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Curious Raven

Ilvermorny Shack

Given the previous examples discussed for other schools at Talk:Ilvermorny_shack, I feel this should remain a separate article. --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:51, May 22, 2016 (UTC)

Ilvermorny Shack Removal

Why the Ilvermorny "Shack" should not be removed.

I disagree with this deletion as a new image and description behind the "shack" currently exists. I do not believe this article is redundant and am sure will serve a great informative purpose to the Wiki.King Jaime E (talk) 17:09, June 28, 2016 (UTC) 

Uhm... Your Mjesty? (Sorry, couldn't help myself. xD) we shouldn't just, like, make a page for Ilvermorny Castle and have the shack info pop up in the 'history' section? Ninclow (talk) 23:52, July 1, 2016 (UTC)

Large Unidentified Spellbook

This page must be deleted as the page Gilded-covered spellbook covers the same book, and existed prior to its creation.

Thanks -   ArrestoMomentum | talk  07:06, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

List of Harry Potter characters (in the order that they are mentioned)

The differences between British and North American wizards

BF Mulvey

Special Event Hat

Have Luna's custom hats ever been referred to by this name anywhere in canon? If not, the term seems to be a fan invention, and it's an unnecessary article that just repeats information from the articles on her individual hats. Starstuff (Owl me!) 02:34, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

They were referred to on Pottermore, on Rita Skeeter's coverage of the 2014 Quidditch World Cup final: "While Lovegood and Scamander appear to be holding hands in the VIP box, this might well be because Rolf is trying to prevent his wife from putting on one of her famous Special Event Hats." --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 23:09, October 30, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing out the source! The article should cite that for the name, then, so it doesn't look like something made-up. Starstuff (Owl me!) 22:13, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

File:Hippogryph egg.png

  • Deletion was requested by Ironyak1 for spelling error / mistype. But can't the page be moved? In Wikipedia moving/renaming an image file is easy. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:34, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Dickinson's Pure Fancy Sweet Orange Marmalade Jelly and Dickinson

Things that appear at the Wizarding World theme parks are canon, but this, IMHO, is stretching it. The brand of jam/jelly served with meals at the park's version of the Three Broomsticks is mostly incidental. They could very well replace it with Smucker's if Dickinson's became unavailable or prohibitively expensive. It's not like the menu items or the candies at Honeydukes, which are more stayed, and thus more a part of the park's in-universey experience. Starstuff (Owl me!) 03:04, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

I agree. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 03:10, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

Template:MACUSA employes

Why shall this be deleted? I don't understand it.  Harry granger   Talk   contribs 22:10, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

I merged this info into a single "MACUSA" navbox template so it's redundant and no longer maintained. I figure it's best just to delete it out so it's not mistakenly used. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 22:17, December 17, 2016 (UTC)
The same meaning for Template:Presidents of the MACUSA?  Harry granger   Talk   contribs 22:34, December 17, 2016 (UTC)
Yep, same reason for that one. --Ironyak1 (talk) 23:29, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

Thomas Sailer

I disagree with the deletion of the page about Thomas Sailer. I have updated this article a while ago and just noticed that it is up for deletion now. So I will explain why I took the time to update this existing article.

Thomas did much more than "making several HP fansites" Founding the Knight Bus in 2007, which admittedly is a digital ruin by now, he was connecting about 1.000 HP fan communities and gave especially those from more remote countries a better access to the core of the fandom! I have checked the visitors counter and the site still gets about 500 visits per day as a rule, even though there haven’t been any updates for ages. That does not seem like the site was never important.

The DA was definitely "a bit" more than a HP fan-site. It was a union of 57 fan communities from all continents. Members were for instance some huge sites from Brazil, India (e.g. LunaFans), Iraq (e.g. HP-fan.ir or Dementor.ir) or Indonesia (e.g. Muggle-V). And naturally a lot of fan sites from Europe, usually the most noteworthy one of a country (like Slovenia (Harry Potter Slovenia), Italy (Lumos.it), Serbia (HP Serbia.com), The Netherlands (Wizardzone.nl), etc. and naturally, many big HP actor communities, which were HP fan sites back then too. US members were Magical Menagerie, Love Unchained or BooksandWands.com for instance. So the DA made communities from Europe, the US, South America and even Asia communicate and work together.

Talking about CoaHPF, it is not about “being a fan” but about how meaningful fandom can be for the individual. There’s a little difference in these two things if you ask me.

Thomas is an Austrian author and his novels are written in German, so for understandable reasons there might be not many sources about him in the US. Searching him on Google in Germany gives a very different result however. You will find things like his website, fb, twitter, and CoaHPF as well as many articles like the following examples long before the link to the HP wiki.
http://www.burgenlandkultur.at/kuenstler/db/705

http://www.motor-talk.de/news/mehr-als-ein-haufen-altmetall-t5461847.html

http://www.tips.at/news/antau/kultur/337870-thomas-sailer-liest-bei-den-kunsttagen-antau

I ask you to take all this into account before deciding to delete this article.

Gisela T. (talk) 18:24, January 7, 2017 (UTC)


I would agree that there is no need to delete this. Seems like a noteworthy piece of fandom history. --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:31, January 7, 2017 (UTC)
Agreed. I think it's easy to lose sight of the fact that fandom extends beyond the English-speaking world. Part of our mission, as it were, is to document Harry Potter as a cultural phenomenon. That should include documenting the history of Harry Potter fandom outside of the English-speaking world. However, most of our editors are probably from Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the U.K., and the U.S. This means they are less likely to be aware of HP fandom as it exists in Asia, continental Europe, South America, etc., which in turn makes documenting HP fandom in those parts of the globe more difficult. Articles documenting the Potter phenomenon as it has manifested outside of the Anglosphere are especially valuable to us because they allow English-only readers to see beyond their scope of experience. Broadening horizons and all that. I definitely think this article is valuable and should be kept, although citation could be improved. Starstuff (Owl me!) 02:40, January 18, 2017 (UTC)
I definitely agree that this article should be kept. As far as I remember Knightbus.org was the only directory of Harry Potter website links that got widely known and listed all noteworthy fan sites from everywhere. The DA was for sure the biggest worldwide operating organisation of fansites that was based in continental Europe. Both things were founded by Thomas Sailer. I'd say that is part of fandom history and definitely worth an article on the wiki.
Scarlet Ho. (talk) 17:23, January 30, 2017 (UTC)
Since three of you seem to share my point while nobody has argued in support of deletion yet, shall I remove the delete tag from the article?
Gisela T. (talk) 16:18, February 8, 2017 (UTC)
I think this discussion has proven that the article is valuable and should be kept. I assume it is okay to remove the delete tag now. Scarlet Ho. (talk) 12:05, March 2, 2017 (UTC)
Okay. I removed the delete tag now. Gisela T. (talk) 19:24, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

Letter bomb

Wherever this page is linked to, replace that link by a link to wikipedia:Letter bomb. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:39, January 10, 2017 (UTC)

I agree. Apart from one minor black joke at the very beginning of the canon, this has no relevance to the HP universe. I reverted the recent deletion nomination because it was done in a way that amounted to vandalism (blanking the page), not because I disagreed with it. — RobertATfm (talk) 15:19, January 10, 2017 (UTC)
As noted, the page is not even a current a candidate for deletion; however, just in case, I would disagree with its deletion as it is a referenced mention from a canon source. Given banana, or sernik, or many other articles on little details from the series, I don't see why this one should be removed. What again is the argument against articles on minor details like these? --Ironyak1 (talk) 18:07, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
I agree with Ironyak1, this page should stay. Zane T 69 (talk) 19:31, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
Against deletion, per Ironyak's comment above. --  Seth Cooper  owl post! 13:33, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
  • Unless there is a special magical version of a letter bomb, why not redirect to the Wikipedia article? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:45, January 17, 2017 (UTC)
There is no provision under our notability guidelines that would allow for the deletion of this article as trivial/non-notable. Basically, it's fine to have articles on things that are mentioned in passing in the Potter books, or appear only briefly or as background props in the Potter films. The point, of course, is to cover these passing mentions/appearances of real things within the context of the Harry Potter universe. The Wikipedia articles on bananas and letter bombs will give you basic facts about both of those things, but they won't tell you about the role, however trivial, that either of these things play in Potter canon.
Not to mention the fact that articles on trivial subjects are often useful for delivering behind-the-scenes information which wouldn't fit elsewhere. Weasley family's coffee table has some info on the maker and ownership history of the real table featured in the films. Starstuff (Owl me!) 06:36, January 17, 2017 (UTC)

Harry Potter Is Life

  • This sort of appeal for help is to be sympathized with; but this is not what articles should be written about. But, as is said on Wikipedia, "don't bite the newbies". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:34, January 17, 2017 (UTC)
  • No one is "biting the newbies", two users offered help one of which was myself. Zane T 69 (talk) 22:38, January 17, 2017 (UTC)

Articles on horse and cat variants

I know that most articles of these have existed for months, but I think that articles on the horse Patronuses on Pottermore should all be redirected to horse.

We don't have articles on individual genders, just one for each species. I remember that we also merged bull and cow, which is also the same animal, but male and female.

We also could merge the pony and drafthorse articles I created myself

The same applies for the different colours. Having a different coat colour doesn't make them a different species.

The only exceptions I think are various breeds, for example the winged horse breeds.--Rodolphus (talk) 08:31, February 7, 2017 (UTC)

Uuh

Speediest possible delete, for 's sakes. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:25, February 22, 2017 (UTC)

Whoever deleted the above page forgot to also delete the associated talk page (which is in identical vein), and surely the vandal should be blocked, for at least a month? — RobertATfm (talk) 07:05, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

Human hair

The appearance section is so ridiculously long that it can only be based on every single time that human hair appears or is mentioned, which, given that baldness is an exceptional trait, applies to pretty much every character. Starstuff (Owl me!) 04:40, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

That's right. We also have articles on other kinds of hair and its magical uses though. Cat hair, Veela hair, Puffskein hair which alsi etail on the tole of hair in magic. Shouldn't we delete them all then?--Rodolphus (talk) 08:17, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

We could shrink the appearance section down to only include the appearances involving hair-related magic.--Rodolphus (talk) 08:37, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

The difference is that Veela hair etc. are only referenced within canon in a magical context. Thus, information on them is relevant to the plot or world of the Potter series, not merely incidental trivia. Human hair is visible in every scene in the films featuring a person, and implicitly present in every scene in the books if it's not directly mentioned, so it's incidental in the same way as eyes, skin, air, and sunlight.
The article, as it stands, is in dire need of clean-up. The appearances section needs to be streamlined along the lines you've suggested, because the current indiscriminate laundry list, at best, is unhelpful and cluttering, and, at worst, is inviting crufty or trolling additions to the article.
There also needs to be a structure. A bunch of single-sentence paragraphs is messy and unhelpful. There should probably be a section on the use of human hair in potions, a section on spells and magical products used to style hair, etc. Maybe a section of listing characters by hair colour, which, yes, is trivial, but it would also be useful (from a HP fan perspective) and interesting in the same way as the list of characters who wear spectacles or characters by zodiac signs are. Starstuff (Owl me!) 09:21, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

I agree with you on all off these points. Sorry for my bad English. Maybe someone could help structure it?--Rodolphus (talk) 09:35, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

It's okay. There's always plenty of tasks to do on a wiki if creating articles isn't one's strong point. For now trimming down the "Appearances" section is probably a good place to start. I might give fleshing out the article a go at some point, but unfortunately my backlog for this site is huge, and I don't have as much free time as I once did. Starstuff (Owl me!) 09:40, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Person infobox

Blatant spam created a few hours ago, and masquerading as an infobox (a real infobox would of course be in the Template namespace). Delete with all alacrity, and possibly ban User:Drasimura1 who created it. — RobertATfm (talk) 09:27, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Credence Barebone's Belt

No more notable than his shoes or hat. - Xanderen signature 10:02, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

While I would disagree that it is as un-noteworthy as his shoes given its role in contributing to his obscurial condition, as well as a captioned picture in The Case of Beasts: Explore the Film Wizardry of Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, I really don't have to as there are no real notability requirements for details like this - see Hermione Granger's pencil case as one of many examples. Cheers --Ironyak1 (talk) 16:43, March 22, 2017 (UTC)
The article certainly needs copy-editing, for grammar and spelling (e.g. "thorn" for "torn"). — RobertATfm (talk) 17:11, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

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