or Hermione's coat. I agree that it is fairly pointless.--Matoro183 (Talk) 20:10, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
Luna, you say it is linked in case they want to know more about it. That would be fair enough, but the article doesn't give any more information about it. It just says he owned a pair of shoes. That's it. 82.42.249.145 19:52, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
It is major step owning clothes though for Dobby as it shows he is free. I think this page should be kept.Happydementor 16:18, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
It would seem, in any case, that the decision was keep. The article doesn't have a delete tag on it anymore and hasn't in months. ProfessorTofty 01:21, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Christian Simpson as Old Fred Weasley

I don't know if this source is good enough. It's your decision. source: http://scificonventionsigners.weebly.com/christian-j-simpson.html Harry granger 18:34, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

Training grounds way to Quidditch Pitch.

This entrance is NOT the Trainings Grounds Tower like you said. This is the Trainings Grounds tower:

Training Grounds Tower - hp4

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—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lestrange97 (talkcontribs).Lestrange97 16:18, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Still looks a lot like the same building, or a slightly different design of it to me. The Training Grounds Way image looks to be from one of the games and there are lots of differences between building designs in the games and movies. Shorty1982 15:40, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
Oh came on, Training Grounds Tower is so so much bigger than the other, look to the photo of Aerial Viez of the Greenhouses, and you will see where is the building I say.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lestrange97 (talkcontribs).Lestrange97 16:18, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
From what I can see they are at least extremely similar, if not the same. The community will make the final decision. Please always sign talk page entries with 4 tildes (~). -Shorty1982 16:06, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
And, Thank you by your opinion Lestrange97 16:18, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Charity Burbage's wand. I think it should be deleted because it is a fanon. No one knows what her wand is, it never mentions it. Why should he have a page for something he doesnt know exists when fanons are being deleted?

AmbroseLestrange502 02:24, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Unidentified female snatcher at the Battle of Hogwarts

What I can not understand, is why there are pages like Unidentified 1996 quidditch spectator students, that don't have any images, and this page, that also, this woman is the only know female Snatcher, can not be in the wiki. Lestrange97 20:22, October 26, 2011 (UTC)


But I do not understand why there may be other pages that do not even have a photo and is not already a party, is one of the few women that are Snatcher.
The article you mentioned is also a candidate for deletion. The fact that this Snatcher is a woman in no way justifies having an article about her. There were hundreads of Snatchers at the Battle of Hogwarts, many of them female. Unless you propose having articles on each and every one of them your argument is somewhat feeble. Jayden Matthews 20:30, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Unidentified Hogwarts student who fought against a Death Eater with a golden spell

I think that this page is quite interesting, as a Priori Incantatem may have occured, and this is quite rare. --

Octopus Tom Marvolo Octopus

16:29, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

This should stay, as there is a picture and he is duelling a Death Eater. He appeared, making him notable.

This should not be deleted it is asimple fun page for anyone to look and have fun.

MissHowelly 17:46, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Defence Against the Dark Arts teachers

Underwear

List of D.A.D.A. teachers

THE DEATHLY HALLOW ROLE PLAY GAME

Bean Bonus Room

Jessica Arantes

Jessica Arantes was just created and is up as a candidate. This may not be a J. K. Rowling Wiki, but she does have everything to do with Harry Potter. Therefore, her family has something to do with it. There are some pretty unrelated articles on here, much more unrelated then J. K. Rowling's own daughter! -- A Wikia contributer 15:18, December 15, 2011 (PST)

But how exactly? And that is exactly the point - we are a Harry Potter wiki and if we're going to have an article, the it needs to be shown that there actually is a connection to Harry Potter. All the page is really says is "this is her daughter and this is her biographical information." If we were to keep the article, then where exactly does it end? Do we start having articles about her other children? About her husbands? ProfessorTofty 23:26, December 15, 2011 (UTC)
I agree with ProfessorTofty. Just because she is related to J. K. Rowling doesn't mean we should have an article about her. People come to this wiki to find information about Harry Potter and related things, not Rowling's family. AFAIK she has zero connection to the Harry Potter universe other than being related to its creator. -Shorty1982 23:30, December 15, 2011 (UTC)
In addition to the above (which I agree with), see Forum:Articles on JKR's Family for an discussion on this subject a couple years back in the Wizengamot Archive. -- 1337star (Owl Post) 00:57, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure Jessica Arantes is covered on this, but would an article on her be valid if she was one of the people JKR dedicated one of the HP books? Do the wiki have articles on people the books are dedicated to? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:59, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

She's one of the people that the dedication in Deathly Hallows is "split seven ways" to. Book dedications is mentioned in the forum thread that was linked to as being "not totally ridiculous," but I still think it doesn't really add much value to thewi. As was said, anything like that can be mentioned in the behind the scenes sections; it doesn't merit an article in and of itself. ProfessorTofty 05:01, December 18, 2011 (UTC)
I'm moving this to the bottom because it was originally posted at the top of the page and I think it might have gotten lost in the shuffle because of that. It seems to be generally agreed based on past practises that we do not have articles about Jo's family members - in fact, I seem to recall an article being deleted in the not-to-recent past for similar reasons. ProfessorTofty 01:56, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Beech tree on the edge of the Black Lake

Unidentified male bald Death Eater

  • Keep. This character is acted and occurs twice and has a significant part in the action. Anthony Appleyard 10:17, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
  • Yes, keep. If the reasoning applied onto this page was applied to every single page, then there would be none of these random pages about minor characters. AlastorMoody 00:50, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
As I understand it, the page was only marked for deletion in the first place because teharticle was very poorly formed when it was created. As it stands now, it's no more or less bad than any of the other umpteen articles about unidentified characters. ProfessorTofty 19:10, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Weasley family mark

Pheasant

Sri Lanka

Fall Down of the North Tower

Potter Noyz

Supreme Cores

I'm not sure if we should delete this article or not. The fact that it is capitalised in the source (see it here) makes it a canon, wandlore-specific term. Either we keep it or we delete it and just mention it on the wand core page, it's fine by me either way. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 19:08, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

I think just a simple disambig page would be fine. Something to the effect of "Garrick Ollivander believed in the concept of three Supreme Cores that were superior to all other wand cores. These cores were:" and then listing the three. But I don't know. The same logic technically applies to the Deathly Hallows: there's not much to say about them together that can't be said about the three separately, but we have a detailed article there that is separate of the three. But I suppose one could argue that's not quite the same concept. -- 1337star (Owl Post) 19:18, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
One could argue that "Deathly Hallows" covers a much more complex and relevant part of the series, but then again, we have articles like on families that present no information that it is not already present on the family members' pages (and are not, after all, that important to the books/films/games as a whole). I'm more inclined to keep this article, though. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 19:37, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I'd agree, if we have articles like "Deathly Hallows" that just summarise information that is already mentioned elsewhere, then I don't see any reason not to keep this. ProfessorTofty 22:47, February 21, 2012 (UTC)
Well, if we have articles like "Unforgivable Curses" and no one objects to them, we should keep this one. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 22:54, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Hemani Roshan Wand

Anti Dark Mark Spell

An Anti Dark Mark Spell? I was under the impression that the characters were raising their wands as a tribute to Dumbledore. True, the Dark Mark did part, but I was under thte impression this was more for the purposes of the story than because of any sort of implied spell. There was no jet of light or anything else to indicate the casting of a spell, nor is it normally indicated that a spell would be cast by a large group of people. I suppose there could be a spell, but I don't know that we can imply something that doesn't necessarily exist. ProfessorTofty 05:01, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

To be fair, we do have spells that have no visible jet of light (in the books, anyway) and instances of spells being cast by multiple people to combat large targets. That said, I'm on the fence about this one. I'm weakly for deletion unless someone can provide a source from the directors/cast saying this was intended as a spell, or someone gives more compelling evidence for it being one. -- 1337star (Owl Post) 05:36, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, that's a good point about the Hover Charm and the Stunning spells. Still, like you, I'm having trouble seeing this as an actual spell. Even if a spell was cast, who's to say that the spell necessarily combats the Dark Mark specifically? After all, the books indicate that the Dark Mark had not been seen since the Death Eaters went into hiding, so how likely is it that more than a few of the people there would know a spell that would be specifically used to repel the Dark Mark? ProfessorTofty 06:16, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
Just rewatched this part on ABC Family, and I immediately move to keep. McGonagall is the first to raise her wand, and a small pinprick of light appears on the tip. Pan up to the Dark Mark, and a similar pinprick appears in the center of it, which only widens as the others raise their wands. Obviously a spell. -- 1337star (Owl Post) 07:49, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
Good observation. Alright, I'll withdraw the deletion and do a bit of fixing up on the article. I've also made "Dark Mark anti-curse" into a redirect - which was just created yesterday and a I realised was what brought my attention to the page in the first place. ProfessorTofty 14:16, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Irma Pince Photo?

All of the Unidentified 1996 Quidditch Spector Students.

I think all the following pages: Unidentified 1996 Quidditch practice spectator student, Unidentified 1996 Quidditch practice spectator student (II), Unidentified 1996 Quidditch practice spectator student (III), Unidentified 1996 Quidditch practice spectator student (IV), Unidentified 1996 Quidditch practice spectator student (V), Unidentified 1996 Quidditch practice spectator student (VI), and Unidentified 1996 Quidditch practice spectator student (VII) should be deleted. They bear no information, or photos because they were background characters. They're just seem kind of cluttery and unessicary. Shadow Seer 03:28, February 25, 2012 (UTC)Shadow Seer

Yeah, we've been having something of a proliferation of articles regarding subjects that are of dubious interest at best. If this sort of thing concerns you, I recommend you visit this here. It's a discussion about a proposed policy for notability and I think it's about time for a final vote. You may want to read over what's been proposed, though I'm not sure if you qualify yet to vote on something like that under our guidelines, because you're still relatively new. As for the articles in question here, though, yeah, I completely agree. I wouldn't shed a single tear if they were 86'ed with all possible haste. ProfessorTofty 04:13, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Harry Potter Goes To Therapy - Please don't delete this page!

Dracorex Hogwartsia

This is an interesting part of the Harry Potter fandom, with JKR being honored and having talked about it. No other book or fandom has a dinosaur named after it. Just because it is not part of the books does not mean it has nothing to do with Harry Potter. It is a honor to her and to us. There is no valid reason to delete it. Sev Lover Forever 04:03, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

I actually nominated this for deletion for the purpose of discussion, so we can set a precedent for any similar cases in the future. I'm actually genuinely interested in whether the community thinks this sort of thing is worth an article or not. I'm currently leaning towards delete, but with a mention on the BTS section of the Hogwarts article, but I'd love to see other opinions. -- 1337star (Owl Post) 05:24, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
I think it should have it's own page because its so unique. I don't think there is anything else in the fandom like it, and I don't know another fandom who has a dinosaur. I don't think it would work in the BTS section because it doesn't have to do with Hogwarts the building/school, to me Hogwartsia is symbolic for JKR's entire world. I mean, Twilight and the Hunger Games are also big, but things like this is what makes Harry Potter stand out as something special, something that will go down in history. Sev Lover Forever 16:04, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

LEGO Harry Potter: The Original Years

Apparently there is such a game known as LEGO Harry Potter: The Original Years. For more information on it, go to the LEGO Harry Potter Wiki - http://legoharrypotteryears1-4videogame.wikia.com/wiki/LEGO_Harry_Potter:_The_Original_Years And, to be clear, I am NOT the person who added the page. I am merely disagreeing with its deletion. AlastorMoody 03:33, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

This is also the only place that indicates such a thing, and wikis are not reliable sources. No reputable site I can find has said anything about such a game's existence. -- 1337star (Owl Post) 03:51, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
My apologies. AlastorMoody 17:55, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

MoreBrown901

  • It is Polish language. It says "type websites, where content can be created and changed easily and quickly, from a web browser, using a simple markup language or a WYSIWYG editor. Wikis, because of its specificity, are primarily used to work on joint projects, such as repositories of knowledge on a topic or projects of various social groups.
    Wiki name comes from the Hawaiian phrase wiki wiki, meaning fast. The author of the concept and the concept is Ward Cunningham, who in 1994 for the Portland Pattern Repository wrote the software WikiWikiWeb.". Anthony Appleyard 15:35, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Dora Dobrican

Not canon

The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy

Billy and Mandy really has nothing to do with Harry Potter. Out of 172 episodes, 4 contain references to Harry Potter, and even then the characters are parodies of Harry Potter characters rather than the literal characters. Harry Potter is a major part of pop culture, and has been referenced by countless TV shows. If we include Billy and Mandy then we also have to include American Dad, since Steve went to Hogwarts(sort of); Doctor Who, since Shakespeare used Expelliarmus to stop some witches; the Simpsons since their Angelica Button series is an obvious parody of Harry Potter, the characters read the Harry Potter series occasssionally, they once met JK Rowling, and one of their Halloween episodes was a spoof of Harry Potter; and pretty much every children's show made in the last ten years. Maybe it would make sense to have a page titled Shows that have Parodied Harry Potter, or something like that, but we shouldn't just make a page for every show that includes Harry Potter references.Icecreamdif 23:34, April 3, 2012 (UTC)